[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 144165] Highlight the current line in Writer?

2021-09-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144165

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 144165] Highlight the current line in Writer?

2021-09-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144165

--- Comment #9 from tor...@yahoo.com ---
(In reply to Gerhard Weydt from comment #4)
> Also for WF. Another trick to see where the cursor is would be to switch on
> the background colour.

● What does ‘switch on the background colour’ mean?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 144165] Highlight the current line in Writer?

2021-09-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144165

--- Comment #8 from tor...@yahoo.com ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #6)
> We discussed this topic in the design meeting and recommend to not
> implement. Writer is meant to be WYSIWYG.
● ‘What you see is what you get’ does not apply at the editing stage: you ‘see’
the cursor when you edit, but you don't ‘get’ it in the document; you ‘see’ the
blue background of your edit window, but you don't ‘get’ it in the document;
you ‘see’ a string highlight (eg, in a search), but you don't ‘get’ it in the
document. Same for the currentLine: you will ‘see’ it (easily, thank-you very
much!), but you won't ‘get’ it in the document.
So, ‘changing the line color’ during editing does not ‘contradicts this
effort’.

> Text editors provide this functionality very well.
● Right. So, you are telling LO users to go and use their favorite text editors
if they want to enjoy this functionality…

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 144165] Highlight the current line in Writer?

2021-09-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144165

--- Comment #7 from tor...@yahoo.com ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #2)
> (In reply to TorrAB from comment #0)
> > Because it's not just another ‘plain-text editor’?
> 
> This would be my argument. It overwrites the paragraph/character formatting
● No, it does not. Heading 3 remains Heading 3, FirstLineIndent remains
FirstLineIndent, Italic remains Italic, Arial remains Arial, etc. Only the
fore|background colours would be changed — without affecting the document,
obviously.

> and can be quite distracting
● The colour combination would be customizable, from ‘loud’ to soft, or
indistinguishable currentLine.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 144195] UI: PNG export dialog has radio button doesn't allow 'dimensions' or 'DPI' to be set both

2021-09-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144195

--- Comment #10 from Regina Henschel  ---
Telesto, I agree with you, that the current UI is not good, because it provides
unexpected results. But the previous UI wasn't better.
Unfortunately it is too late for LO7.2 to change the UI.

But for LO 7.3 there is time enough to find a better solution.

Idea for example: Add a toggle button with connecting bracket between connected
settings with the meaning "automatic adapt connected setting" vs "do not
connect settings but keep value in the other setting". Such connection exists
between "width" and "height" and it exists between "resolution" and
"dimension".

I support setting the bugreport to "new".

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 144195] UI: PNG export dialog has radio button doesn't allow 'dimensions' or 'DPI' to be set both

2021-09-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144195

--- Comment #9 from Telesto  ---
Created attachment 174745
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=174745=edit
Screenshot

(In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #8)
> Example: If I set 300dpi and then width 10inch x height 6.88inch,
> LibreOffice generates an image with 3007 pixels x 2067 pixels. That is
> correct besides small rounding errors.

A BIG *oops* / Mea culpa.. you're right on that point.. I might gone somewhat
off-track.. [Offtopic: PNG doesn't write DPI at all; know fact] Back to comment
0...

A) Radio button does suggest it's or/or. I don't see what the value is of
having with radio buttons. (I see it as wrong usage of radio button: not clear
why it's chosen at all)

B) The dialog has number of assumptions.
* It's uses aspect ratio by design. This is non-optional (which makes it less
flexible). And even worse this isn't communicated; only after it's to late (by
touching it) 
* It uses match size to DPI by design. Under the assumption that's desired? The
default is based on screen resolution (for shapes).. In my case 96 DPI. that's
very low by definition.. So need to bump it up. And go back to Size and set it
again (inconvenient; it's simply a workaround). You need to know in advance
that DPI influences the size (again lack of communication of the UI). And
remember the original size to be able to put it back. And not everybody is good
in remembering (in general) or maybe especially numbers. And well I mostly work
top down :-). Happens when reading a book, or filling a form.. 

