Re: [Libreoffice-qa] DLP Projects as products?
On 13.02.2015 02:02, Robinson Tryon wrote: (I made the words BIGGER) https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/enter_bug.cgi nice :) The only I'd change is the wording of the titles: - The projects you are looking for: + The projects you are probably looking for: - These are not the projects you are looking for: + There are also several other projects hosted here: Regards, Nino ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] DLP Projects as products?
Hi, On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 04:52:45PM +0100, David Tardon wrote: I do not even quite understand what you mean by it. To merge all the libraries into one? Or to always release everything whether there has been any change or not? The latter would be a starting point. You will hardly get a article about a new version of libmwaw or libcdr on their own. Not TDF does do any press release about individual library releases. You see however e.g. LibreOffice, GNOME, KDE, Java releasing stuff as a set and thus gaining enough critical mass for some media coverage -- even for functionality that is not always directly related. Anyway: As said, not a QA-topic, so not really for this list. Best, Bjoern ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] DLP Projects as products?
Hi, On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 02:06:30PM -0800, Joel Madero wrote: On 02/09/2015 08:59 AM, Florian Reisinger wrote: Hi, I guess I did miss something... I thought, that the projects of DLP are added as Components of the DLP. The LibreOffice option is so well hidden in the list of products +1. I made a redmine issue about this...I really think it's looking not user friendly at this point. I disagree. The libraries are separate projects, not components of a single project. Also, an user reporting a bug for one of the libraries might not even know about DLP. So hiding the libraries under DLP label would not be user friendly. D. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] DLP Projects as products?
Hi, On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 01:46:24PM +0100, David Tardon wrote: I disagree. The libraries are separate projects, not components of a single project. Also, an user reporting a bug for one of the libraries might not even know about DLP. So hiding the libraries under DLP label would not be user friendly. True from a technical point of view. But being the devils advocate here: Maybe DLP should consider syncing these separate projects and release them as a consistent collection. If anything, LibreOffice (and in a different realm: systemd) has shown this to have significant marketing, branding and release engineering advantages. This really doesnt belong here, its hardly a QA topic. But maybe DLP projects should at least consider the thought. Justsaying. Best, Bjoern ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] DLP Projects as products?
Hi, On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 02:17:10PM +0100, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: Hi, On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 01:46:24PM +0100, David Tardon wrote: I disagree. The libraries are separate projects, not components of a single project. Also, an user reporting a bug for one of the libraries might not even know about DLP. So hiding the libraries under DLP label would not be user friendly. True from a technical point of view. But being the devils advocate here: Maybe DLP should consider syncing these separate projects and release them as a consistent collection. I do not even quite understand what you mean by it. To merge all the libraries into one? Or to always release everything whether there has been any change or not? I do not see any advantage in doing that. All I can see are disadvantages. We do not want one library to rule them all, with 42 MB tarball and dozens of dependencies. We want small, independent libraries, that other projects can use as they need them. There is currently _one_ project that uses _all_ DLP libraries and that is LibreOffice. Every other project uses just a few of them. If anything, LibreOffice (and in a different realm: systemd) has shown this to have significant marketing, branding and release engineering advantages. How would it help with any of that? I would still have to do the same pre-release work and there would be the same online announcement. Only it would not be for a single library but for a consistent collection. D. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] DLP Projects as products?
Hi, On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 02:06:30PM -0800, Joel Madero wrote: On 02/09/2015 08:59 AM, Florian Reisinger wrote: Hi, I guess I did miss something... I thought, that the projects of DLP are added as Components of the DLP. The LibreOffice option is so well hidden in the list of products +1. I made a redmine issue about this...I really think it's looking not user friendly at this point. Btw, why is this suddenly a problem? There were dozens of products in FreeDesktop bugzilla... D. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] DLP Projects as products?
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 7:57 AM, David Tardon dtar...@redhat.com wrote: Btw, why is this suddenly a problem? There were dozens of products in FreeDesktop bugzilla... I think people want to make it easier for newbies who, generally speaking, only want to file a bug against LibreOffice. The issue I see is that we have other user-friendly products like the Impress Remote, and I can imagine that we may have more such products in the future. I think that perhaps this is a question for the Design Team to help address. We have full control of the Bugzilla code, so we can always play around with the first page that people see. Example: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/describecomponents.cgi --R -- Robinson Tryon QA Engineer - The Document Foundation LibreOffice Community Outreach Herald qu...@libreoffice.org ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] DLP Projects as products?
On 02/09/2015 08:59 AM, Florian Reisinger wrote: Hi, I guess I did miss something... I thought, that the projects of DLP are added as Components of the DLP. The LibreOffice option is so well hidden in the list of products +1. I made a redmine issue about this...I really think it's looking not user friendly at this point. Best, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
