Re: [Libreoffice-qa] REMINDER: Release 4.0.1.2 from libreoffice-4-0-1 branch
Hi Dan, first thanks a lot for testing LibreOffice release candidates. It is important job. Dan Lewis píše v Čt 21. 02. 2013 v 09:39 -0500: On 02/21/2013 09:16 AM, Petr Mladek wrote: IMPORTANT: There are not two weeks between rc1 and rc2 this time. It is another side effect of the late schedule change when we used two weeks between 4.0.0 betas and RCs. We were not able to shift the feature freeze and final release. This should be the last anomality. There should be always two weeks between all betas and rcs from now on, see https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan. Best Regards, Petr I read your first link, and the summary on that page is not psychologically sound. Study after study has shown that when people work on a deadline, they begin to work faster as they approach the deadline. (Staying up all night in college when a paper is due the next morning is one common example.) Now we do not have the time between RC1 and RC2 to properly test the latter for potential bugs. So, is it possible that we will have to fix some bugs for 4.0.2 because we did not have the time to test and find it in 4.0.1 RC1 or RC2? I am a bit confused. :-) In the first paragraph you suggest that most of the work is done the last night before the deadline. In the second paragraph, you suggest that one week is not enough. So, what change do you actually suggest? Will this be the last anomaly? I doubt that very much. Any time there are as many changes in LibreOffice between major versions, you are likely to have anomaly as we just did. Yes, there might be another anomality if we change the schedule again. Though, this is the last anomality caused by the last schedule rework. If I did not make a mistake, all the further 4.0.X, 4.1, 4.2 release have two weeks between betas and RCs. Beside, it appears that this schedule does not consider how many people are available in QA to test what the developers produce. None of us have unlimited time available for testing. If we are going to have a quality produce, we need the time to thoroughly test the software. Please put that in the schedule too. This is why we started to use two weeks between between betas and RCs. I am afraid that we could not do much more if we do not want to lose the effect of the frequent time based releases. We are not able to catch all regressions during testing. We could cover only the most important areas with the current resources. Each regression or bug is less painful when it can be fixed in the next bugfix release that is available only few weeks after the previous one. We currently use the following tricks to reduce potential regressions: 1. All commits for already released product are reviewed by another developer before pushing. It helps to find potential problems in time. Another side effect is that it is more expensive, so only important or trivial fixes pass this process = development in the stable branch is under control. 2. We create unit tests for many fixed bugs. They are proceed for every build. So, we are sue that these bugs never appear again in the future. 3. There is the testing done by the QA team. It is important but not much organized these days. I think that most people just install the last build and use it for daily tasks, verification of bugs, ... It is kind of random testing but it covers the basic areas out of box. IMHO, it would be great to have the result of manual testing a bit more organizes and documented. Then we could know be sure that something was really tested. Then we could have better arguments about what time is really necessary for testing. I am looking forward to have more people using http://manual-test.libreoffice.org. See also https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests Regarding 4.0.1 release. It is pity that there is only one weeks between rcs but there are still two weeks between rc1 and final publishing. All changes for 4.0.1.2 build need 3 reviewers, so we are very careful what goes in. There is really minimal chance of regressions between 4.0.1.1 and 4.0.1.2 builds. I hope that it looks more optimistic now. Best Regards, Petr ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...
On Thu, 2013-02-21 at 20:56 +0100, Michael Stahl wrote: On 21/02/13 17:00, Michael Meeks wrote: + full-word selection / editing ergonomics cf. UX-advise https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46517 + pending input from Caolan / Cedric / Michael S so i have finally looked at this bug and added a comment, which basically says meh. how the heck did this get on the ESC agenda? UX team asked for some input there :-) ATB, Michael. -- michael.me...@suse.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-users] Re: MySQL-Connector
Le 22/02/2013 14:02, Dan Lewis a écrit : Hmm, some strange things going on somewhere : -rw-rw-r-- 1 1000 1000 5379260 janv. 3 03:44 /home/alex/Development/libo/core/mysqlc/unxlngx6.pro/bin/mysql-connector-ooo.oxt -rw-rw-r-- 1 1000 1000 2575973 févr. 13 12:20 /home/alex/Development/libo/core/solver/unxlngx6.pro/bin/mysql-connector-ooo.oxt -rw-rw-r-- 1 1000 1000 2575973 févr. 13 12:20 /home/alex/Development/libo/core/workdir/unxlngx6.pro/ExtensionTarget/mysql-connector-ooo.oxt I have no idea why the /ExtensionTarget and /solver copies of the OXT are only half the size of the unxlngx6.pro/bin copy. Will post on dev list. Alex ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Looking for PyUno Contributor(s)
