[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 148417] Change "X" icon in Print Preview to "X Close Preview" (like in Writer)

2022-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148417

--- Comment #2 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
Polite ping to check if this ticket should be registered as an EasyHack.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 148417] Change "X" icon in Print Preview to "X Close Preview" (like in Writer)

2022-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148417

sdc.bla...@youmail.dk changed:

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 148513] Poor nomenclature for Manual Break

2022-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148513

--- Comment #14 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
Type
  o Line Break

  Position of next line in paragraph:
Next line
After all objects
After all objects to right of cursor
After all objects to left of cursor


---

>From reading BZ entries, one learns that (some? many?) Eve users want the UI to
be "intuitive" or "self-explaining" -- without having to read the help. 

Here is a proposal that might satisfy Eve users and maybe not too bad for
Benjamin.

And I believe it would be easier to write accurate "help" pages in relation to
these options.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 148519] Change "Margin" to "Entire Frame" in "to" field for Vertical Position when anchoring "To frame" in Position and Shape tab

2022-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148519

--- Comment #1 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
Revised suggestion.   

   (for Type tab - Image):   Entire frame --> Frame border
  (for Position and Size tab - Shape):   Margin -> Frame border

Reasons:

1. "Frame border" may be the "standard" terminology.
2.  Border tab exists in Frame, so some users will know about Frame border.
3.  The Horizontal Position "to" field has "Left frame border" and "Right frame
border".  (best reason) because gives internal consistency to the dialogs, and
makes it easier to recognize likely meaning of "frame border" vs. "frame text
area".

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 141625] Calc Chart x-Axis Formatting

2022-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141625

Caolán McNamara  changed:

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Version|6.4.6.2 release |Inherited From OOo
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 148568] Rework the Sparklines dialog

2022-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148568

Roman Kuznetsov <79045_79...@mail.ru> changed:

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 148513] Poor nomenclature for Manual Break

2022-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148513

--- Comment #13 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
Created attachment 179527
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=179527=edit
test file to experiment with Left and Right

Have attached a test file (a paragraph with four shapes) that can be used for
testing.

How to play the game.  Place your cursor ANYWHERE in the paragraph. Use line
break, with LEFT or RIGHT.  Before clicking OK, predict what will happen.

Meanwhile ... started to think about what labels to use for "Left" and "Right".

If my rules are correct then the Restart position is:

Left = After all objects to left of cursor position
Right = After all objects to right of cursor position



Would the following be minimally acceptable in the dropdown box? 

Left objects
Right objects

In the context of the dialog box, you have chosen "Line break" and then click
in the "Restart position" dropdown box. The "cue" of "Left objects" is to
remind/highlight:  Objects to the left of the cursor position. 

The assumption is that after you have read the excellent help page and
understand how it works (or now I have more or less written possible extended
tooltips), then (a) you place your cursor in the paragraph where you want the
break, and (b) choose "Left objects", which reminds you -- all objects to the
left of the cursor.

Left/Right alone seems too minimal, because it does not remind that left/right
is about "objects in relation to cursor"

I guess that is my opinion for now.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 148513] Poor nomenclature for Manual Break

2022-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148513

--- Comment #12 from Miklos Vajna  ---
This sounds correct. This is meant to work with any kind of fly frames, so
anything other than as-char should work.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 148513] Poor nomenclature for Manual Break

2022-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148513

--- Comment #11 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
@Miklos  -- I was hoping you would tell me something like the following:

Left = Start next full line after ALL objects (anchored to paragraph) that have
some part horizontally to the left of current cursor position.  (If no parts of
objects are left of the cursor position, then break to next line).

Right  = Start next full line after ALL objects (anchored to paragraph) that
have some part horizontally to the right of current cursor position.  (If no
parts of objects are right of the cursor position, then break to next line).

Does that give a complete and accurate description of the expected behavior?  

(only tested with anchor "to paragraph"  Do these rules also apply with ”to
character” anchors?)

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 148513] Poor nomenclature for Manual Break

2022-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148513

--- Comment #10 from Miklos Vajna  ---
> 3. Are Left and Right really needed?

See the URL of this bug, I created screenshots to show how the left/right/all
cases differ when you have multiple images intersecting with a line of text.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 148513] Poor nomenclature for Manual Break

2022-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148513

--- Comment #9 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #8)
> How about:
> "Restart location"
How about:  Restart position  
  - because command is used to position text in relation to objects

> "[None]" -> "Next line"
Concur. Also in OP

> "Right" -> keep; 
> "Left" -> keep
Undecided. Diverges from OP. See question 3 below.

