[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 63967] Ability to Quickly Get Word Count of Sections Using Navigator

2020-03-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63967

--- Comment #5 from Jim Raykowski  ---
Here is a patch that displays word and character count in a tool tip for
Sections in Writer Navigator.

https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/91268

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 92406] STATUSBAR: Making the statusbar configurable in Writer

2020-03-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92406

Regina Henschel  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||rb.hensc...@t-online.de

--- Comment #15 from Regina Henschel  ---
In case you will not wait, till something is implemented, you can already tweak
the status bar by editing its xml-file:

Copy the file statusbar.xml from
\share\config\soffice.cfg\modules\swriter\statusbar to
\config\soffice.cfg\modules\swriter\statusbar.
(I suggest to copy it, because then you can simple delete the copied file, in
case it does not work for you.)
Open the file in an editor and change values and/or order.

Some information about the status bar can be found in
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Framework/Tutorial/Statusbar_Controller.
Although for an old version of OpenOffice.org, most parts are still valid for
LibreOffice.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 92406] STATUSBAR: Making the statusbar configurable in Writer

2020-03-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92406

--- Comment #14 from Stephen Meatheringham  ---
I would find a configurable status bar incredibly useful. I often have two
windows open on a quite high resolution monitor. I do not want them
overlapping. When I make the Writer window narrower I lose the language field.
That is one I use very often as I write documents in multiple languages.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 129749] Index: Allow use of "n" to specify entries in footnotes and endnotes

2020-03-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129749

Dieter  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords||needsUXEval
 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org
 Blocks||89606


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89606
[Bug 89606] [META] Table of Contents and Indexes bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 130778] Branding for 7.0

2020-03-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130778

--- Comment #9 from Heiko Tietze  ---
jackandmixers: Please share the raw content so we can implement your artwork
perhaps at the Windows installer. Extracted from the PDF it would be bad
quality.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 131556] STYLES SIDEBAR: Checkbutton for styles filter

2020-03-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131556

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Ever confirmed|0   |1
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO

--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze  ---
And if you talk about templates, we have the template manager that serves the
selection purpose very well.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 131529] Cannot modify preinstalled galleries

2020-03-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131529

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords||needsDevEval

--- Comment #6 from Heiko Tietze  ---
All galleries as extension leads to no gallery when build is done without it.
And that might feel as broken app. If we store the shipped extensions at the
user space it has the same effect but circumvents the extension management. 

Let's see if we get more opinions on that.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 131315] Index: Implement letter by letter alphabetising

2020-03-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131315

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
   Keywords|needsUXEval |
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze  ---
UX-wise the sorting would go into the "key type" dropdown as an alternative to
alphanumeric. So introducing another algorithm wouldnt be a problem at all and
is welcome.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 125268] Wrong text highlight color when export document to doc/docx

2020-03-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125268

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org
   Keywords|needsUXEval |

--- Comment #41 from Heiko Tietze  ---
We discussed the topic in the design meeting. While introducing a color palette
is the easiest solution it cripples our features for no good reason. MSO might
change the behavior at any time. 

The better approach is to warn in detail what attribute in the current document
might not work when saved as docx (or other formats). That means to analyze the
document, compare against a list of incompatibilities, and show it to the user.

The newly introduced mso-highlight.soc palette is questionable.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 125268] Wrong text highlight color when export document to doc/docx

2020-03-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125268

--- Comment #40 from Mike Kaganski  ---
(In reply to Michael Meeks from comment #38)
> As an example: if you load a DOCX file - then we can safely assume you will
> save as DOCX (this covers some vast proportion of the use cases) - and so we
> can hide the UI options associated with doing more powerful ODF supported
> things =) On ODF export to DOCX people expect some format shifting problems,
> so we select the nearest feature, and the nearest matching hue for this case.

