[Libreoffice-qa] Keyword bisected

2015-01-05 Thread Joel Madero
Hi All,

I just found out that this keyword bisected is being used. I'm curious
who is using it and what it is identifying. Also, I'm curious if we
shouldn't move whatever it is being used for to the whiteboard - having
2 bisect things being in whiteboard, and then 1 in keyword seems strange
to me. We have bibisectRequest and bibisected in whiteboard, then we
have bisect in keyword.

A couple people have told me they use the keyword to indicate that the
exact (or nearly the exact) commit has been identified. If this is
true...it's good to have (and would be another potential easy hack to
move bibisected to bisected), but we need to share this information with
developers so that it's actually useful information. Else, if developers
are just querying for bibisected in whiteboard, they are going to miss
bisected in keyword


Best,
Joel
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Keyword bisected

2015-01-05 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 05/01/2015 17:23, Joel Madero a écrit :

I don't bibisect, much less bisect, so although have seen this in a few
bug reports, I haven't been inclined to use it ;-)

Alex

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Keyword bisected

2015-01-05 Thread Andras Timar
Hi Joel,

On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All,

 I just found out that this keyword bisected is being used. I'm curious
 who is using it and what it is identifying. Also, I'm curious if we
 shouldn't move whatever it is being used for to the whiteboard - having
 2 bisect things being in whiteboard, and then 1 in keyword seems strange
 to me. We have bibisectRequest and bibisected in whiteboard, then we
 have bisect in keyword.

 A couple people have told me they use the keyword to indicate that the
 exact (or nearly the exact) commit has been identified. If this is
 true...it's good to have (and would be another potential easy hack to
 move bibisected to bisected), but we need to share this information with
 developers so that it's actually useful information. Else, if developers
 are just querying for bibisected in whiteboard, they are going to miss
 bisected in keyword

I use the bisected keyword to indicate the *exact* commit that caused
the regression. For bibisected we use the whiteboard, because we
cannot add keywords on freedesktop, but in new TDF bugzilla instance
bibisected can be a keyword, too.

Regards,
Andras
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Keyword bisected

2015-01-05 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi,

On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 08:23:20AM -0800, Joel Madero wrote:
 A couple people have told me they use the keyword to indicate that the
 exact (or nearly the exact) commit has been identified. 

I use it like that.

 If this is true...it's good to have (and would be another potential easy hack
 to move bibisected to bisected), but we need to share this information with
 developers so that it's actually useful information. Else, if developers are
 just querying for bibisected in whiteboard, they are going to miss bisected
 in keyword

FWIW, I used it only on bibisected bugs, so at least where I set it, the bug is
whiteboard: bibisected keyword: bisected in the end, so that bisected bugs
are a subset of the bibisected bugs.

This was done when I did the other swipe over regressions etc. and was
discussed on the ESC:

 http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/minutes-of-ESC-call-td4127344.html

Back then, I looked for all the bibisected Writer regressions and identified
those that have a suspected single commit identified, because I wanted to have
an idea of how many bugs are triaged down to one commit. For Writer, it was
quite a huge set of the open bibisected regressions. This is a Good Thing as
shows that bibisecting works. This is a Bad Thing, as we likely should be
faster/more vicious in evaluating if the commit that caused the regression was
worth it (because it e.g. fixed a bigger problem). In some cases, it might make
sense to close the bug as WONTFIX, if there is no proper solution, and
reverting the guilty commit would bring back bigger issues.

Best,

Bjoern
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Keyword bisected

2015-01-05 Thread Joel Madero
Hi,
 Hi,

 On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 08:23:20AM -0800, Joel Madero wrote:
 A couple people have told me they use the keyword to indicate that the
 exact (or nearly the exact) commit has been identified. 
 I use it like that.
I don't think this is on the wiki - I'll try to add it.

 If this is true...it's good to have (and would be another potential easy hack
 to move bibisected to bisected), but we need to share this information with
 developers so that it's actually useful information. Else, if developers are
 just querying for bibisected in whiteboard, they are going to miss bisected
 in keyword
 FWIW, I used it only on bibisected bugs, so at least where I set it, the bug 
 is
 whiteboard: bibisected keyword: bisected in the end, so that bisected bugs
 are a subset of the bibisected bugs.
I added bibisected to the bisected bugs that did not have the whiteboard
status. There were 13 so not too bad.

Best,
Joel
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