> "Next full line"
Concur. Also in OP.

Observations and questions.

1. In a "normal" text paragraph, all 4 options give exactly the same result.
(correct?)  => Help page should indicate that "Line break" "Next line" is
sufficient for introducing a line break in a text-only paragraph.

2. => Help should emphasize that the other options are only relevant when
positioning text in relate to embedded objects.

3. Are Left and Right really needed?

Place a shape or frame in the middle of a text. 
Place cursor in text to right of shape.
LB - "Next line" and LB - "Right" give same result.
LB - "Next full line" and LB - "Left" give same result.

I also tried two shapes (next to each other, with cursor in between) and with
cursor after the two shapes.  Miklos' blog gives impression that Left and Right
might be useful when there are shapes on the right side of the canvas?

So far it seems like everything that can be done with Left and Right, can also 
be done with Next Line (none) and Next Full Line.  What am I missing (in my
first encounter with LB, Left, Right, etc.)?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 148523] Table properties changes only a cell in Impress (full table expected)

2022-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148523

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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   Keywords|needsUXEval |

--- Comment #4 from Heiko Tietze  ---
So let's make Draw/Impress smart as well and apply an attribute to all
unformatted cells in the table in case of no cell selection.


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100366
[Bug 100366] [META] Impress/Draw table bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 148523] Table properties changes only a cell in Impress (full table expected)

2022-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148523

--- Comment #3 from Mike Kaganski  ---
I can see a value in making these unified; having similar behavior for similar
functionality is definitely good when it doesn't hurt. In Writer, the "apply to
selection" only works when cells are *selected*; otherwise, it applies to the
whole table. I would think that there would be little problem using the same
paradigm in any other module - it doesn't limit your possibilities.

Unless there is a pressing *huge* benefit of keeping current behavior, I
suggest to unify it (to make other modules follow Writer, not the other way
round, because Writer is most used).

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 148513] Poor nomenclature for Manual Break

2022-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148513

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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--- Comment #8 from Heiko Tietze  ---
How about:

"Restart location" - keep it; short and precise
"[None]" -> "Next line"; much better than [None] and sounds familiar to the
common LB
"Right" -> keep; short and precise enough with the title caption
"Left" -> keep
"Next full line" -> keep; short and makes the difference to "Next Line" clear

Seth, what do you think?

Code pointer: sw/uiconfig/swriter/ui/insertbreak.ui

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 148523] Table properties changes only a cell in Impress (full table expected)

2022-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148523

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Definitely not a bug. Writer tries to be smart and applies the formatting,
border and background, to the unformatted cells. Draw/Impress just apply to the
selected cell(s).

It could be interpreted as a feature because Draw/Impress are more likely used
for small-scale graphical changes while Writer is supposed to have a
homogeneous look and feel.

There is also bug 101802 talking about harmonization but there in respect to
the table style feature at the sidebar.

Mike, what's your take?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 148513] Poor nomenclature for Manual Break

2022-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148513

--- Comment #7 from Miklos Vajna  ---
MSO only has UI to insert the clear=all case. The ribbon has a Layout tab,
which has a Page Setup group, part of that is a Breaks dropdown. Inside that,
there is a Page Breaks section, and one item there is Text Wrapping.

(If you find it confusing that they present a line break inside a page break
section, you're not alone.)

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 148513] Poor nomenclature for Manual Break

2022-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148513

--- Comment #6 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Olivier Hallot from comment #0)
> "Restart location" -> "New line restart location"
> "[None]" -> "Next line"
> "Right" -> Next clear line on right
> "Left" -> Next clear line on left
> "Next full line" -> "Next Full Line"

Since the feature was implemented mainly for compatibility reasons we should
care about at least similar wording. What I found is [1] with the same
nomenclature as used now, [2] is not really informative. So how is it
implemented/named in MSO?

[1] http://officeopenxml.com/WPtextSpecialContent-break.php
[2]
https://www.officetooltips.com/word_365/tips/line_breaks_in_a_word_document.html

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 71991] FORMATTING: arrow end default sizes incoherent with "Synchronize end" checked by default

2022-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71991

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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--- Comment #8 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Some issues here: 
1) the "Synchronize Ends" checkbox is misleading - a lock icon between the two
controls would be better; or we disable one of the controls if synchronize is
checked
2) checking synchronize has no immediate effect on the two endings, meaning 0.2
/ 0.3 are still different unless one is changed - this might be solved by #1
3) setting an arrow via sidebar ends up with a different size - since
synchronize is not active by default this is not wrong but inconvenient; we
should use 0.3 cm by default

In a nutshell: move the checkbox between the controls and make it a toggle
icon, adjust the values when synchronize is checked, and change the default at
the sidebar.

