[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 127157] Add the ability to store comments within palette files (.soc)

2019-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127157

--- Comment #2 from Jean-Francois Nifenecker 
 ---
Hi Stuart,

I can certainly live without the UI tooltips. But such was not my primary
question.

The main concern is about adding comments. The XML commenting string exists but
doesn't fit the whole bill as its granularity is too coarse: the XML commenting
scheme is, IMO, meant to add information at the *file* level (in the
attachment, there's such a comment showing how the file was generated).

Commenting each color individually should be a property for that color which
would make things easier to manage at the color data level.
As for the global comment, here also, having a global comment property would be
clearer that this information is data.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 127157] Add the ability to store comments within palette files (.soc)

2019-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127157

V Stuart Foote  changed:

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   Keywords||needsUXEval

--- Comment #1 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Not true, XML commenting  is already available and is extensively used
to annotate the .SOC/.SOG within palette files.

But beyond the text string assigned to Color name, nothing additional is
exposed to the GUI.

For additional detail in the GUI ODF 1.2 does not provide annotation for the
draw:color; and beyond LO using the draw:name assigned to tooltip text on
selection/mouse over nothing is provided. No draw:comment is provided and would
require extending ODF. Not clear it is worth the effort--the installation
share/palette directory is readily available to review the commenting, and not
clear anything is gained exposing additional details to the GUI.

IMHO => WF

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 127174] Search dialog doesn't support "whole word only" option

2019-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127174

V Stuart Foote  changed:

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   Severity|normal  |enhancement
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--- Comment #1 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Hmm, we already use ICU libs for regex and word bounds are already integral.
Imagine it would not be too much of a stretch to use ICU word bounds in a
search option.

@Eike?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 125759] UI: Notes View: "Move element cursor" instead of "edit text cursor"

2019-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125759

--- Comment #5 from BottleOnTheGround  ---
An idea to reduce this problem:

- mouse-up within the text area 
  => go to text edit mode

- mouse-down and hold within textbox area (, perhaps move cursor around) 
  => select text box and drag around (no edit mode)

- ctrl + mouse-up within textbox area 
  => select text box (multiselect, if others were selected before)

- mouse-down / up on border of text box
  => select text box



If you're willing to think about it, I could provide a simple html example of
that behaviour for UI experience testing.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 103694] Rename file without having to save again as a new file.

2019-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103694

--- Comment #13 from espinosa_cz  ---
> Simple solution: close -> rename -> reopen. And remember the current position.

That was my implementation assumption too.
If you deem it too complicated, I would have perhaps a simpler idea: "deferred
renaming".
The actual, physical renaming would be done after user closes the document. 
At least on platforms not supporting opened file renaming, like Windows.

LO just need to display modified "Save changes to document" dialog informing
that rename is going to happen and user can still have option to cancel and not
go through.

Also on the UI level the name should be displayed in a different font color
indicating that the physical rename hasn't happened yet. 

I know, it's not ideal, but for most user, like me, it would still make my work
much easier. I have lost of documents and I like consistent naming which is
difficult to achieve, because you have to first, open the file and to see the
content, to decide on the name, but you cannot, because it is open.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 127123] Feature Request: Introduce Recently Used Fonts in Font Name drop-down list

2019-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127123

Maxim Monastirsky  changed:

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--- Comment #7 from Maxim Monastirsky  ---
As Stuart pointed out, we already have this feature of listing the last 5
chosen fonts. The list is stored in the user profile in the
user/config/fontnameboxmruentries file, and we even have an expert config
option to enable/disable this feature
(org.openoffice.Office.Common.Font.View.History). So I'm not sure why it
doesn't work for Pedro, maybe there's some bug involved here. I would suggest
at first to check the expert config, or even reset the user profile completely,
and see if that helps.

One problem that I did notice while testing this, is what happens when there
are several font name controls visible at the same time. This might be because
of several open documents, but as well might be in a single document, if both
the formatting toolbar and the sidebar are visible. It appears that each font
name control manages the MRU list on its own, and they're not synced. Moreover,
each control updates the fontnameboxmruentries file on its own when destroyed,
so the final contents of the fontnameboxmruentries file determined by the
control destroyed last, which might or might not be the one where the user
selected his fonts last.

In my testing I was selecting fonts in the toolbar control, and they appeared
in the MRU list at first, but not after restarting Writer. The problem turned
out to be with the sidebar. Everything went fine after I disabled the sidebar
via View > Sidebar. So that's another thing to watch out.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 127123] Feature Request: Introduce Recently Used Fonts in Font Name drop-down list

2019-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127123

--- Comment #6 from Pedro  ---
> Consider more than one projects where completely different fonts are used.
> Would be annoying to list the arty Comic for your thesis, right? In the
> other (more common) scenario you create similar documents where the
> preferred font should always be at hand. So what actually is need is both,
> per document and some kind of favorite. I would make this a duplicate of bug
> 91130. What do you think, Pedro?

I disagree. Bug 911130 refers to something completely different.

