[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2020-Dec-03

[Heiko Tietze]

Present: Muhammet, Rizal, Heiko
Comments: MikeK, Stuart

Tickets/Topic

 * Added slide masters disappear from list after unassigning it from slides
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99539
   + keep master when no slide uses it?; it's just a click away in the Master
 Pages deck at Recently Used
   + why doesn't it show up in recently used? (Muhammet)
 + actually it's unreliable, sometimes applied masters are shown
   sometimes not
 + what's used in the current slide is not shown under recently
   + if "recently used" work we do not need it under "used in presentation"
   => comment

 * HTML conversion: fields always shaded
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137174
   + fields don't have a background color but are highlighted per code
   + there is no good reason to show the internal highlighting when
 opening the exported html in a browser (Heiko)
   + exporting to a file shouldn't affect the actual document; same happens
 in MSO
   + Export doesn't take the highlighting in LibreOffice but SaveAs
 does (Muhammet)
   => bug in the save filter

 * The value of “Paragraphs” does not count blank paragraphs. In the
   “Statistics” tab
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138434
   + counting number of characters doesn't take blanks into count,
 which makes sense
   + doing the same on paragraphs and ignoring empty is reasonable
   + option to show anyway or additional info somewhere?
 + comparing the number of filled and empty paragraphs is an indicator
   of proper use of styles (Heiko)
 + better give a feedback / confirmation box / just a label in the dialog
   with "you have empty paragraphs" (Muhammet)
   => add some information to the workflow

 * calc gives no visual clue about enter/edit cell mode
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63374
   + request to reconsider in c9
   + changing the background color in edit mode sounds like a plan,
 could be optional with automatic = none and any other color would be shown
 when in edit mode (Muhammet, Heiko)
   + Cursor should update immeidately
   => do it

 * Numbering List Presets in Bulgarian (4x), Russian (4x), Serbian (4x)
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128640
   + add Cyrillic to T>O>L (and hide until this option is checked like CTL/CJK)
 + strong objection since CTL/CJK make enough trouble, see
   tdf#104318 (MikeK)
 + not easy to find and error-prone (Muhammet)
   + add a "More" entry to the list that brings up further options in the
 dropdown similar to paragraph styles in the toolbar
 + sounds like a plan (Muhammet)
 + used choices could be added to the default list (Rizal)
   => let's do it


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[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2020-12-03

[Stephan Bergmann]

* Present:
+ Cloph, Michael M., Michael W., Caolan, Xisco, Heiko, Gabriel, 
Thorsten,

  Stephan, Olivier, Michael S, Eike

* Completed Action Items:
+ turn on --enable-sal-log for master tinderbox builds on Linux (Cloph)

* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 7.1 status
  + feature/UI freeze and rc1 in 2 weeks
+ 7.0 status
  + 7.0.4 rc2 next week
+ Remotes: Android, iOS
+ Android viewer

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ New Help
   + No news
+ helpcontent2
   + Updates and fixes (Libreofficiant, S. Chaiklin, A. Yalçinsoy, 
Johnny_M, M. Kagansky)

+ Google Seasons of Doc
  + Project ended, writing reports to Google
 + Wiki Calc Help pages:
   https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Calc_Functions
 + E-leaning on Advanced Calc
   https://corsi.libreitalia.org/course/view.php?id=2
   (Login as guest)
   + Will move later to TDF infra
   + start point provements in contents and scope
   + other e-learning contributions too
+ Guides
   + Business as usual


* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
240(240) (topicUI) bugs open, 252(252) (needsUXEval) needs to 
be evaluated by the UXteam

+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week1 month   3 months   12 months
 added 13(4)  27(7)  53(2) 167(6)
 commented 97(-12)   339(19)   1064(27)   3959(29)
   removed  1(1)   2(0)  10(0)  54(-1)
  resolved 10(-6) 51(0) 152(4) 464(3)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Heiko Tietze made 207 changes in 1 month, and 2344 changes in 
1 year
  Foote, V Stuart made 66 changes in 1 month, and 665 changes 
in 1 year
  Dieter Praas made 61 changes in 1 month, and 510 changes in 1 
year

  Telesto made 60 changes in 1 month, and 617 changes in 1 year
  Ilmari Lauhakangas made 49 changes in 1 month, and 260 
changes in 1

  Kevin Suo made 37 changes in 1 month, and 76 changes in 1 year
  Xisco Fauli made 23 changes in 1 month, and 444 changes in 1 year
  Ming Hua made 16 changes in 1 month, and 34 changes in 1 year
  Roman Kuznetsov made 15 changes in 1 month, and 259 changes 
in 1 year

  Cor Nouws made 13 changes in 1 month, and 114 changes in 1 year

+ New tickets with needsUXEval Nov/26-Dec-03
  + tdf#138628 - ClearDirectFormatting does not remove page break
  + tdf#138621 - three improvements in File > Templates and associated
.uno commands
  + tdf#138261 - TABLE: Cell border alignment is different for 
horizontal

 and vertical borders
  + tdf#138406 - Permanently setting heading numbering font fails
  + tdf#138585 - Language change not stored if not applied to character
  + tdf#138584 - Language change, because of replacing letter
  + tdf#135048 - Notebookbar Extension support with label
  + tdf#138539 - Start Center: make create new list more visible
  + tdf#138568 - Selecting a word includes anchor
  ->  + tdf#138542  - Make printjob a background process and replace 
they print

 dialog with an icon in status bar
 + developer input? Is this actually needed to let the user keep
   working?

  + tdf#138453 - TABLE STYLE: can't be turned off because there is no
 "OFF" option
  + tdf#63374  - calc gives no visual clue about enter/edit cell mode
  + tdf#138526 - Image missing for new Formats Only option
  + tdf#138533 - Use GtkSpinButton for .uno:FontHeight
  ->  + tdf#138506  - Retain modified style format (instead of using 
the default
 built-in style format) when copy cell range and 
paste as

 GDI format in Draw

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
+ 12(-50) import failure, 1(+0) export failures
  + all writer
+ 3 coverity issues
  + 1 fix in gerrit
  + 1 calc fix needing review 
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/107076

+ 12 ossfuzz issues, 10 timeouts, 2 oom

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.7.2
+ (+125) 1411 1286 944 803 568 343 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.0.2.2
+ (-191) 2218 2409 2750 3829 5339 5103 3457 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.0.3.1
+ (+202) 6410 6208 4932 3472 1732 0

* Mentoring/easyhack update
  committer...   1 week  1 month  3 months 12 
months
  open  49(-13) 113(-21) 118(-21) 
120(-21)
   reviews 376(-246)   1554(-114)   3954(-338) 
18050(-256)
merged 401(47) 1390(74) 4156(-58) 
18863(-92)
 abandoned  18(1)73(2)   243(5) 
1042(-4)
   own commits 243(-33)1059(-26)3215(-116) 
14863(-239)