Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Esc Call Notes

2012-09-14 Thread Roman Eisele

Am 13.09.12 18:20, schrieb Joel Madero:

These are just a few of the things that pertained to QA



 5. MAB
 1. There really shouldn't be any put to 3.7 from what I understood


Well, if and only if a bug
* is NEW in the 3.7 daily builds (i.e., is not reproducible in 3.6) and
* is really annoying,
it _should_ be added to the LibreOffice 3.7 Most Annoying Bugs list:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54157

For details about our MAB procedure, please see

  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Most_Annoying_Bugs

Best regards,

  Roman

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Esc Call Notes

2012-09-14 Thread Mas
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote:

 These are just a few of the things that pertained to QA

1. Calc (3.6) crashing
   1.  bugs discussed, we need to go through the Unconfirmed and
   verify. The NEW ones are being looked at by the developers
2. HardHacks
   1. Previous email sent out, we need to finalize the process
   2. Developers have gone through the hard hacks, a continuous list
   is preferred (max of 5-7 bugs at a time, refilling these as they are 
 taken
   care of is best
   3. See previous email for suggestions
3. Triaging
   1. Begged for more help for back log ;), some interested but
   suggestion of bug hunting session. Time difference could be an issue, 
 can
   someone else in Europe try to arrange this? If it's over the weekend I 
 may
   be able to join, otherwise very hard
   2. There are 30ish students from Hungary (I believe?) doing
   development, asked for more EasyHacks to work on, I suggested that maybe
   they could help triage and maybe find their own EasyHacks (not sure what
   the result of this was)
4. EasyHacks
   1. Like above, need more EasyHacks marked, people are available to
   deal with them but there aren't enough out there
   2. My comment: I'm seeing things marked as EasyHack without the
   entire list of things that we usually should put for easy hack
   (particularly bt if possible, and some direction as to where to look in 
 the
   code)
5. MAB
   1. There really shouldn't be any put to 3.7 from what I understood
6. Resolved Status
   1. Only mark as Resolved if it's resolved in latest stable, not if
   it only works in latest master (a comment can be put in if it's working 
 on
   latest master)
   2. WORKSFORME unless you know for sure the bug was assigned and
   dealt with by a developer, in which case ask them to mark as RESOLVED -
   FIXED or mark it yourself (again only if you're sure that it wasn't just
   coincidentally fixed, or just works for you and you're not sure if the
   particular bug was dealt with)
7. Issues regarding rudeness on FDO
   1. Michael dealt with the one case, banning a user is probably more
   problematic than it's worth.
   2. Creating a wiki page (Joel) to kind of address this, something
   along the lines of What is not useful in reporting a bug

 I think that was about it, if I missed something, my apologies.


 Best Regards,
 Joel



I have a question about the old Bug ticket dating back to 2011. How long
should we keep a ticket open if we are requesting additional information on
the ticket. is it safe to resolved them to resolvedinvalid ?



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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Esc Call Notes

2012-09-14 Thread Andras Timar
2012/9/13 Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com:
 There are 30ish students from Hungary (I believe?) doing development, asked
 for more EasyHacks to work on, I suggested that maybe they could help triage
 and maybe find their own EasyHacks (not sure what the result of this was)

There have been 13 since last year (not 30). I've got 0-5 in one time,
currently I have 1, he is working on fdo#41737. I would love, if
students could find their own EasyHacks, but in most of the cases they
need guidance. They work on the project only for 6 weeks, and this is
very short. I was thinking of putting not-so-great coders on bug
triage, but I did not do that. They need to produce code in the first
place. When new students come, probably I'll do it a little bit
different, and have them work ~1 hour a day on bug triage. I think
that would make a difference.

Best regards,
Andras
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[Libreoffice-qa] Esc Call Notes

2012-09-13 Thread Joel Madero
These are just a few of the things that pertained to QA

   1. Calc (3.6) crashing
  1.  bugs discussed, we need to go through the Unconfirmed and verify.
  The NEW ones are being looked at by the developers
   2. HardHacks
  1. Previous email sent out, we need to finalize the process
  2. Developers have gone through the hard hacks, a continuous list is
  preferred (max of 5-7 bugs at a time, refilling these as they are taken
  care of is best
  3. See previous email for suggestions
   3. Triaging
  1. Begged for more help for back log ;), some interested but
  suggestion of bug hunting session. Time difference could be an issue, can
  someone else in Europe try to arrange this? If it's over the
weekend I may
  be able to join, otherwise very hard
  2. There are 30ish students from Hungary (I believe?) doing
  development, asked for more EasyHacks to work on, I suggested that maybe
  they could help triage and maybe find their own EasyHacks (not sure what
  the result of this was)
   4. EasyHacks
  1. Like above, need more EasyHacks marked, people are available to
  deal with them but there aren't enough out there
  2. My comment: I'm seeing things marked as EasyHack without the
  entire list of things that we usually should put for easy hack
  (particularly bt if possible, and some direction as to where to
look in the
  code)
   5. MAB
  1. There really shouldn't be any put to 3.7 from what I understood
   6. Resolved Status
  1. Only mark as Resolved if it's resolved in latest stable, not if it
  only works in latest master (a comment can be put in if it's working on
  latest master)
  2. WORKSFORME unless you know for sure the bug was assigned and dealt
  with by a developer, in which case ask them to mark as RESOLVED
- FIXED or
  mark it yourself (again only if you're sure that it wasn't just
  coincidentally fixed, or just works for you and you're not sure if the
  particular bug was dealt with)
   7. Issues regarding rudeness on FDO
  1. Michael dealt with the one case, banning a user is probably more
  problematic than it's worth.
  2. Creating a wiki page (Joel) to kind of address this, something
  along the lines of What is not useful in reporting a bug

I think that was about it, if I missed something, my apologies.


Best Regards,
Joel
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Esc Call Notes

2012-09-13 Thread Jack Leigh

Thanks Joel, nice job.

Currently finishing up my Masters project so don't have a lot of time 
but should be able to get involved for a blitz after Sept.

Maybe will try and get my 5 a day until then :P

Cheers,
Jack

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