Re: Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2023-Apr-24

2024-04-24 Thread Stéphane Guillou



On 25/4/24 09:06, Eyal Rozenberg wrote:

  * Make possible 2 or more impress in fullscreen each on a dedicated
    monitor AND each seekable independently with user-defined hotkeys
    per each file
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160242


First of all, I really think this bug report should have been split up
into several ones - and the issues were sort of mapped on the bug page:

A. run two presentations full-screen at same time (on two monitors)
B. Keyboard-navigate in two running full-screen presentation (i.e.
different shortcuts)
C. Same as B, but arbitrary number of presentations
D. Support per-presentation navigation shortcut choices, persisted in
the ODP file

Suggest breakup instead then INVALID (or MOVED) on this one. I would say

A - NEW
B - UNCONFIRMED (or LATER?)
C, D - WONTFIX


Thanks Eyal! Please go ahead and open a new report for A if you think 
that's the way to go. Let's hold off on B.


Cheers

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Re: Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2023-Apr-24

2024-04-24 Thread Eyal Rozenberg

Sorry for missing a meeting with a few of "my own" bug reports...


On 24/04/2024 21:58, Heiko Tietze wrote:

  * Want indication of whether a master slide is in use or not
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160403
    + MSO Powerpoints shows the number of slides in a tooltip (Stephane)
    + additional boolean indication would be nice (Eyal)
    + tooltip sounds good and is not harmful (John)
    + not much useful since "Delete Master" is only available if the
  slide master is not in use (Cor)


... but you only see that if you right-click the master. The boolean
indication suggestion would make you aware of this about all visible
masters at once. But I agree with the low priority.


    => no objection, low priority

  * When right-clicking a font family combo-box, offer font meta-data
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152487
    + unclear use case and much likely off-topic being available in
  font management tools (Heiko)


I will have to make the use case clearer on the bug page. Again, sorry
for not being around to make that case.



    + info dialog sounds good but rather via special characters or
  in the character properties dialog (Stuart)
    + only use case is compatibility with some other font (John)


That's an interesting use case, but not what I had in mind.



  + likely not part of the meta data
    + the Internet returns all search results (Cor)


The point is to help the user select an item on a list, while the list
is open - so that the user doesn't have to search for information
elsewhere (e.g. the Internet).

>     => idea does not find support; WF>

  * Make possible 2 or more impress in fullscreen each on a dedicated
    monitor AND each seekable independently with user-defined hotkeys
    per each file
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160242


First of all, I really think this bug report should have been split up
into several ones - and the issues were sort of mapped on the bug page:

A. run two presentations full-screen at same time (on two monitors)
B. Keyboard-navigate in two running full-screen presentation (i.e.
different shortcuts)
C. Same as B, but arbitrary number of presentations
D. Support per-presentation navigation shortcut choices, persisted in
the ODP file

>     + start Impress twice (Stephane)

When you start Impress twice you're still left with just the one
instance running. I guess you can force a second instance (with a
different profile folder perhaps?) but even then, IIANM, Impress is
"imperialistic" when in Full-Screen mode. Op claimed this doesn't work
right now.


workflow is supported with a third   monitor (John)


1. Is it? Can you elaborate on the bug page?
2. What about two monitors?

>     + too niche, better suited for an extension (Stephane, Sahil)

I partially disagree, considering the breakdown above:

A: Not so niche, in my opinion. Occasionally you want to show slides
from different presentations on different monitors - without having
combined them into a multi-monitor-targeting presentation (do we even
have that?). Happened to me already.

B: If Alt-Tab worked (which we can't know, since A is not possible yet),
then this would be kind of niche.

C, D: That's the niche part.


>     => WF

Disagree!

It looks like (some of) the ask changes app behavior rather than
enhancing it. The per-file shortcuts sounds like extension material to
me though.

Suggest breakup instead then INVALID (or MOVED) on this one. I would say

A - NEW
B - UNCONFIRMED (or LATER?)
C, D - WONTFIX



Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2023-Apr-24

2024-04-24 Thread Heiko Tietze

Present: Cor, Sahil, John, Ring, Heiko
Comments: Stephane, Eyal, Stuart

Tickets/Topics

 * Bullets and Numbering dialog in Writer does not say it's about an
   implicit list style
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160629
   + list styles created and applied via toolbar are hard to identify
 as such in the B dialog
   + no label substitutes the need to learn how this works; we may drop
 all shortcuts and ease functions but the cost is too high (Heiko, Cor)
   => suggest WF

 * Want indication of whether a master slide is in use or not
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160403
   + MSO Powerpoints shows the number of slides in a tooltip (Stephane)
   + additional boolean indication would be nice (Eyal)
   + tooltip sounds good and is not harmful (John)
   + not much useful since "Delete Master" is only available if the
 slide master is not in use (Cor)
   => no objection, low priority

 * When right-clicking a font family combo-box, offer font meta-data
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152487
   + unclear use case and much likely off-topic being available in
 font management tools (Heiko)
   + info dialog sounds good but rather via special characters or
 in the character properties dialog (Stuart)
   + only use case is compatibility with some other font (John)
 + likely not part of the meta data
   + the Internet returns all search results (Cor)
   => idea does not find support; WF

 * Make possible 2 or more impress in fullscreen each on a dedicated
   monitor AND each seekable independently with user-defined hotkeys
   per each file
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160242
   + start Impress twice (Stephane), workflow is supported with a third
 monitor (John)
   + too niche, better suited for an extension (Stephane, Sahil)
   => WF


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