[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 127066] UI: Font size in input line (formular bar) larger than in other UI elements

2019-08-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127066

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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--- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze  ---
How about an (expert) option here? 

The general approach would be something like Browsers offer where you can zoom
into the content. We could do the same for font size and maybe kind reintroduce
bug 101646 (UI scaling), which receives a lot of interest, but per control vs.
per application. Though, this sounds like an overkill to me.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 127066] UI: Font size in input line (formular bar) larger than in other UI elements

2019-08-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127066

--- Comment #2 from Mike Kaganski  ---
A transcript from #libreoffice IRC chat:

> Marqeaux has joined
> Marqeaux: Hi everybody. I want to ask a question about the formula bar in 
> Calc. The font size in the formula bar has been increased for better 
> readability. Is there a way to make the font size in the formula bar smaller 
> again, just like it was in previous versions of LibreOffice?
> Marqeaux: Oh, I'm using LibreOffice 6.3.0. I forgot to mention that piece of 
> information...
> quikee[m]: Marqeaux: interesting ... it's the same size for me
> Marqeaux: I got LibreOffice 6.3.0. on more machines installed. The formula 
> bar shows a bigger font (too big for my taste), and the formula bar is also 
> increased in height. It used to have the same height as the cell bar (where 
> you see in which cell you are)...
> Marqeaux: I prefer the situation like it was in LO 6.2. (the formula bar, I 
> mean...)
> Marqeaux: ;)
> mikekaganski: Marqeaux: I confirm font size increase in 6.3
> quikee[m]: maybe it manifests in windows. I was looking in Linux with gtk3 
> backend
> quikee[m]: we modified the scrollbars of the formula bar.. could be that has 
> influenced the size
> mikekaganski: quikee[m]: /me bisects
> Marqeaux: Is there a way in the expert configuration to alter the size of the 
> fonts in the formula bar, and also the height of the formula bar?
> quikee[m]: Marqeaux: no, I don't think so... increase is also not intentional 
> so it looks like you "found" a bug
> mikekaganski: Marqeaux: ... which needs a bug report
> mikekaganski: quikee[m]: 04b60370a73b79e3aa0a04bc7cff45dff1db6286
> Marqeaux: I made a screenshot of what I see (on multiple machines, not only 
> on Xubuntu): https://mupload.nl/img/edk3kknwn.png
> mikekaganski: Marqeaux: so it was intentional in the end: tdf#101443
> Marqeaux: I guess it's intentional, because more and more software follow the 
> GTK3 guidelines. I think it's awful, because GTK3 makes everything big and 
> bold, and with no borders. I looks like a "Fischer-Price" kinda of 
> approach
> mikekaganski: Marqeaux: it wasn't because of "GTK3" (and most LO users are on 
> Windows btw); it was because of the previous font was unreadable on some 
> macOS (not using GTK3 also)
> mikekaganski: Marqeaux: "In addition to inputline redesign, character size 
> has been increased to 120% of original size. This prevents very small / 
> unreadable inputline character sizes on some OS X resolutions"
> Marqeaux: Ah, alright. But anyway I takes up too much space now. It's 
> fine that the fonts in the formula bar are bigger, but I hope that there's a 
> way to make it "normal" again...
> mikekaganski: Marqeaux: the commit mentioned above has the min font size 
> fixed (16, strange size for UI actually). You may file an enhancement request 
> to make it user-configurable or smaller.
> Marqeaux: Yes, I also found it a very strange decission to make it that big. 
> It just doesn't fit into the GUI. I think it's better to make it 
> user-configurable, rather than to leave it "hard-coded". Although my eyes 
> aren't that good (I wear glasses and I'm middle aged), but I never had 
> trouble reading the formula bar as it was before.
> Marqeaux: Where can I file an enhancement request?
> mikekaganski: Marqeaux: I already wrote a comment there in the original bug. 
> I gave you the link to the bug, and that's the site where we write and track 
> reports.
> mikekaganski: Marqeaux: please file your request separately regardless of my 
> comment: it would help to provide arguments when needed. Please put the 
> mentioned bug to See Also in the new report. Thanks.
> Marqeaux: Thanks for the advice. I will report it, along with my arguments. 
> Thank you too! ;)
> Marqeaux has disconnected: Quit: Ik ben weg! Tot ziens allemaal!

I still think that it's easy to make a smll tweak - just to make this
little thingie a bit bigger... and then do another tiny tweak to change that a
little... and so on. But if there's a problem with readability of some text
size that is used throughout our application, and there's no such problems in
other applications on that OS, then that means that either we use wrong text
size *universally* in our app (which means we don't get correct size from OS),
or (if we use proper size) that we render text wrong (blurry?). And tweaking
text size in one specific control to workaround is just wrong. A fix is needed,
but in a different place. Please don't enrich the codebase with hacks that
would make it a PITA later to find why something works differently and
unexpectedly.

