[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 141566] Implement os/DE theme support in Basic Editor, allow for dark mode when used

2021-04-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141566

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 141566] Implement os/DE theme support in Basic Editor, allow for dark mode when used

2021-04-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141566

--- Comment #13 from QA Administrators  ---
[Automated Action] NeedInfo-To-Unconfirmed

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 135977] Rename and Reorder Template Menu to make it more intuitive.

2021-04-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135977

--- Comment #4 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
(In reply to Clarc from comment #0)
Thanks for your suggestions and interest. Improvements are worthwhile, but
maybe a more comprehensive approach is preferable.

-  Naming issues
(a)  About comment 2.  "Open Template" will be "Edit Template" in 7.2 (see bug
138621, comment 8)

(b) Template Manager has multiple purposes (including setting a default
template, renaming and deleting templates, putting them in categories, moving
them between categories, etc.), so it is just as problematic to rename the
command to something that signals primarily "open a document based on a
template" -- because then it "hides" all the other management functions (see
next point).

- Position issue
Changing command position in the Template submenu might be appropriate if
nothing further was done in relation to templates. But maybe the UI should be
improved to (a) make it easier to use templates and (b) unnecessary to use
template manager (Ctrl+Shift+N) as the primary (only) way to open templates
(see bug 137906).

With that approach, the template manger would go back (become) primarily a
dialog to manage templates, and then its name and position would become less
important, in relation to opening new documents with templates.

My proposal: Given that the OP is focused on "improve the user-friendliness",
consider closing this ticket as a duplicate of bug 137906, as way to
indicate/register interest for improving ease of using/selecting templates when
opening new documents (and then "position" can be considered in light of other
planned UI changes).

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 76258] Filter by colors in Calc

2021-04-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76258

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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   Keywords||needsUXEval
 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org

--- Comment #29 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Conditional formatting works per Cell Style and you can search right now for
cell styles. Sort doesn't has the option but we could add the condition Cell
Style with values listing up the available styles. 

Now I wonder if we really want to clutter the UI with another option to search
for and filter by colors. Admittedly it's easier to quickly highlight a cell
per color and one needs to get familiar with styles. But it's the more flexible
choice.

What I don't understand is sorting per color (or style). Makes not much sense
to me.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 141566] Implement os/DE theme support in Basic Editor, allow for dark mode when used

2021-04-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141566

--- Comment #12 from Rafael Lima  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #11)
> Sorry for the confusion with Math. But it's the same for Basic: you get the
> canvas in application background color. And besides the fact that a dark
> background as Kate has is bad IMHO, you can configure it and the question is
> why you need a special handling for Basic.

The reason is because users may want, at the same time, to have a dark
background in the Basic Editor while maintaining a white background for
Writer/Calc documents.

In my previous message I used Writer examples to explain why Writer users might
want to keep a white background even on a dark theme.

I myself do a lot of Basic programming and I would love to use dark background
in the Basic editor, while keeping the white background in Writer/Calc.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 141566] Implement os/DE theme support in Basic Editor, allow for dark mode when used

2021-04-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141566

--- Comment #11 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Sorry for the confusion with Math. But it's the same for Basic: you get the
canvas in application background color. And besides the fact that a dark
background as Kate has is bad IMHO, you can configure it and the question is
why you need a special handling for Basic.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 141566] Implement os/DE theme support in Basic Editor, allow for dark mode when used

2021-04-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141566

--- Comment #10 from Rafael Lima  ---
Created attachment 171193
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=171193=edit
Screenshots of the File in Dark and White document background

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 141566] Implement os/DE theme support in Basic Editor, allow for dark mode when used

2021-04-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141566

--- Comment #9 from Rafael Lima  ---
Created attachment 171192
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=171192=edit
Writer Document created in a Dark Background

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 141566] Implement os/DE theme support in Basic Editor, allow for dark mode when used

2021-04-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141566

--- Comment #8 from Rafael Lima  ---
Even in dark mode, there are many reasons to stick with a white background in
Writer:

1) I write papers in contribution with other authors and they create their
documents using white background. This is the default in academic writing,
because later the paper will be published as a PDF (with white background) or
printed in paper (white too).

2) In Writer, if you chose a dark background and start adding images from other
sources (which were created with white background in mind), they will produce a
weird looking document (everything is black and all of a sudden there is a
white image, which was supposed to blend with the document if the document
background were white too - see example in the attached ODG).

