Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Disquieting Writer bug report -- has anybody ever faced such problems?

2012-08-24 Thread Roman Eisele

Hello all,
especially Caolán, Jochen, Rainer, and Nino (in order of appearance),

thank you very much for your suggestions and ideas for how to handle 
this special Writer bug report!


I can’t fulfill all your suggestions at once, but I will try to do my 
best and write a polite answer to our angry bug reporter and q 
class=doubtfuldeveloper/q.


Cross your fingers that he will not kill me by some voodoo magic, but 
that we will get something useful out of this issue, or at least close 
it without too many losses ;-)


Thank you again,

Roman
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Disquieting Writer bug report -- has anybody ever faced such problems?

2012-08-23 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Thu, 2012-08-23 at 13:13 +0200, Roman Eisele wrote:
 My question to all: has anybody ever seen such things in Writer? 

Nope.

 Have you got an idea how to fix the reporter's problems? IMHO he deserves a 
 good and very polite answer, but the most important thing is probably 
 the question how to help him.

Cause its so odd, maybe asking for a screencast of the problem might
help, e.g. Istanbul or recordMyDesktop or some such.

C.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Disquieting Writer bug report -- has anybody ever faced such problems?

2012-08-23 Thread Jochen

Hi Roman,

Am 23.08.2012 13:13, schrieb Roman Eisele:

but maybe you got an idea?


Normal procedure: answer to reporter poste file (attach) and set 
status NEEDINFO.


Then I will test the file.

Regards

Jochen

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Disquieting Writer bug report -- has anybody ever faced such problems?

2012-08-23 Thread Rainer Bielefeld

Roman Eisele schrieb:


today I stumbled over this Writer bug report:

   https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53898



Hi,

I am pretty sure that the reporter has some Autocorrect Options active 
that he does not understand. At least I think I would be able to creates 
settings showing those effects


Unfortunately (if he updated from an older version) we can not be sure 
that the problems have not been caused by something we gain in Bug 
43489 - [Task] Incorrect behavior using existing User Profile for 
upgrade  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43489


And IMHO the reporter is not the kind of developer what we mean when we 
use that word, but a xxx¹


Of course we can help him, although I prefer to help to get fixed bugs 
reported by more gentle people we should not leave that report without 
reaction.


Best regards


Rainer



¹ Censored!
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Disquieting Writer bug report -- has anybody ever faced such problems?

2012-08-23 Thread Nino Novak
Hi Roman,

Am 23.08.2012 13:13 schrieb Roman Eisele:

   https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53898

 Even if we ignore all of the reporter's (IMHO completely understandable) 
 anger,
 this bug report is disquieting.

At least it could deserve some sorting out what could be caused by bugs
(real/UX) and what are mere features ,-)

 My question to all: has anybody ever seen such things in Writer?

A little bit, yes. Especially when I'm tired and start to do something I never
did before. Some automatisms drove me crazy. But fortunately I've learned pretty
well to google for switching them off :-)


 Have you got an
 idea how to fix the reporter's problems? IMHO he deserves a good and very 
 polite
 answer, but the most important thing is probably the question how to help him.

It's in the first place a bug tracker, so helping him would be my second
thought. My first thought would be to get him to give us more information.

Therefore, my suggested answer is about:

It would be extremely informative and valueable to have you here and look at
what you are exactly doing.

Software sometimes thinks too much and default behavior can be
counter-intuitive and irritating.

On the other hand, there is rather active development at present and thus bugs
and regressions could have been introduced.

Therefore it would be very nice if you could give a step by step explanation
what you exactly intended to do, what you did, and what the
(intended/unintended) outcome was of every step. So we can address them one by
one. Thank you.

Regards,
Nino

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