[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2020-10-08

2020-10-08 Thread Miklos Vajna 
* Present:
+ Heiko, Michael W, Thorsten, Caolan, Cloph, Stephan, Olivier, Miklos, 
Xisco, Michael S, Eike, Gabriel, Justin

* Completed Action Items:
+ None

* Pending Action Items:
+ None

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 7.0 status
   + 7.0.2: released as final earlier today
   + 7.0.3 rc1 is in 3 weeks
+ 6.4 status
   + 6.4.7: rc2 builds are in progress (last scheduled release)
+ 7.1 Release plan added to the wiki
  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/7.1
  + alpha1 week 43 (Oct 19)
  + beta1/7-1 branch: week 47 (Nov 16)
  + string/UI-freeze: week 51 (Dec 14)
  + later releases are a little more timed apart
+ moved 7.0.5 and 7.0.6 back one week to avoid overlap
+ shout/complain if that doesn’t fit
+ Remotes
+ Android viewer

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ New Help
   + HEADS UP!: please fill “extended tips” when you touch dialogs *.ui
   + use “extended_tip” as part of the string’s context attribute 
(convention, not requirement)
   + Extended tips are stored in “acessible-description” field in 
“acessibility” tab
   + Use Glade 3.36 minimum
   + 
https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2020-September/086008.html
+ a11y howto will be added to the wiki (Olivier)
+ help contents2
  + Updates and refactor by S. Chaiklin, T. Stewart, Johnny_M, gar Soul, 
ohallot
+ Google seasons of Doc
  + Wiki Calc help: on going
  + Advanced Calc E-Learning: On going
 + adjusting Moodle instance
+ Guides
+ progressing
+ New Authors coming for Guide update
+ Finished front and back covers for 7.0 versions.


* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
244(244) (topicUI) bugs open, 260(260) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week1 month   3 months   12 months
 added   7(-4)26(-7) 61(-5)170(-3)
 commented 114(5)430(26)   1050(1)3837(48)
   removed   0(-2) 5(-3)  8(-4) 55(-3)
  resolved  21(4) 71(13)125(10)425(12)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Heiko Tietze made 351 changes in 1 month, and 2246 changes in 1 year
  Telesto made 90 changes in 1 month, and 568 changes in 1 year
  Foote, V Stuart made 88 changes in 1 month, and 621 changes in 1 year
  BogdanB made 74 changes in 1 month, and 174 changes in 1 year
  Kainz, Andreas made 70 changes in 1 month, and 489 changes in 1 year
  Dieter Praas made 48 changes in 1 month, and 515 changes in 1 year
  Roman Kuznetsov made 44 changes in 1 month, and 276 changes in 1 year
  Thomas Lendo made 26 changes in 1 month, and 136 changes in 1 year
  Seth Chaiklin made 23 changes in 1 month, and 181 changes in 1 year
  Timur made 21 changes in 1 month, and 251 changes in 1 year

 * New tickets with needsUXEval Oct/02-Oct/08

   * Improve pivot table workflow and usage
 + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137321
   * Not possible to edit any fields inserted from Docinformation tab
 + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137298
-> * Table of Contents dialog is too large
 + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137269
   * Edit --> Fields... fails to highlight or otherwise indicate the current
 field while navigating forward and backward, making locating the field
 in question cumbersome and slow.
 + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137210
   + Add "Color Replacer" to Writer (currently it only exists in
 Draw/Impress)
 + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137214
   * there is no project container for combination of all LO-formats, odm is
 limited to writer
 + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137207
   => in discussion

   * Opening a PPS (File -> Open -> PPS) automatically starts the
 presentation (expected edit mode)
 + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137283
   => DUP

 * View > User Interface > submenu replaced by a dialog (first tip
   recommending to pick a UI executes this dialog)
   + resolves https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117463
   + UNO commands can be attached to tips now

* Crash testing (Caolan)
+ 7(+1) import failure, 0(-1) export failures
+ 0 coverity issues
+ 10 ossfuzz issues
  + all timeouts

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.5.2
+ (-94) 1510 1604 1618 1744 1814 2208 2552 2315 1761 1162 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.6.2
+ (+214) 1778 1564 1306 1053 874 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.0.0.3
+ (-185) 3767

[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2020-Oct-08

2020-10-08 Thread Heiko Tietze 
Present: Sascha, Rizal, Heiko
Comments: Stuart

Tickets/Topic

 * Show information when a range has been defined (applies to Sort, Filter...)
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132521
   + range is highlighted right now; issue not easy to reproduce (Sascha)
   + feedback doesn't hurt, however (Heiko)
   => if sorting happens in a range, it shall be shown in the sort dialog
 maybe just "Sorting will happen in the active range only"

 * Sidebar property deck string is to generic
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137078
   + No good alternative, no urgent need to change (Heiko)
   + Styles - no, Attributes - no benefit, Miscellaneous - misleading
 Document properties - duplicates existing information
   => WF

 * Add "Color Replacer" to Writer (currently it only exists in Draw/Impress)
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137214
   + this function is a perfect example for an extension (Sascha, Heiko)
   + making it accessible via customization is not detrimental to usability 
(Heiko)
   => accepted, perhaps easyhack

 * How should the a word be formatted when using autocorrection (if multiple
   formattings are applied)
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135909
   + keep current implementation, WF
   + picking the first letter for the format, as today, is expectable (Sascha)
   + any other character or keeping the complex formatting would be intrasparent
 with too many exceptions (and hard to implement)
   + the use case is way too much far-fetched (Sascha)
   => WF, rather INVALID

 * ENHANCEMENT: Add a lock to caption frame; so frame being image (as prevention
   for unintended changes within the frame)
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135884
   + frame style > frame/graphics has Protect: Position, Size;
 enable by default?
   + side note: the modified frame style is not applied correctly => bug
   + unclear use case (Sascha)
 + to avoid accidental moving images?
   + changing the default makes it hard for Benjamin-users to move images
   + typical use case is to insert graphic, position correctly and then
 block it, done by switching on the protection (eg per dedicated frame 
style)
   => WF



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