Let me provide an example of a (different) problem that this would bring. In
Writer, there's a concept of page styles, which is totally absent in Word.
Trying to "hide" this functionality from users opening DOCX would simply
disable any means of manipulating pages in Writer (there's nothing except of
page styles for that in Writer, and that is its strength). So that would result
in need of spending so little developer effort implementing an alternative
machinery - UI, but also internal stuff. Of course, that won't bring any
maintenance costs with it, and no problems with interoperability of stuff
created by the same Writer when in different modes.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 131418] Musical notes as a gallery

2020-03-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131418

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED

--- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze  ---
We discussed the idea in the design meeting and decided to not do it. There are
better suited tools and the use case is out of scope.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 131369] Unify terms in dialog to search text

2020-03-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131369

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords|needsUXEval |difficultyBeginner,
   ||easyHack, skillDesign,
   ||topicDesign
 Ever confirmed|0   |1
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW

--- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze  ---
We discussed the topic in the design meeting.

a) Use "Match case" instead of "Case Sensitive"
b) Use title style capitalization in AutoRedaction dialog
c) Use "Regular expression" in singular

Terminology is easyhacking, happy to supply code pointers.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 130995] Introduce UNO command and dialog to quickly set grid properties

2020-03-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130995

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|Possibility to have several |Introduce UNO command and
   |grids activable and |dialog to quickly set grid
   |deactivable easily (as in   |properties
   |Inkscape for instance)  |
 Blocks||86899
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org
 Ever confirmed|0   |1
   Keywords|needsUXEval |
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
  Component|Impress |UI

--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze  ---
We discussed the topic in the design meeting. While different grids are not
easy to customize the use case is clear and affects probably many people. So
the suggestion is to make it easier to change the values by introducing a UNO
command that opens a dedicated grid property dialog replicating what's
available at the sidebar.


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86899
[Bug 86899] [META] Requests for the addition of UNO commands
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 92657] Questionable Default for Bullet Sizing

2020-03-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92657

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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   Keywords|needsUXEval |

--- Comment #35 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Summarizing from the UX perspective:

a) => wfm (cannot confirm the issue)
b) => nab (if there is a difference in descenders it's up to the font designer;
OTOH it's unclear which to keep),
c) => wf (smaller bullet size is not a solution)

The only solution is to use the actual paragraph font for the bullets; and to
accept if the font has no bullet defined. The problem here might be that the
bullet character is not easy to find.

An alternative is maybe to cut the bullet at the baseline of the paragraph.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 125268] Wrong text highlight color when export document to doc/docx

2020-03-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125268

--- Comment #39 from Mike Kaganski  ---
(In reply to Michael Meeks from comment #38)
> This is an old-chestnut. There is a very significant cost in code
> complexity, maintenance and CPU time of walking the entire LibreOffice
> document model before starting to serialize it. Worse - whatever output we
> produce is never going to be completely accurate anyway.

I don't think it's that complex. Just moving the warning dialog from beginning
of the export into "in the middle", when an export model was created, but not
yet written t the file, would allow each export function to output its warnings
to a provided logger. No need to create a dedicated step.

> Worse - this will inevitably produce a long, and impenetrable series of
> highly technical 'stuff' as text (if we had even more infinite resource we
> could link each item to the document somehow) - that is going to be
> frightening and/or not interesting to all of our end-users who just want to
> understand:
> "why does it not work?",
> "Why did you let me get into this situation I don't understand !?" - etc.

Believing that you may always come with an "elegant" solution to problems
caused externally is daydreaming IMO. The list might be collapsed by default,
but not providing it because many wouldn't understand it is demeaning users. In
fact, currently many users just disable the warning that has no value at all,
because it seems to be wrong ("I saved my simple document to DOCX many times,
and never got any problems - it must be a joke!") only to later stumble upon a
problem with a thing that they never used before, and come here or to AskLibO
with "you ruined my many hours of work without warning!". If instead we only
output the dialog when there's actual dataloss, like here, or at least make it
"we didn't identified specific issues, but still there might be some problems"
when nothing specific was identified, it would provide value to people.