>My idea is that the font name drop down list will begin with containing only a 
>>short list of fonts that are commonly used and available on a user's system 
>(e.g. >Liberation Serif, Times New Roman, Liberation Sans, Arial, etc) and 
>additional >fonts will be added to the list according to the following 
>scenarios.

>1) A user opens a document which contains fonts not already shown in the list
>2) A user clicks on a 'More Fonts...' entry at the bottom of the list and 
>selects >to use a particular font in the character dialog's font tab

Now, the discussion over there drifted to overlap this bug.
IMO, the use case you mention is something different. It's to have a list of
preferred fonts at the top of the drop-down list, NOT the most recently used.

That's something that could be done in a different manner: allow the user to
pin fonts to the top of the drop-down menu.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 127066] UI: Font size in input line (formular bar) larger than in other UI elements

2019-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127066

--- Comment #9 from Thorsten Wagner  ---
Change submitted to Gerrit: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/78140/

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 127142] UI: Add 'Numbering Off' command to Format > Lists submenu

2019-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127142

--- Comment #10 from Maxim Monastirsky  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #9)
> How about listing this particular user style, if active, among the
> preselection plus Off?
That's likely the solution, but my point was that it isn't possible to do as
long as it's a static menu (i.e. fully defined in xml). For this we'll need a
dynamic menu which we can change at runtime (much like File > Recent Documents,
or View > Toolbars), to add/remove the user style.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 127142] UI: Add 'Numbering Off' command to Format > Lists submenu

2019-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127142

--- Comment #9 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Maxim Monastirsky from comment #7)
> Because not all styles are listed there, and users can
> create their own styles. So again there is a possibility for the "none
> activated" state.

How about listing this particular user style, if active, among the preselection
plus Off?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 127115] language-agnostic styles

2019-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127115

--- Comment #8 from Heiko Tietze  ---
As for the feedback I'd hope to solve it with the style inspector proposed in
bug 115311.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 127115] language-agnostic styles

2019-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127115

Regina Henschel  changed:

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--- Comment #7 from Regina Henschel  ---
The problem is this: Actually, language is a property of character portions.
However, the paragraph can have a default language. This is used if the
characters do not have their own language setting.
The problem in your case is, that if you select an entire paragraph, then the
choosen language is not applied to the characters, but it is set as default
language into the paragraph. If you then apply a new paragraph style it will
use the default of that new style.

For to set a language to a portion of text, define a _character_ style with
that language. To change the language of the text portion, apply that style. In
this case the "portion" may be an entire paragraph.

If you look into the generated file, the difference is, whether a 
element with a "Tn" (or your own character style name) style exists, or there
is only the  element with a "Pn" (or your own paragraph style name)
style.

There is indeed a UX problem: It is not clear, what happens, if an entire
paragraph is selected and something is done with this selection. Sometimes the
setting is uses as paragraph property, sometimes as character property. Only
the assignment of a character style seems to reliably generate the 
elements, needed for multi-language documents.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 127142] UI: Add 'Numbering Off' command to Format > Lists submenu

2019-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127142

--- Comment #8 from Maxim Monastirsky  ---
(In reply to Dieter Praas from comment #6)
> Thanks for clarification, but can a new user (or also en exeprienced user)
> be aware of that: There is no hint, that context menu affects styles:
> - context menu => bullets and numbering => bullets and numbering doesn't
> open list style dialog (the dialog is "Bullets and Numbering").
There is a similar situation with the Character and Paragraph sub menus of the
context menu: Single direct formatting item on the top, followed by style
commands. Confusing indeed.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 127142] UI: Add 'Numbering Off' command to Format > Lists submenu

2019-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127142

--- Comment #7 from Maxim Monastirsky  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #4)
> AFAIK, "Numbering Off" is a different command than the numbering styles but
> would be required to toggle on/off with those.
It doesn't need to interact with the other commands, just to provide an on/off
state on its own (which then can be visually represented as a radio button).

> Actually the current radio buttons list of styles has none
> activated, which is wrong usability wise.
True, but just want to point out that as long as this sub menu is static, it
won't be possible to fully solve this problem by just providing the "Numbering
Off" item. Because not all styles are listed there, and users can create their
own styles. So again there is a possibility for the "none activated" state.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 127142] UI: Add 'Numbering Off' command to Format > Lists submenu

2019-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127142

--- Comment #6 from Dieter Praas  ---
(In reply to Maxim Monastirsky from comment #5)
> (In reply to Dieter Praas from comment #1)
> There's some confusion here: The items in the context menu are applying
> styles (they correspond to the same items under the Styles menu), while the
> items in Format > List menu are about direct formatting

Thanks for clarification, but can a new user (or also en exeprienced user) be
aware of that: There is no hint, that context menu affects styles:
- context menu => bullets and numbering => bullets and numbering doesn't open
list style dialog (the dialog is "Bullets and Numbering"). According to your
comment, this is a bug?
- with the other option you change the style, but doesn't modify it

In summary: Yes, confusing.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 127142] UI: Add 'Numbering Off' command to Format > Lists submenu

2019-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127142

--- Comment #5 from Maxim Monastirsky  ---
(In reply to Dieter Praas from comment #1)
There's some confusion here: The items in the context menu are applying styles
(they correspond to the same items under the Styles menu), while the items in
Format > List menu are about direct formatting (they correspond to the toolbar
bullet and numbering toggle buttons). So:

> different names: "Bullet list" ans "number list" in context menu; "bulleted
> list" and "numbered list" in Format => list
Given that they're not the same, not necessarily they need to have same names.

