Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2020-06-11

2020-06-15 Thread Thorsten Behrens 
Jan Holesovsky wrote:
> + build an ODF filter commit list + names, who need to file
>   their extensions in the wiki (Thorsten)
>
This is done - wiki and /bin/check-implementer-notes.py have
been updated, such that currently the list of missing notes is empty.

So - for virtually all of you, nothing to do. :)

For our TDF release engineers - if you could please run
bin/check-implementer-notes.py as part of every LibreOffice major
release (e.g. on the evening before final), and poke the dev list (or
the perpetrators) with the result?

That's hopefully good enough; I would assume that we don't change the
file format (and thusly the schema) during the lifetime of a stable
release.

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2020-06-11

2020-06-11 Thread Jan Holesovsky 
* Present:
+ Heiko, Gabriel, Caolán, Cloph, Ilmari, Kendy, Sophie, Stephan, Olivier,
  Eike, Michael S., Xisco, René, Thorsten

* Completed Action Items:
+ None

* Pending Action Items:
+ fix Jenkins_Callgrind at some stage (Cloph)
  [ must be an env var mismatch, custom LD_LIBRARY_PATH causes problems ]
+ build an ODF filter commit list + names, who need to file their extensions
  in the wiki (Thorsten)


* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 7.0 status
  + UI freeze & string freeze in the first week of July
  + decide this week: if a beta2 is needed (so far nobody asked for it)
+ In the end we will have beta2, due to langpack situation on Mac
  (tdf#133511)
+ not necessary to revert the whole work, there's an easy fix (Cloph)
  https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/94623 / 95563
  + there will be 3 RCs (Cloph)
+ 6.4 status
  + 6.4.5 RC1 released yesterday, uploading
  + RC2 in a week
+ Remotes
  + A new release due to release soon, f-droid too (Cloph)
+ Android viewer
+ Online
  + libreoffice-7-0 branch is created (Andras)

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ New Help
  + No news
+ Help content
  + Updates, fixes and new pages (buovjaga, ohallot, LibreOfficiant,
G. Kelemen, ..)
+ Google seasons of Doc
  + Tech writer application submission started (ends July 9th)
+ Guides
  + Released Draw Guide 6.4 (P.Schofield, C. Wood, Regina Henschel)

* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
243(243) (topicUI) bugs open, 262(262) (needsUXEval) needs to be
evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week   1 month3 months   12 months  
 added  8(-3)22(-9) 48(-39)171(-10)
 commented 95(24)   368(-18)   989(-16)   3504(18) 
   removed  0(0)  2(0)   7(-30) 46(0)  
  resolved 19(12)53(3) 134(8)  358(13) 
+ top 10 contributors:
  Heiko Tietze made 222 changes in 1 month, and 2030 changes in 1 year
  Telesto made 117 changes in 1 month, and 236 changes in 1 year
  Foote, V Stuart made 70 changes in 1 month, and 620 changes in 1 year
  Kainz, Andreas made 50 changes in 1 month, and 467 changes in 1 year
  Dieter Praas made 48 changes in 1 month, and 534 changes in 1 year
  BogdanB made 47 changes in 1 month, and 75 changes in 1 year
  Ilmari Lauhakangas made 24 changes in 1 month, and 133 changes in 1
  year
  Xisco Fauli made 22 changes in 1 month, and 568 changes in 1 year
  Eyal Rozenberg made 13 changes in 1 month, and 32 changes in 1 year
  Michel Le Bihan made 13 changes in 1 month, and 13 changes in 1 year

+ New tickets with needsUXEval Jun/04-Jun/11
  + 18 new tickets 
(https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?chfield=%5BBug%20creation%5D=7d=needsUXEval
 with keyword remaining)

+ Issue around new Gallery content
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133788 (l10n)
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133777 (present)
+ new content now at presets/gallery/ => move back to (readonly)
  share/gallery/ (sberg)
+ shipped content in user space would be overridden anyway (mikek)
+ better approach, eg. migration or as bundled extensions?
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57466 (user space)
+ proposal in c19 with renaming to *.old
  + similar to extensions (René)
+ some people have very old ones (René)
+ issue also for table styles (Heiko)
  + Is there a diffirent solution? Like migration? (Heiko)
+ How to solve it for galleries? (Heiko)
+ Ideas much appreciated (Heiko)
+ User shouldn't modify existing galleries, just add new ones (René)
=> Please check the issues above, ideas much appreciated (Heiko)
  + Suggest staying with non-editable gallery content for 7.0 (René,
Stephan)
  => let's do that, not enough time for 7.0 for larger changes
  + for later, we can ask the user (Heiko)
+ but the package installation cannot do anything in the user's
  dir (René)
  + bundled extensions are OK (René)
 
* Crash Testing (Caolan)
+ 7(-8) import failure, 9(+4) export failures
- mst fix #1 included above, and new build wih fix #2 underway
+ 1 coverity issues, but not getting updated
- coverity admin contacted wrt timeouts, limit maybe extended
+ 8 oss-fuzz issues (6 timeouts)

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.3.6.2
+ (+382) 1758 1376 858 668 529 283 0
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.2.2
+ (-377) 2354 2731 3033 3501 3702 4322 5765 6869 6527 8046 6988 3716 0
+