[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 84350] Creation of a shapes drop down group button
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84350 --- Comment #16 from Owen Genat owen.ge...@gmail.com --- (In reply to Jay Philips from comment #12) (In reply to comment #8) Jay I think the problem you are going to have with this enhancement is that it will depend on changing a few other UX aspects. Can you elaborate on this. This was a general reference to the design plan for toolbars vs sidebar. Rather than elaborate here, I will do so in the Design forum as that would seem more appropriate. I have made a start in these two locations: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/boards/1/topics/218 https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/boards/1/topics/217?r=219#message-219 One of the primary goals of the single group button is to provide quick access to being able to add a single shape. We are talking different forms of quick access (latency) trade-off here. I will just summarise here both our points. The advantage of having a single always-displayed toolbar with group item, is that the initial click is low latency, but hunting for a specific item remains high(er) latency. By comparison the current toolbar has high initial latency (getting it displayed) and then low(er) latency while in use, as more recently used items are on display at once. Thus for inserting a single shape, the group button is more advantageous, but for constructing a drawing, a dedicated toolbar is often more advantageous. We seem to be in agreement about this and in honesty I do not hold a strong opinion, particular with respect to this toolbar in Writer, but I wanted to make these points clear. I doubt there is a need to dedicate an entire sidebar pane to inserting drawing objects and this enhancement is focused on toolbar users how wont be using the sidebar. I guess this depends, as I indicated above on the ultimate design strategy with respect to the toolbars and sidebar. This is similar to the recent change with regard to the Styles and Formatting toolbar. Can you elaborate on this. I meant that View Toolbar Drawing could be amended to expose a new Drawing deck in the sidebar (as Format Styles and Formatting now will, as per bug 73151). Of course this is speculative, and it may be View Toolbar Drawing will merely hide/reveal a launched toolbar, should this type of behaviour be pursued. Again, this is really a discussion better suited to the Design forum. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 81475] Meta: enhancing Writer's standard and formatting toolbars
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81475 Norbert X nrb...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||nrb...@gmail.com --- Comment #23 from Norbert X nrb...@gmail.com --- Let me add something about toolbars. I think this is a good place. I think that dynamic appearance/disappearance of toolbars is not a good idea. For me it is comfortable to place toolbars once and use them when I want to use them, not contextually (current object- or action- dependent). But now in 4.3.2 toolbars disappear even if they have Lock Toolbar Position option checked. Please enable static toolbar positions. Popping toolbars may cause attention switch and may lower document author's productivity. Otherwise you will create another stupid, ugly, non-usable Ribbon/MFI. I think that many LibreOffice users would be happy with MS Office 2003-like interface. Users do not need bells and whistles, they need comfortable and customizable interface. This interface should allow users to place and pin (lock) toolbars as they want and use keyboard shortcuts for more productivity (for example, the fastest way to add Cross-Reference is to press Alt-ie). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 80752] UX proposal, a relatively easy way to improve LibreOffice visual appearance (but not Ribbons)
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80752 --- Comment #10 from Ljiljan lili...@gmail.com --- My suggestion was not to remove current way of toolbar behavour, but rather to add possibilities for users to choose. You want flexibile toolbars - somewhere in options you should be able to select it. You want fixed toolbar, but changing accoring to context - you should be able to select this option. Current toolbar behaviour is annyoing (not completely, but at least 20% of my time). There is no way to disable some toolbars for appearing and changing their position (somehow you can change for current session). I would like to completely switch to sidebar, but some options are still missing there so combination of toolbar and sidebar is still required. I prefer minimalistic design. Only most important toolbars should be enabled. When I want to insert table, table toolbar popup but it usualy take some aditional place on my screen and it moves my text down. When I click somewhere else (outside table) it dissapears and move my text up. Then you move again to the table and toolbars appear and move your text up/ down. I agree that this problem would be fixed if I keep table toolbar on fixed position, but that means less space for real work (writing text and creating other content). I find this annoying, but I understand that some people want to have 25 toolbars open at the same time. But I don't. So creating this option would give both group of people what they want. Table toolbar is not the only problem. Navigation toolbar keeps pop-up-ing as well as some other toolbars. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 81475] Meta: enhancing Writer's standard and formatting toolbars
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81475 --- Comment #24 from Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com --- @Norbert - you can just enable the toolbar. I highly disagree that it should not be by default context specific. There are too many options to just have all the toolbars activated and in 3+ years on the project I've never heard anyone else suggest that we should do so. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