I personally think both options should be given: depended and in depended.

C) If you type DPI [no, I don't scroll up from 96 (my default) to 300] the
'size' field isn't updated. If you press OK you will get 3,20 x 3,20 cm. This
is a thing/limitation with those spin-boxes. As long as the cursor being inside
it, nothing will update.. Not sure if something has changed in the last 9
months or so :-(. The feedback is awful


Lets add another dialog of IrfanView; the set size in percentage is also nice
to have, BTW

All those things are pretty much GUI problems at a level of 'easyHack'
LibreOffice pretty much capable of handling it. It's only the GUI not exposing
this. Which makes even harder to accept the current being decent state.
Especially there being plenty of other software capable to do so.

So I'm really not getting the objection/ refusal. Is it about a "floodgates
principle"; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floodgates_principle. And me not
seeing the floods for more requests? Or fear of opening some can of worms? 
This appears really contained in scope, IMHO.. 

The only problem which goes outside easy hack is the spinbox not updating
issue. started with welding.. and also affecting Table dialog (column width).
And likely another few area's..

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 33749] Inconsistencies in Help pages on Cell Merging and Splitting (unmerging) in Calc

2021-09-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33749

--- Comment #24 from Rafael Lima  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #23)
> Not a native speaker so with grain of salt: "Split" is more common and
> natural than "Unmerge" which implies that something has been merged before.
> All this discussion is quite academic to me. But OTOH renaming is pretty
> easy. However, where is "Split"?

Hi Heiko. Just to be clear, in Writer the terminology is correct: "Split
Cells". This is correct because in Writer, if you add a table you can select
any cell and split it further. And the newly created cells can be split again,
and again...

In Calc it is not possible to Split a cell. If you select a single cell, it is
not possible to split it in two. The only thing that can be done is first to
merge cells and later "Unmerge" them restoring their original situation.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 144195] UI: PNG export dialog has radio button doesn't allow 'dimensions' or 'DPI' to be set both

2021-09-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144195

--- Comment #8 from Regina Henschel  ---
(In reply to Telesto from comment #0)
> Description:
> UI: PNG export dialog has radio button doesn't allow 'dimensions' or 'DPI'
> to be set both

I have no problem getting the desired DPI _and_ dimension.
First click on resolution and set the DPI.
Second click on dimension and change width or height.

Example: If I set 300dpi and then width 10inch x height 6.88inch, LibreOffice
generates an image with 3007 pixels x 2067 pixels. That is correct besides
small rounding errors.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143221] Menu/Toolbar entry to show hidden character

2021-09-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143221

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143390] New "Search Commands" feature: Search window remains on top when switching to other applications

2021-09-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143390

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143792] FORMATTING: Style changes not applied to specific cells with multiple selection

2021-09-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143792

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143604] Increasing wrap space by default when inserting an image

2021-09-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143604

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143842] [UI] Set a configurable default export parameters for exporting Draw objects

2021-09-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143842

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143551] LO Writer: navigator does not fold up unwanted items

2021-09-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143551

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 144196] Standard and advanced filters do not work correctly in case insensitive mode

2021-09-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144196

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 144195] UI: PNG export dialog has radio button doesn't allow 'dimensions' or 'DPI' to be set both

2021-09-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144195

--- Comment #7 from Telesto  ---
(In reply to xordevoreaux from comment #6)
> Demonstrably, from what I gather -- from off-hand comments I've seen planted
> on bug reports I've created -- is there is no great culture of graphics
> enthusiasts among the developers. Their biggest concern is the spreadsheet
> functionality. Everything else seems to be a side matter. There should be no
> reason why there are bug reports outstanding more than two years old.

There is a lack of developers in general.. And even more interest Draw :-(

However I do ask myself to what end does Draw exist. How it's supposed to be
used. I see it as a tool to create posters, flow diagrams (visio) etc. Which
you need to export to publish (also only on websites.. which makes images the
logical choice..). If you can't properly export, it becomes pretty much useless
(in my perception). You might convince me otherwise.. 