> in Format => List you can remove list, if you click on marked "Bulleted
> List"; in context menue this is not possible
Right. "Bulleted List" in Format > List is about direct formatting, which you
can toggle on and off, like any other direct formatting (e.g. Bold). While the
context menu items are actually styles, and it doesn't make sense to "toggle"
styles.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 127115] language-agnostic styles

2019-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127115

l...@royal.net changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Resolution|WORKSFORME  |---
 Status|RESOLVED|UNCONFIRMED

--- Comment #6 from l...@royal.net ---
Not Locale, but Default Language for Documents, but that's beside the point.
Default language is applied to the whole document, changing it will
comprehensively screw up language information of a multilingual document -
exactly the issue I am trying to avoid. If you type a French word and assign it
French language, then a German word and assign it German language, and then
change Default language to English US it will be changed for both of these
words. What I am looking for is the ability to change styles while preserving
language information (content!) intact: apply heading style and keep one word
German and another French. As for creating separate styles for each language, I
sincerely hope you are joking.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 127115] language-agnostic styles

2019-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127115

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED

--- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Language of styles is bound to Tools > Options > Language > Locale. Switching
from English to French changes the default for Default (and styles based on
it). Seems to be kind of agnostic since Default is not always English. And
since we are bound to the open document format we cannot change much here.
Fortunately you can create templates for all languages you use with the
properties you need.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 127115] language-agnostic styles

2019-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127115

Dieter Praas  changed:

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--- Comment #4 from Dieter Praas  ---
cc: Design-Team for further input

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 127140] Feature Request: Right click menu options for frequent documents in Windows 10 taskbar

2019-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127140

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org
  Component|LibreOffice |UI
 OS|All |Windows (All)
   Keywords|needsUXEval |
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 127140] Feature Request: Right click menu options for frequent documents in Windows 10 taskbar

2019-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127140

--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Created attachment 153652
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=153652=edit
Screenshot of quick start on W10

I agree with the request. The quick starter has no recent documents, which is
common on Windows.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 127123] Feature Request: Introduce Recently Used Fonts in Font Name drop-down list

2019-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127123

--- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Consider more than one projects where completely different fonts are used.
Would be annoying to list the arty Comic for your thesis, right? In the other
(more common) scenario you create similar documents where the preferred font
should always be at hand. So what actually is need is both, per document and
some kind of favorite. I would make this a duplicate of bug 91130. What do you
think, Pedro?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 87695] SIDEBAR: Improvements to new track changes sidebar tab

2019-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87695

--- Comment #21 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #9)
> UX team came up with a solution in... 
> http://user-prompt.com/de/tracking-changes-with-libreoffice/

It's replicated at
https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2015/02/19/tracking-changes-with-libreoffice/

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 127098] Improve filter of Track Changes

2019-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127098

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|Functions to Track and View |Improve filter of Track
   |Changes should really   |Changes
   |become Useful   |
 Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED

--- Comment #1 from Heiko Tietze  ---
We mad a proposal for a TC sidebar deck in
https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2015/02/19/tracking-changes-with-libreoffice/
and took filtering into account. The respective ticket is bug 87695.

As your input tackle more that just the filter please join the discussion on
this ticket.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 87695 ***

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 87695] SIDEBAR: Improvements to new track changes sidebar tab

2019-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87695

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 CC||adalbert.hans...@gmx.de

--- Comment #20 from Heiko Tietze  ---
*** Bug 127098 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 127066] UI: Font size in input line (formular bar) larger than in other UI elements

2019-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127066

--- Comment #8 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Thorsten Wagner from comment #7)
> Preparing a patch to revert font size to 100% of UI font size

Please add me to the reviewers.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 125759] UI: Notes View: "Move element cursor" instead of "edit text cursor"

2019-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125759

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX

--- Comment #4 from Heiko Tietze  ---
The cursor changes to a pointer when outside the (note) shapes and to the
"i-beam" when at the text area (only in this case you can directly switch to
editing per single click otherwise you need to double click the shape). So the
problem boils down to how we detect a text area under the cursor. This is a
technical limitation not really a bug but admittedly unexpected as the shape is
seen as a text box. Unfortunately it's not solvable - and in other situations
the expected behavior.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 127142] UI: Add 'Numbering Off' command to Format > Lists submenu

2019-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127142

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||momonas...@gmail.com
 Ever confirmed|0   |1
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW

--- Comment #4 from Heiko Tietze  ---
AFAIK, "Numbering Off" is a different command than the numbering styles but
would be required to toggle on/off with those. Not an easy hack, right Maxim?

And for the question whether to show or not, I vote for having it at both
places. Actually the current radio buttons list of styles has none activated,
which is wrong usability wise.

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