Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Fwd: LibreOffice underline problem

2014-10-25 Thread Joel Madero

On 10/25/2014 02:01 AM, Nino Novak wrote:
> Hi Sooraj,
>
> Am 24.10.2014 um 11:01 schrieb sooraj kenoth:
>
>> While using the LibreOffice, I have some problems with the the
>> underline. In Malayalam we have a lot of stacked characters. In the
>> current way of drawing underline, it strikes the stacked letters. It
>> is annoying and it kills the legibility. Please find the screen-shot
>> here 
>>
>> I have reported the bug here. But they didn't accept. I don't know what to 
>> do.
>> 
> IMHO, here you are right and Joel is wrong: The described behavior is
> obviously unwanted and therefore clearly *is* a bug.
>
> Though in this case it might be better characterized as an "enhancement
> request" as seemingly nobody did think about a solution until now and
> therefore the requirement "make underlining independant from font" has not
> been considered yet. (At least this is what I am thinking when looking at
> the problem).
>
> So I would change it to "NEW" and "Enhancement Request" and you should try
> to "get it fixed". But be patient: probably a completely new underline
> functionality must be implemented, which looks like a rather complex task to
> me - but I'm not a dev, maybe there exist simpler solutions/workarounds.
Just for the record, I didn't say it's not a bug, I said we need to
figure out if it's our bug

Best,
Joel
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Fwd: LibreOffice underline problem

2014-10-25 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi,

sooraj kenoth schrieb:

Hi all,

While using the LibreOffice, I have some problems with the the
underline. In Malayalam we have a lot of stacked characters. In the
current way of drawing underline, it strikes the stacked letters. It
is annoying and it kills the legibility. Please find the screen-shot
here 


"Underline" goes through the descenders of some western characters too. 
Therefore "Underline" in this way is considered as bad typography. You 
should ban it totally.


I have reported the bug here. But they didn't accept. I don't know what to do.



There exist already a better solution. When you open the character 
formatting dialog, you will see a tab "borders". There you can draw a 
bottom border to the characters. If that does not work for your 
Malayalam characters, it would be worth a bug report.


Kind regards
Regina
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Fwd: LibreOffice underline problem

2014-10-25 Thread Nino Novak
Hi Sooraj,

Am 24.10.2014 um 11:01 schrieb sooraj kenoth:

> While using the LibreOffice, I have some problems with the the
> underline. In Malayalam we have a lot of stacked characters. In the
> current way of drawing underline, it strikes the stacked letters. It
> is annoying and it kills the legibility. Please find the screen-shot
> here 
> 
> I have reported the bug here. But they didn't accept. I don't know what to do.
> 

IMHO, here you are right and Joel is wrong: The described behavior is
obviously unwanted and therefore clearly *is* a bug.

Though in this case it might be better characterized as an "enhancement
request" as seemingly nobody did think about a solution until now and
therefore the requirement "make underlining independant from font" has not
been considered yet. (At least this is what I am thinking when looking at
the problem).

So I would change it to "NEW" and "Enhancement Request" and you should try
to "get it fixed". But be patient: probably a completely new underline
functionality must be implemented, which looks like a rather complex task to
me - but I'm not a dev, maybe there exist simpler solutions/workarounds.

my2ยข

Nino
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[Libreoffice-qa] Fwd: LibreOffice underline problem

2014-10-25 Thread sooraj kenoth
Hi all,

While using the LibreOffice, I have some problems with the the
underline. In Malayalam we have a lot of stacked characters. In the
current way of drawing underline, it strikes the stacked letters. It
is annoying and it kills the legibility. Please find the screen-shot
here 

I have reported the bug here. But they didn't accept. I don't know what to do.



Problem description.

Right now the underline is libreoffice is drawn by taking information
purely from gyphs. As result underline is not at all consistent or
uniform. Whenever there is change in font(Size, type, family, or
anything) the underline will change. Unfortunately now a days all most
all documents contains more than one language, hence it is not
possible to get a uniform underline.

In glyphs we can set some values to define the size and position of
underline. According to
Freetpye  it
is notional. The underline is a simple line which is drawn by the
application. I has nothing to do with glyphs. glyphs can give only
guidelines on how and where to draw the underline.

I am sure that this not a language specific issue. Please let know how
can I proceed with this problem.

--
Regards
Sooraj Kenoth
"I am Being the Change I Wish to See in the World"
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