[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 91824] view > sidebar menubar entry should include subitems

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91824

steve -_-  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|remove sidebar  |view > sidebar menubar
   |configuration icon and menu |entry should include
   |items to view > sidebar |subitems
   |menu entry  |

--- Comment #12 from steve -_-  ---
update on this

1. sidebar configuration icon should be removed → WONTFIX
(this is core important functionality to be extended in the future so it won't
go)

2. move items to view > sidebar submenu → NEW

adjusting title.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 91990] Start Center: adjust Help and Extension buttons to use same UI when hoovering mouse so UI experience is unified and consistent

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steve -_-  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|Start Center: convert Help  |Start Center: adjust Help
   |and Extension buttons   |and Extension buttons to
   ||use same UI when hoovering
   ||mouse so UI experience is
   ||unified and consistent

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 91990] Start Center: adjust Help and Extension buttons to use same UI when hoovering mouse so UI experience is unified and consistent (comment 12)

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91990

steve -_-  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|Start Center: adjust Help   |Start Center: adjust Help
   |and Extension buttons to|and Extension buttons to
   |use same UI when hoovering  |use same UI when hoovering
   |mouse so UI experience is   |mouse so UI experience is
   |unified and consistent  |unified and consistent
   ||(comment 12)

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 91824] extend view > sidebar menubar entry with subitems

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91824

steve -_-  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|view > sidebar menubar  |extend view > sidebar
   |entry should include|menubar entry with subitems
   |subitems|

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 91781] Reorganization of the menu bar for Writer

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91781

Yousuf (Jay) Philips  changed:

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 Depends on||95280

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 91990] StartCenter: adjust Help and Extension buttons to use same UI when hoovering mouse so UI experience is unified and consistent (comment 12)

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91990

--- Comment #15 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Created attachment 119943
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=119943=edit
The LibreOffice StartCenter as initially implemented by TDF

(In reply to steve -_- from comment #12)
> ... but I really don't understand why the UI we use to show those two
> options differs from the way the other selection options are shown. Let's
> unify that and show help and extension in the same way.

That would be incorrect as within our GUI we make, and have always made,
distinction in functional use. We identify, and graphically represent, Primary
actions as compared to Secondary actions within the GUI using icon/button size
and positional placement of elements.

Current handling in the GTKwidget .UI based StartCenter descends from our
legacy SO/OOo functional design of the StartCenter as can be seen in the screen
clip from the LO 3.3.0.4 release. There the indicated area holds secondary
action buttons to:
Get more templates
Add new features 
Get more information

Note the size of the icons and that their position is removed from the Primary
elements.

As the StartCenter was moved to .UI based GTK widget packing, while reworking
it we continued to distinguish a secondary role for the Help | Extensions
button widgets. Also, we don't assign a GtkImage for an icon--and instead just
label the buttons--maintaining their secondary role in the GUI.

Implementing Thumbnail Views from Template manager backingwindow as a way to
render a preview of the document in the StartCenter has provided a new Primary
action, but the functional GUI remains conceptually unchanged.  Other than
that--our handling of the StartCenter and its functional roles has evolved in a
consistent fashion--respectful of legacy design, despite being completely
refactored in code.

I understand your suggestion, but don't see it as necessary during usage to
"interpreting" the GUI.  If anything making the change suggested--bringing all
Start Center widget actions into the same vertical "button bar"  would be
confusing for users.

Re-sizing and adjusting the packing of the button widgets to place Help and
Extensions as equal in importance to the other Create buttons would give them
emphasis in usage they do not merit.

Yes, they are necessary to the completeness of the GUI, and so should not be
removed--but they are not functionally equivalent in importance to the other
GUI elements on the StartCenter.  Their diminutive size, lack of icon, and
positioning apart are appropriate to the UX.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 91990] Start Center: convert Help and Extension buttons

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91990

--- Comment #13 from steve -_-  ---
Created attachment 119942
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=119942=edit
screencast for suggestion

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 91990] StartCenter: adjust Help and Extension buttons to use same UI when hoovering mouse so UI experience is unified and consistent (comment 12)

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91990

steve -_-  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|Start Center: adjust Help   |StartCenter: adjust Help
   |and Extension buttons to|and Extension buttons to
   |use same UI when hoovering  |use same UI when hoovering
   |mouse so UI experience is   |mouse so UI experience is
   |unified and consistent  |unified and consistent
   |(comment 12)|(comment 12)

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 91990] StartCenter: adjust Help and Extension buttons to use same UI when hoovering mouse so UI experience is unified and consistent (comment 12)

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91990

--- Comment #14 from Yousuf (Jay) Philips  ---
With the new theming introduced in 5.0, this problem is solved for me on linux,
though from steve's screencast, it seems that the height of the buttons isnt
the same on osx as it is on linux.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 63075] Allow "hide extension" in the file save dialog

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63075

Yousuf (Jay) Philips  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||ipla...@yahoo.co.uk,
   ||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org,
   ||philip...@hotmail.com

--- Comment #5 from Yousuf (Jay) Philips  ---
Would be good to have screenshots of the entire Save As dialog with the 'hide
extension' enabled and disabled.

This likely would be an OSX specific enhancement from what i can guess.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 91990] Start Center: convert Help and Extension buttons

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91990

--- Comment #12 from steve -_-  ---
Trying to update: Help and extension don't have an icon so we'll stick to
buttons.

Fine, but I really don't understand why the UI we use to show those two options
differs from the way the other selection options are shown. Let's unify that
and show help and extension in the same way.

screencast attached to illustrate the suggestion.

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