So sure LibreOffice Draw isn't GIMP, Paint.net. However I ask myself what the
initial goals where (mission/vision) was while developing Draw (except showing
off being able to create something like this). What was there intention? What
type of program where the mimicking (at least I assume that was the case?).
[Which can be used as reference of expected functionality] What was the
targeted audience? Note: I see Draw as more or less a spin-off of Impress. 

I my perception export being quite essential (including resolution and size).
And well layers & transparency pretty relevant to create posters too.

The 'IST' situation is clear, the 'SOLL' not so. Those are - without
development resource - only aspirations/idealizations. But well you need some
kind of vision to start with. 

And without such outlook (aspirations) it's really hard to discuses something
in meaningful way. I still think "LibreOffice is not a raster graphic
manipulation tool" being  rather evasive "half truth" and missing the point.
And being used as a clincher.  Exporting a vector to a raster graphic is pretty
normal thing to do, in my perception.

And regarding to export.. I'm pretty sure the backend is capable of handling
the export in the desired way.. It is mostly the GUI (and maybe some hidden bug
in the image export code)

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 144195] UI: PNG export dialog has radio button doesn't allow 'dimensions' or 'DPI' to be set both

2021-09-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144195

--- Comment #6 from xordevore...@gmail.com ---

> 
> ---
> I admit that the Export to Image functionality being pretty broken in
> general. Based on the amount of flaws, you start assuming people barely use
> it (as there not that many complains). Not sure if this the lack of interest
> in principle, of people avoiding to export? 
> 
> Not flyers and posters on websites are still published in PNG format.. And
> Draw kind of tool to create such stuff..

-

Oh, I've been complaining for years.  My bug for not being able to set a Draw
document's dimensions in pixels was dismissed as not a bug years ago.

Demonstrably, from what I gather -- from off-hand comments I've seen planted on
bug reports I've created -- is there is no great culture of graphics
enthusiasts among the developers. Their biggest concern is the spreadsheet
functionality. Everything else seems to be a side matter. There should be no
reason why there are bug reports outstanding more than two years old.

Best thing to ever happen would be if the Document Foundation hired the creator
of Paint.net, Rick Brewster, to undertake a a complete and comprehensive
from-the-ground-up overhaul of the raster processing in LibreOffice, starting
with the transparency treatment in MS Windows, and to finally build some
honest-to-God layering rather than what passes for layers now in LO (can't move
layers around, can't set transparency properties on layers, but I can still
paste content onto a locked layer, that's unique, oh, and hidden layers export
ANYWAY).

I like using open-source products, LibreOffice, GIMP, Digicam, Krita, and
Inkscape among them. And I'm vocal when they need improvement. 

This is one of those times.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 144165] Highlight the current line in Writer?

2021-09-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144165

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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--- Comment #6 from Heiko Tietze  ---
We discussed this topic in the design meeting and recommend to not implement.
Writer is meant to be WYSIWYG and changing the line color even slightly
contradicts this effort. Text editors provide this functionality very well.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 142121] Cell focus rectangle must not use font color

2021-09-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142121

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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--- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Using the highlight color now for the col/row header, the actual selection, and
- new in this patch - also the focused cell rectangle. Decided against an
option since later the system highlight color might become part of the
configuration itself and all places with a selection take the respective color.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 142121] Cell focus rectangle must not use font color

2021-09-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142121

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--- Comment #4 from Heiko Tietze  ---
*** Bug 142959 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 143956] Writer Templates are in Format Size A4 instead of Letter for Default - English (USA)

2021-09-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143956

--- Comment #7 from Laurent BP  ---
Created attachment 174720
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First set of new templates without page size

Could you test these templates and check that they work as expected: page size
is defined according to your locale settings?
Other enhancement are detailed in commit messages [1], [2] and [3]

[1] https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/121130
[2] https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/121175
[3] https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/121267

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