Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Collaboration with People using MS Office

2013-10-10 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Joel,

Joel Madero wrote (22-08-13 19:01)


I'm trying to figure out if we already knew/know that it's virtually
impossible to collaborate with MS Office users if you're using Writer
with images/tables? I will report a bug if needed but I can't imagine
this not already known and I just now am facing it.



Apart from the advises from the others, I think that - in the current 
state of the project - it might be useful to ask devs that do a lot on 
interoperability, such as miklos, kendy, mstahl, ... if it makes sense 
to focus on a particular area. Reason: there are lot's of issues on all 
kind of iterop issues, and maybe pulling issues in the same funcional 
area together is useful for them to support the work.


Cheers,

Cor

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Collaboration with People using MS Office

2013-08-22 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure
Hi Joel,

Le 22/08/2013 19:01, Joel Madero a écrit :
> Hi All,
> 
> I'm trying to figure out if we already knew/know that it's virtually
> impossible to collaborate with MS Office users if you're using Writer
> with images/tables? 

Ah ? I did not know it was impossible so I do that since years with odt
<-> doc formats. ;-)
I agree that it is more complicated with docx format.

I will report a bug if needed but I can't imagine
> this not already known and I just now am facing it.
> 
> If I save a document with 4.0.4.2 as doc or docx that has images and/or
> a table, then send it to someone using MS Office and they edit the
> document and save it, all images are lost as well as the table.

Not to understand well. When images and table has been lost? If it is
after MSO users saved the file the problem is probably in MSO.

Which anchor did you use for the pictures?

Which MSO version was used?


Best regards.
JBF

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Collaboration with People using MS Office

2013-08-22 Thread Pedro
Hi Joel


jmadero wrote
> I'm trying to figure out if we already knew/know that it's virtually 
> impossible to collaborate with MS Office users if you're using Writer 
> with images/tables? I will report a bug if needed but I can't imagine 
> this not already known and I just now am facing it.

Any document other than plain text can not be sent back and forward because
LO still doesn't handle doc/docx that well and MS refuses to handle odf
properly (it would be bad for business ;) )

I believe this is a know fact and the main reason why people prefer to pay
(or hack) MS Office rather than use a free suite like LO / AOO...

The only common language is PDF (which unfortunately is not an editable
format...)

But I do hope that TDF/Apache manage to get a perfect compatibility with doc
(probably not docx since it's a "moving target") in the future ;)

Maybe reporting "ad nauseam" all the little quirks found helps get there
faster :)

Cheers,
Pedro



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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Collaboration with People using MS Office

2013-08-22 Thread Florian Reisinger
Hi Joel,

Please send the files to me as well
And: doc should work okay, but docx IMHO ia still a pain in the neck (Word 
until 2003 created and all versions, which read doc, works. Doc files created 
by 2007 could be a problem, because MS might save some bits for "new versions 
only" in the doc, but I hope they don't. Docx is a pain, because MS didn't 
implement their standard as the "standard way to safe such files". There is a 
read only support for 2010+ and, not as default IMHO, saving in 2013+)

Hope that information helps 

Liebe Grüße, / Yours,
Florian Reisinger

Am 22.08.2013 um 19:01 schrieb Joel Madero :

> Hi All,
> 
> I'm trying to figure out if we already knew/know that it's virtually 
> impossible to collaborate with MS Office users if you're using Writer with 
> images/tables? I will report a bug if needed but I can't imagine this not 
> already known and I just now am facing it.
> 
> If I save a document with 4.0.4.2 as doc or docx that has images and/or a 
> table, then send it to someone using MS Office and they edit the document and 
> save it, all images are lost as well as the table.
> 
> Perhaps fixed in 4.1 - but wanted to get the conversation started.
> 
> 
> Best,
> Joel
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[Libreoffice-qa] Collaboration with People using MS Office

2013-08-22 Thread Joel Madero

Hi All,

I'm trying to figure out if we already knew/know that it's virtually 
impossible to collaborate with MS Office users if you're using Writer 
with images/tables? I will report a bug if needed but I can't imagine 
this not already known and I just now am facing it.


If I save a document with 4.0.4.2 as doc or docx that has images and/or 
a table, then send it to someone using MS Office and they edit the 
document and save it, all images are lost as well as the table.


Perhaps fixed in 4.1 - but wanted to get the conversation started.


Best,
Joel
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