Several developers have told me that python and uno will be needed to extract the data from FDO, create a spreadsheet from this data and then create the graphs/summaries that I am hoping we can create automagically. If I'm incorrect, please let me know what is correct - but I'm pretty sure that someone with some PyUno skills will be needed. Best. Joel On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Stephan Bergmann sberg...@redhat.comwrote: On 02/20/2013 04:11 PM, Joel Madero wrote: I am one of the members of the Quality Assurance team with LibreOffice and we are looking for a volunteer to work with myself designing (and coding) the framework to start automating our stats. It's been on my list for much too long and I just don't have the technical know how to do it. If there are are users or developers who can slowly get this accomplished it would greatly help QA as well as Marketing as our stats are done almost completely manually at this point, not only is this time consuming but it's also likely that there could be mistakes or missing data. How is the above related to PyUno (i.e., the Python-UNO bridge)? Stephan -- *Joel Madero* LibreOffice QA Volunteer jmadero@gmail.com ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.1 RC1 available
Dear Community, The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the first release candidate of our upcoming LibreOffice 4.0.1. This will be the first in a series of frequent updates to our feature-packed 4.0 branch. Please be aware that LibreOffice 4.0.1 RC1 is not ready for production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.0.0 for that. The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA builds download page at http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/ Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla: https://bugs.freedesktop.org A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test - or checkout our manual test database for starting right away - http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/runtests/ With this release candidate, the Android Impress Remote should work on all platforms - if you would like to test, an updated Android package is available here: http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/sdremote-1.0.3/playstore/ImpressRemote.apk (and note https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Impress/RemoteHowTo) For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can e.g. contribute code: http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/ translate LibreOffice to your language: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide or help with funding our operations: http://donate.libreoffice.org/ A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.0.1 RC1 is available from our wiki: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.0.1/RC1 Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have been possible without your help. Yours, The Document Foundation Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-users] Re: MySQL-Connector
On 02/22/2013 08:24 AM, Alex Thurgood wrote: Le 22/02/2013 14:02, Dan Lewis a écrit : Hi Dan, Some very good news!!! ... and some questions. Last evening, I deleted the libo folder and basically began again using git. I let make run overnight. This morning, I accidentally ran make install getting an error message of not being able to create a folder in /usr/... . So, I used sudo make install instead. The build was installed in /usr/lib/... . So, being curious, I tried sudo make Hmm, you should've probably done a make dev-install instead of make install, as now, you've got a link to your dev build in your /usr/lib/, i.e. it will have overwritten any default LO installation that you already had, I think. The advantage of make dev-install is that it keeps everything in your LO development directory. install instead. The build was installed within the solver folder as it should be. I made ooenv executable and ran it. Since then I have run soffice and looked at Help About LibreOffice. I now have my own alpha build number! One further test: I ran Base in my new LO-DEV opening MySQL.odb which connects to my MySQL server. (This is a copy of the file I use to connect to MySQL. So, if it becomes corrupted, I still have the original database file.) I successfully connected to the MySQL server. Again because I was curious, I looked at the libreoffice configuration folder, specifically the extension folder. It contained buildid file which contained a number. I checked this number against the build number of my new Alpha version. They matched. It appears that I have created an alpha version of the MySQL native connector. So where is this connector in the extension folder? What is the next step to convert it into the .oxt final version? The connector itself isn't alpha anything, as the actual connector libary code doesn't change version much, and was only bumped to 1.0.2 last year with a change in the requirement for the version of libmysqlclient. As for its whereabouts, you should be able to find it here : /core/workdir/unxlngx6.pro/ExtensionTarget/mysql-connector-ooo.oxt and /core/solver/unxlngx6.pro/bin/mysql-connector-ooo.oxt and /core/mysqlc/unxlngx6.pro/bin/mysql-connector-ooo.oxt In my builds, it has a size of about 2Mb. This is because the connector links to libmysqlclient and libmysqlcppconn, whereas on the Mac, it is packaged altogether with these libraries (or at least it should be) leading to an OXT file that weighs in at about 4Mb. Alex What I have done: Created a folder for the files for the LO build: LO-Build. Added the AOO mysql-native-connector 1.0.1 to LO 4.0.0.3, and closed LO. Installed libmysqlclient18 and libmysqlcppconn5 Used git to download the master build. Ran autogen.sh --with-ext-mysql-connector --with-system-mysq Ran make dev-install Made ooenv executable and ran it. Ran soffice in the program folder of my new alpha build. But when I searched for mysql-connector on the command line (I ran sudo updatedb first). I found a folder named lu17qwu9.tmp_/mysql-connector-ooo-1.0.1-linux-intel.oxt. This is located at /home/dan/.config/libreoffice/4/user/uno_packages/cache/uno_packages/. I had earlier also installed the same mysql-native-connector on LO 3.6.5.2. If it matters, doing this search I found a similar folder in /home/dan/.config/libreoffice/4/user/uno_packages/cache/uno_packages/: luxhljqk.tmp_/mysql-connector-ooo-1.0.1-linux-intel.oxt/. So, the question is this: Where is the mysql-connector that was suppose to be built with LO? --Dan ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