3) Font colors are a problem too. If you start setting font colors with dark
background in mind (using direct formatting) and then send the file to someone
with a white background (which is still a majority), the recipient won't be
able to read parts of the text formatted using direct formatting (I know that
it's best to use styles, but most people still use direct formatting for basic
things as setting font colors).

I created a sample Writer file (using a dark background) and added a few
screenshots with it rendered in dark and light background to illustrate my
point.

It should be noted that when using the Default character style, LO already
switches font colors from black to white to respond to dark mode. However, the
problem arises with direct formatting.

On the other hand, users programing in the Basic Editor will probably want to
stick with a dark background when system theme is in dark mode, even while
maintaining a white background for Writer documents.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 141668] Smooth/Animated scrolling for automatic positioning, eg. clicking last line of text visible

2021-04-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141668

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org
   Keywords|needsUXEval |
Summary|Unexpected view change  |Smooth/Animated scrolling
   |after clicking last line of |for automatic positioning,
   |text visible|eg. clicking last line of
   ||text visible
   Severity|normal  |enhancement

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 141566] Implement os/DE theme support in Basic Editor, allow for dark mode when used

2021-04-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141566

--- Comment #7 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Apologies, you talk about Basic. But still, why should it use a different color
than other modules?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 141566] Implement os/DE theme support in Basic Editor, allow for dark mode when used

2021-04-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141566

--- Comment #6 from Rafael Lima  ---
Created attachment 171190
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=171190=edit
Screenshots describing the issue

Consider this ODG file for the message above.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 141566] Implement os/DE theme support in Basic Editor, allow for dark mode when used

2021-04-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141566

Rafael Lima  changed:

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 Attachment #171189|0   |1
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 141566] Implement os/DE theme support in Basic Editor, allow for dark mode when used

2021-04-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141566

--- Comment #5 from Rafael Lima  ---
Created attachment 171189
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=171189=edit
Screenshots describing the issue

(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #4)
> Please start Math from Calc (Insert > Object > Formula) and revise your
> comment.

Heiko, I'm not sure what you would like me to revise. As I pointed out in my
first message: "Other text editors in LO such as Math's formula editor respond
to dark mode as expected". You can see in the first image of the ODG file I've
just attached that indeed the Formula Editor in Math follows system colors and
gets a dark background and white font color.

As for this part: "is the same as the one used in the Background of Writer
documents", what I meant is that Basic's Editor does not respond to dark mode
because it gets its color from the "Document Background" color in the Options
menu (see the 2nd image in the attached ODG file).

What I'm proposing is to have a separate color setting for the Basic IDE, so
that the user can set different colors for "Document Background" and "Basic
Editor Background Color".

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 45389] FORMATTING: Footnote Tooltip not honoring Footnote formatting

2021-04-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45389

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 Status|NEW |NEEDINFO

--- Comment #4 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Tooltips should remain under control of the OS/DE but I wonder if there is
benefit from introducing a special styled tip. What's your use case, Satchit?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 66875] Other: Enhancement: Functionality to compare different style windows side by side on the screen

2021-04-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66875

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME
 Status|NEW |RESOLVED

--- Comment #8 from Heiko Tietze  ---
This idea has been superseded by the Styles Inspector, see bug 134554

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 46024] [RFE, FORMATTING] Allow creation of floating paragraphs

2021-04-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46024

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX
 Status|NEW |RESOLVED

--- Comment #4 from Heiko Tietze  ---
We have to follow the ODF standard and floating text is not part of it.
Besides, I believe all formatting can be done easily with what we have, the two
columns example is one out of the box, and frames are handy for unusual
situations with freely positioned text. => WF

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 47114] ability to swap "open document" file dialog with file manager

2021-04-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47114

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX
 Status|NEW |RESOLVED

--- Comment #6 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Joel recommended WF and I agree. The file browser filters for only those files
that can be read by the application. Swapping dialogs would be rather confusing
for the "weekend users".

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 135974] User Notes (Howto): toolbars, screens offer possibility for user to enter his own howto-tips

2021-04-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135974

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||olivier.hallot@libreoffice.
   ||org
  Component|UI  |Documentation

--- Comment #1 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Why does this need a special UI or add some user-defined offline documentation?
Just write down your notes in Writer and save at some handy position.

Btw, the program's name is Calc ;-)

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 135977] Rename and Reorder Template Menu to make it more intuitive.