> I'm not in the UX team; but I would be staggered if this was thought to be a
> good idea. Almost certainly it is far easier to solve the problem in a more
> elegant way.
> 
> As an example: if you load a DOCX file - then we can safely assume you will
> save as DOCX (this covers some vast proportion of the use cases) - and so we
> can hide the UI options associated with doing more powerful ODF supported
> things =) On ODF export to DOCX people expect some format shifting problems,
> so we select the nearest feature, and the nearest matching hue for this case.

Which would effectively mean "let's implement MS Word for those who load DOCX;
Pages for those who load .pages, etc.". That would become a nightmare of
multiple inconsistent UIs, each trying to satisfy some subset of users, and at
the same time dissatisfy e.g. users who receive a DOCX and are editing it to
save as ODT.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 125268] Wrong text highlight color when export document to doc/docx

2020-03-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125268

--- Comment #38 from Michael Meeks  ---
> Better we would fix a different issue, which is unclear set of what is broken
> on export. The warning user gets when saving to an external format doesn't
> list specifics what will break;

This is an old-chestnut. There is a very significant cost in code complexity,
maintenance and CPU time of walking the entire LibreOffice document model
before starting to serialize it. Worse - whatever output we produce is never
going to be completely accurate anyway.

Worse - this will inevitably produce a long, and impenetrable series of highly
technical 'stuff' as text (if we had even more infinite resource we could link
each item to the document somehow) - that is going to be frightening and/or not
interesting to all of our end-users who just want to understand:
"why does it not work?",
"Why did you let me get into this situation I don't understand !?" - etc.

Any good UX should not be spending lots of time, developer work, debugging etc.
to do an imperfect job of providing extremely dense and unhelpful information.
No matter how satisfying that is to developers who can say "I told you so in a
footnote on page 135 of that dialog you clicked through" ;-)

Microsoft of course were leaned on by their customers to try to do this for
their ODF export filter. They produced 900+ pages of documentation - you can
read it here: 
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/openspecs/office_standards/ms-oodf/68b99f79-842f-4db2-9249-0f71b611712b
in a 10Mb PDF download.

I'm not in the UX team; but I would be staggered if this was thought to be a
good idea. Almost certainly it is far easier to solve the problem in a more
elegant way.

As an example: if you load a DOCX file - then we can safely assume you will
save as DOCX (this covers some vast proportion of the use cases) - and so we
can hide the UI options associated with doing more powerful ODF supported
things =) On ODF export to DOCX people expect some format shifting problems, so
we select the nearest feature, and the nearest matching hue for this case.

At least, that's my 2 cents.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 129160] Too narrow margin around icons on high DPI screen

2020-03-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129160

--- Comment #13 from Tomaz Vajngerl  ---
Well in windows we use to manually change the UI elements depending on the
scale factor. This approach means we would need to take everywhere the scaling
factor into account (for all the margins and whatever). 
Compared to HiDPI scaling in GTK3, where this is all done in the lower levels
so there it looks mostly the same as without HiDPI scaling. We decided some
time ago that we would do the same for other backends or generally for VCL, but
nobody worked on it yet.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 125268] Wrong text highlight color when export document to doc/docx

2020-03-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125268

--- Comment #37 from Mike Kaganski  ---
I don't think we should fix this by itself.

Better we would fix a different issue, which is unclear set of what is broken
on export. The warning user gets when saving to an external format doesn't list
specifics what will break; and e.g. in this case, it could have an item for "A
character background cannot be represented using MSO's highlighting and will be
approximated to [this color]. Alternatively, you may select character
backgrounds to be exported as shading, which is less-known MSO feature and may
cause UX issues..."

with possible links to descriptions, etc. That is a big task, but you just
cannot hope to solve problems like this one, where there's a feature set
mismatch (and even inherent other program's UX problem!), to fit all.

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