Code pointers: cui/uiconfig/ui/linetabpage.ui and
cui/source/tabpages/tpline.cxx for the dialog; the sidebar is a bit tricky to
find, I'd start at .uno:LineEndStyle (called by the sidebar control) pointing
to SID_ATTR_LINEEND_STYLE which might be related to SID_ATTRIBUTES_LINE.. but
at this point I stopped digging the code. Maybe Hossein finds the place where
these 0.2cm are defined.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 140900] [Feature Request] A setting to change the size of the font previews dropdown

2022-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140900

--- Comment #17 from chameleonsca...@protonmail.com ---
Yes, that's the preview I was talking about in the following sentences. But
selecting text in a page and changing the font does the same thing, apart from
that updating issue with up and down arrows I mentionned.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 148519] Change "Margin" to "Entire Frame" in "to" field for Vertical Position when anchoring "To frame" in Position and Shape tab

2022-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148519

sdc.bla...@youmail.dk changed:

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Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148485
[Bug 148485] four options missing in "Position > Vertical > to" section for
Position and Size tab for Shape
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 140900] [Feature Request] A setting to change the size of the font previews dropdown

2022-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140900

--- Comment #16 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Created attachment 179507
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=179507=edit
Character properties

(In reply to chameleonscales from comment #15)
> Not sure how...

This preview

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 140900] [Feature Request] A setting to change the size of the font previews dropdown

2022-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140900

--- Comment #15 from chameleonsca...@protonmail.com ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #14)
> Maybe the preview of the character properties dialog helps here.

Not sure how, although this made me notice that, while the character properties
dropdown updates the preview as you arrow up and down, the one in the main
window doesn't update the selected text as you do the same. You have to hit
enter but then the focus gets out of the selector widget, so you have to use
your mouse again. Maybe that's what you were referring to and maybe that's
another issue to address for the main window.

> Project made a dev decision to hand over widget controls to the os/DE,
> stripping out ability to scale some selection of "individual" widget elements.

As I understand it, the blocking point is mainly that the toolbox can/should
only use regular widgets (e.g. a Combobox as GTK calls it), which I understand.

In that case, since other places in the UI have non-regular widgets/viewports,
e.g. the font preview in the Characters properties, maybe we could have a font
list with large previews there? The main idea of this issue is to not have to
see each font one by one but being able to see many fonts at once in all their
glory.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 86297] Wrong Field reference when heading is in a frame

2022-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86297

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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--- Comment #10 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Cannot wrap my mind around a frame with heading moved to some other position-
neither to have it in the header/footer area. Why the heck would you do that?
If the chapter needs to be present in the header a reference is the way to go.

So my first idea is to block outlines in special sections. But I see no clear
way to do so as it requires to block applying a style linked to an outline -
but no other style.

In respect to the sorting order at the Navigator we do wrong in either way. We
show in the Navigator somehow what you see in the document. Somehow since
"Chapter 1.1" comes before framed "Chapter One", which then contains 1.1.1 ff. 

Btw, use Tools > Chapter Numbering to get the true level.

Maike, Jim, what do you think?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 148465] Rework Sparklines's context menus

2022-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148465

andreas_k  changed:

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--- Comment #2 from andreas_k  ---
when the sparkline commands are context related commands, can it have a context
related notebookbar tab (like MSO)?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 140900] [Feature Request] A setting to change the size of the font previews dropdown

2022-04-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140900

--- Comment #14 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to chameleonscales from comment #12)
> ...resizeable previews which can get much larger than LO's dropdown (see
> attachment).

Thought you complain about the text itself  (expanded
widget) or the dropdown when collapsed in case of very long font names in mind.
But your point is to have a larger font size in the preview, which is better
for special fonts like this PaintyPaint.

I concur with Stuart's duplication verdict that points to the general solution
of a UI scaling. A larger font size comes on cost of readability and the
average use case is to pick one (sans / serif) font from the list. But
admittedly there are cases when the fancy stuff is used. Maybe the preview of
the character properties dialog helps here.

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