2021-04-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135977

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||sdc.bla...@youmail.dk

--- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Clarc from comment #0)
> POSITION: ... option is most used
Not against this idea but just mentioning that generic properties are at the
bottom of context menus.

> NAMING: ... 'Use Template' or 'Document from Template'...switch the naming of 
> 'Manage Templates' and 'Open Template'
Not excited about this idea, maybe used to the term "manage". Switching labels
would be a major pitfall for translators and users.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 135856] Cannot scroll large slide content from PPTX or zoom in outside slide boundary

2021-04-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135856

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|Cannot scroll large slide   |Cannot scroll large slide
   |content or zoom in outside  |content from PPTX or zoom
   |slide boundary  |in outside slide boundary
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org,
   ||vmik...@collabora.com
   Keywords|needsUXEval |filter:pptx
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #4 from Heiko Tietze  ---
New slide with default properties has the format 16:9 with 28 x 15,75cm
width/height. Placing objects at -28/-7,88 min respectively 50,5/20,25 max is
possible  and scrolling works fine.

The example has a user-defined slide dimension and placing objects at the same
relative min/max works as expected. But MSO apparently allows objects to be
places beyond that - and we show it with the same coordinates (min -33,87 cm in
both cases).

This needs to be fixed, any position of objects should be possible.

The scrollbar works according the ruler but has to follow the update.
Workaround is to zoom out.

Bug 117009 recommends to introduce a "auto-center" option that is on by default
and hides the scrollbars when the entire slide is visible. If the option is off
we get the current behavior where scrollbars always allow to put content out of
sight.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 135856] Cannot scroll large slide content or zoom in outside slide boundary

2021-04-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135856

--- Comment #3 from Mihai Vasiliu  ---
Well, it does not contradict 117009, but that one is wrongly explained. The
scroll bars should be as long as the *content* in the canvas, not the slide
itself (does not matter how big is the slide, just how big is the content that
can be placed even outside the slide).
That bug implies that the scroll bars should autosize relative to the content
that needs to be scrollable. So if there is no reason to scroll, they should go
away (have zero scrolling ability).

So this 2 bugs should be treated as complementing themselves.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 135977] Rename and Reorder Template Menu to make it more intuitive.

2021-04-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135977

Buovjaga  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords||needsUXEval
 Whiteboard| QA:needsComment|
 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 135974] User Notes (Howto): toolbars, screens offer possibility for user to enter his own howto-tips

2021-04-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135974

Buovjaga  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org
   Keywords||needsUXEval
Summary|User Notes (Howto): |User Notes (Howto):
   |toolbars, screens offer |toolbars, screens offer
   |possibility for user to |possibility for user to
   |enter his own howto-tipps   |enter his own howto-tips
 Whiteboard| QA:needsComment|

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 135856] Cannot scroll large slide content or zoom in outside slide boundary

2021-04-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135856

Buovjaga  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords||needsUXEval
 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org
Summary|Cannot scroll large slide   |Cannot scroll large slide
   |content or zoom in ouside   |content or zoom in outside
   |slide boundry   |slide boundary
 Whiteboard| QA:needsComment|

--- Comment #2 from Buovjaga  ---
Design team: this report seems to contradict the request in bug 117009 (on the
other hand, there does not seem to be consensus on how to tackle 117009)

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 47114] ability to swap "open document" file dialog with file manager

2021-04-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47114

Buovjaga  changed:

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 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org
   Keywords||needsUXEval

--- Comment #5 from Buovjaga  ---
Design team: this needs re-evaluation

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 46595] Add choice for vertical align to optical center

2021-04-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46595

Buovjaga  changed:

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 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
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   Keywords||needsUXEval

--- Comment #5 from Buovjaga  ---
Design team: needs re-evaluation

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 46024] [RFE, FORMATTING] Allow creation of floating paragraphs

2021-04-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46024

Buovjaga  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org
   Keywords||needsUXEval

--- Comment #3 from Buovjaga  ---
Design team: this needs to be re-evaluated

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 66875] Other: Enhancement: Functionality to compare different style windows side by side on the screen

2021-04-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66875

Buovjaga  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org
   Keywords||needsUXEval

--- Comment #7 from Buovjaga  ---
Design team: I think it's worth it to re-evaluate this old one.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 45389] FORMATTING: Footnote Tooltip not honoring Footnote formatting

2021-04-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45389

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--- Comment #3 from Buovjaga  ---
I don't understand, why tooltip text should honour formatting. Design team:
please weigh in on this. Seems like WONTFIX material.

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