Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Consistent Time for Meetings
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, So we need to set an official, every two week (or maybe 3?) time for our meetings...I say we set it in stone, we either meet that day or we cancel the meeting (no more moving it around, I think it gives a bad message, leads to discouragement for members that were planning on joining but then time is moved, plus just is unprofessional in general). +1 Robinson made a great point that this does not exclude special meetings... special meetings should be for an individual item that needs additional discussion. Speaking of which...we might schedule a special meeting soon to help sort out the BugReport/documentation pages..but I digress :-) So again, I'm happy to stick with 1300 UTC/GMT if it's best for everyone, if others are open to alternative times here is what I prefer. M/T/W/F - 1400 UTC/GMT (one hour later than currently set) M-F - 1900 - 2000 (start time between this period) My hours are pretty flexible right now, but if I do return to a 9-5 schedule, the 13:00 or 14:00 UTC time slot would be very convenient. If we decide on something later in the day like 19:00 or 20:00 UTC, I'd prefer Mon-Thu so as to leave my weekend options open :-) Thanks, --R ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Consistent Time for Meetings
Joel Madero píše v St 10. 04. 2013 v 16:42 -0700: Hi All, So we need to set an official, every two week (or maybe 3?) I would keep the two weeks. It we use 3 weeks and cancel one, it would mean 1.5 month without a meeting :-) An important part of the meeting should be making conclusion when there is a long discussion on the mailing list with an unclear result. Another important thing is discussing state of different tasks. Even the 2 weeks between meeting might break the useful dynamic in some cases :-) So again, I'm happy to stick with 1300 UTC/GMT if it's best for everyone, if others are open to alternative times here is what I prefer. M/T/W/F - 1400 UTC/GMT (one hour later than currently set) M-F - 1900 - 2000 (start time between this period) I am fine with all the proposed times. I wonder if a new time would allow other people to joining the call. It would be great to discuss things with Rainer, Pedro, Alexander, and other active people. Best Regards, Petr ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Consistent Time for Meetings
Le 11/04/13 01:42, Joel Madero a écrit : Hi Joel, all, So again, I'm happy to stick with 1300 UTC/GMT if it's best for everyone, if others are open to alternative times here is what I prefer. M/T/W/F - 1400 UTC/GMT (one hour later than currently set) M-F - 1900 - 2000 (start time between this period) I don't feel it is really my place to comment here, since I've never yet attended a QA meeting, but since Petr put me on copy ;-) and I follow the QA list from time to time, I'll chime in just with regard to how this would pan out for me. Unfortunately, none of these times are any good for me personally as they are the times at which my clients tend to ring me the most often :-)) I do understand, however, that finding a suitable time for everyone is not easy, so from my point of view, just go with whatever consensus you can find. If I'm available, I'll try and join in, if not, then not, as per the status quo :-)) Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Consistent Time for Meetings
Hi Petr, all Petr Mladek wrote I wonder if a new time would allow other people to joining the call. It would be great to discuss things with Rainer, Pedro, Alexander, and other active people. As I said to Joel, I don't consider myself part of the QA team. I'm just someone who sometimes contributes to this project. Since many of my contributions don't even deserve an answer (even a f* off would be nicer than being ignored), I don't see any reason for my level of commitment to increase. Thank you for the invitation, though ;) Good luck with QA work. This project really needs it (IMO it should be more *sincerely* appreciated and valued ;) ) Kind regards, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-Consistent-Time-for-Meetings-tp4049178p4049280.html Sent from the QA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Consistent Time for Meetings
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 6:37 AM, Pedro pedl...@gmail.com wrote: As I said to Joel, I don't consider myself part of the QA team. I'm just someone who sometimes contributes to this project. Since many of my contributions don't even deserve an answer (even a f* off would be nicer than being ignored), I don't see any reason for my level of commitment to increase. If swearing at you will increase your participation, then I'm sure we can @!#$*## arrange that, but I'm pretty certain that we can find more constructive things to tell you :-) IMHO working in a project like LibreOffice requires both diplomacy and drive. The drive will keep you motivated and focused, and the diplomacy comes in handy when you step on (or drive over?) someone's toes by accident :-) Thank you for the invitation, though ;) Good luck with QA work. This project really needs it (IMO it should be more *sincerely* appreciated and valued ;) ) True, true. I think the QA Team strives to provide some of that support and appreciation to its own members (as well as to those who don't consider themselves members yet). External appreciation/recognition would be nice, but having the respect of my direct peers is most important to me. Cheers, --R ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Consistent Time for Meetings
Hi All, So we need to set an official, every two week (or maybe 3?) time for our meetings. Mostly this has been at 1300 GMT/UTC (before 1400 GMT/UTC) on every other Friday. This time is *slightly* inconvenient for me (quite early) but if it's the easiest on everyone else I say we set it in stone, we either meet that day or we cancel the meeting (no more moving it around, I think it gives a bad message, leads to discouragement for members that were planning on joining but then time is moved, plus just is unprofessional in general). Robinson made a great point that this *does not* exclude special meetings, it just means we'll have regular scheduled meetings which can be canceled if needed. The main agenda should be taken care of on regularly scheduled meetings, special meetings should be for an individual item that needs additional discussion. So again, I'm happy to stick with 1300 UTC/GMT if it's best for everyone, if others are open to alternative times here is what I prefer. M/T/W/F - 1400 UTC/GMT (one hour later than currently set) M-F - 1900 - 2000 (start time between this period) Remember on the half hour is fine also in that range. I really am hoping to get a time that we can all usually make. If this means Friday at 1300, so be it, we'll set the time and be done with it. Please respond in the next day or two so that we can get this officially announced, and set the next agenda time. Thanks all, sorry again that I missed todays meeting. Best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