And in general - that patch included *different* fixes - something that is
*never* a good thing, e.g. in case when you need to revert one change, but not
another.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 127066] UI: Font size in input line (formular bar) larger than in other UI elements

2019-08-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127066

--- Comment #1 from Thorsten Wagner  ---
Calc input line is a special widget which is used in Calc only. In relation to
other UI widgets this widget may contain a lot of text like direct input to
Calc cells.

It's only a small effort to revert font size equal to the other UI elements,
but this will restore worse readability especially with larger amounts of text.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 122007] Support for multiple selection of list entries in data series selection

2019-08-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122007

Buovjaga  changed:

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 Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME
 Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 125864] Safer application of options for each filter criterium in a pivot table

2019-08-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125864

Buovjaga  changed:

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 Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED
   Keywords|needsUXEval |
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 Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 125864] Safer application of options for each filter criterium in a pivot table

2019-08-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125864

Markus Elfring  changed:

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--- Comment #7 from Markus Elfring  ---
Will any nicer solution ideas appear?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 122007] Support for multiple selection of list entries in data series selection

2019-08-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122007

Markus Elfring  changed:

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 Resolution|WORKSFORME  |---

--- Comment #13 from Markus Elfring  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #12)
> Multi-selection in the chart wizard lists makes no sense

I disagree.


> and removing entries is only necessary if the selected range has not been 
> chosen carefully.

Please check the mentioned use case once more.

Can other contributors convince you better for corresponding application needs?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 125834] Extend context menu in a pivot table with mark actions

2019-08-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125834

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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   Keywords|needsUXEval |
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 125834] Extend context menu in a pivot table with mark actions

2019-08-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125834

Markus Elfring  changed:

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 Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED
 Resolution|WORKSFORME  |---
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--- Comment #6 from Markus Elfring  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5)
I would appreciate a nicer context menu.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 126618] More explanatory title for "Compare documents" file select dialog

2019-08-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126618

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |79045_79...@mail.ru,
   |.freedesktop.org|heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   ||tion.org,
   ||mentoring@documentfoundatio
   ||n.org
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
   Priority|medium  |low
   Severity|normal  |minor
   Keywords|needsUXEval |
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #4 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Such an explanatory text would spoil the system dialog, if possible at all. And
to some extend I agree with the OP that in most cases the document is compared
with the original. Together with the fact that our documentation talks about
this term we should change the label to "Compare to original document".

That's definitely an easy hack.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 125864] Safer application of options for each filter criterium in a pivot table

2019-08-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125864

--- Comment #6 from Markus Elfring  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5)
> Having options for each of the 3 parameters is an overkill and impairing 
> usability.

I got other application expectations.

I hope that this view can be reconsidered.


> So closing as WFM.

Would other contributors like to adjust the software situation any more?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 122007] Support for multiple selection of list entries in data series selection

2019-08-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122007

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME
 Status|NEW |RESOLVED

--- Comment #12 from Heiko Tietze  ---
We had this topic on the agenda of the weekly design meeting. Multi-selection
in the chart wizard lists makes no sense and removing entries is only necessary
if the selected range has not been chosen carefully. So closing this as WFM.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 125826] Support context menus for management of list entries in pivot table setup dialogue

2019-08-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125826

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
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   Keywords|needsUXEval |

--- Comment #6 from Heiko Tietze  ---
For accessibility it makes sense to have alternatives to the drag 'n drop
actions. So let's add a context menu to Field with the actions Add to Row, Add
to Column, Add to Values and the respective menu at these lists with "Remove".

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 125834] Extend context menu in a pivot table with mark actions

2019-08-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125834

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED

--- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze  ---
We had this topic on the agenda for the weekly design meeting. The row/column
selection is not limited to pivot tables and commands would be relevant for
spreadsheets too. And since we have plenty of shortcuts to deal with data I
close this as WFM.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 125864] Safer application of options for each filter criterium in a pivot table

2019-08-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125864

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME

--- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze  ---
We had this topic on the agenda for the weekly design meeting. Having options
for each of the 3 parameters is an overkill and impairing usability. So closing
as WFM.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 62926] Add option to show 'Apply Style' menu in plain text

2019-08-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62926

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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   Keywords|needsUXEval |
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |
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--- Comment #13 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Results from the poll:

   * Add the new option under Options > View, next to "Show Font Preview" 
40%  (44 votes)
   * Combine the two (and prehaps more) controls under the same option 
29.09%  (32 votes)
   * Don't add another option  14.55%  (16 votes)
   * Add the new option under Options > Writer > View  11.82%  (13 votes)
   * Don't add another option and also remove the exiting "Show Font
Preview"  4.54%  (5 votes)


Taking the 2nd and 3rd option together (combine and no new) the majority is
against an additional checkbox. So let's combine the styles dropdown WYSIWYG
preview with View > Font. I would keep the sidebar preview option extra as this
is a different workflow and affecting a list instead dropdowns.

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