[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 149254] Make the selection behavior when double-clicking a word a user preference.

2022-06-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149254

--- Comment #11 from Chris  ---
Heiko Tietze, you are correct of course.  I'm looking for a consistent
experience that I can adjust to my needs.  If I could adjust it,
double-clicking a word would act like MS-Word which selects the word plus the
trailing space.  A delete or a backspace removes the word, plus the trailing
space.  Overtyping preserves the space, or more correctly, replaces the
trailing space.  There may be some other options, but this is something that
I've grown used to, and I'd prefer not to have to re-learn how to use the word
processor as I'm trying to write or edit a document.

Thanks for your consideration.  I don't want to add to bloat, and I really
don't want to complicate configuration menus, but this one feature would be
really helpful as I edit my writing.

Chris

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 149411] It's difficult to reach text area properties

2022-06-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149411

Rafael Lima  changed:

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 CC||rafael.palma.l...@gmail.com

--- Comment #3 from Rafael Lima  ---
Some of the options in the Text dialog (right-click the text inside the shape
and go to "Text attributes" could be on its own section in the Properties
sidebar.

The section could be named "Text Attributes" and we could have:
- Spacing to borders
- Wrap and resize options
- Number of columns and spacing between columns
- Effect (maybe)

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 149407] Proposal for slight change in position and label of controls in the Position dialog for objects

2022-06-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149407

Eyal Rozenberg  changed:

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   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14
   ||8593

--- Comment #2 from Eyal Rozenberg  ---
I guess Heiko is referring to what I wrote in bug 148593.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 149414] Change submenu label for formatting textboxes and shapes in Calc and Impress

2022-06-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149414

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 CC||momonas...@gmail.com

--- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze  ---
The Writer-specific command was introduced resp. derived from Generic with
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/20167/ for bug 91781. If all modules
use the same label you can just delete it from WriterCommands.

It was split in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/20630 probably to deal
with the fact that Draw/Impress has one more option.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 41542] FORMATTING: Allow "Spacing to contents" for edges without a line

2022-06-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41542

Justin L  changed:

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   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14
   ||9397

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 149414] Change submenu label for formatting textboxes and shapes in Calc and Impress

2022-06-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149414

--- Comment #2 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #1)
> I never struggled with "Object and Shape".
Ack. Reasons for change are:  (a) trying not to use the generic "object" in the
UI (in part because "object" ≠ "OLE object, such as noted in bug 149018) and
(b) consistency across modules. 

> .uno:ObjectMenue I guess. What is the difference between the two?
Edit > OLE Object (in all modules) is .uno:ObjectMenue  (e=Edit)

> it's in GenericCommands as
>   ~Object and Shape
That is what the patch in OP changed.

Alternative solutions:
1. Leave "Object and Shape" unchanged in Impress, and use that label in Calc as
well.

2. Leave "Object and Shape" unchanged in Impress, and make a pseudo .uno for
Calc with "TargetURL" with a different label (e.g., "Text Box and Shape")

No strong opinion in any direction, beyond the following main issue that
motivated this ticket:

- Calc should be changed (because Format > OLE Object is wrong.  
- The obvious .uno for Calc is in GenericCommands and used already in Impress.
- If consistency across modules is not important here, then maybe just take
the Alternative Solution 1.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 149411] It's difficult to reach text area properties

2022-06-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149411

--- Comment #2 from Eyal Rozenberg  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #1)
> If you have the (classic) toolbar in mind I disagree that all commands need
> to be present all the time. What else?

I somehow "misplaced" it in the main toolbar. So, I take back the claim that
it's missing. Still, I feel it doesn't stand out. Line spacing has its own
submenu, and so does "a bunch of actual text properties", bullets and numbering
has 2 top-level main menu items (a submenu and an item for opening the dialog)
- and all those are very well represented on the toolbars. Plus, we have two
menu top-level items for "Name" and "Description" (Why are those not together,
by the way? and Why is there both a title and a name?). But the padding is
relegated to an ambiguously relegated tab in a dialog on a submenu? Not fair.

The other claims stand; especially this being absent from the side-bar.

About the toolbars - if this was better available otherwise, adding this to the
main toolbar is not necessary, and the text formatting toolbar is not quite
quite the right place, so not sure about that.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 149407] Proposal for slight change in position and label of controls in the Position dialog for objects

2022-06-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149407

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 CC||eyalr...@gmx.com

--- Comment #1 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Eyal had a similar idea to make the content readable.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 149406] What is expected behavior of padding for characters, with and without borders?

2022-06-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149406

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 CC||mikekagan...@hotmail.com,
   ||vmik...@collabora.com

--- Comment #4 from Heiko Tietze  ---
The question is whether an object anchored horizontally left To Character and
vertically at the Bottom should follow the bottom padding/spacing of this
character. I'd say yes. 

Opening this document in MSO breaks the position of blue/aqua rectangles.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 149411] It's difficult to reach text area properties

2022-06-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149411

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 CC|heiko.tietze@documentfounda |libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   |tion.org|.freedesktop.org

--- Comment #1 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Context menu: Text Attributes...
Main menu: Format > Object and Shape > Text Attributes...
and at some of the Notebookbar variants

If you have the (classic) toolbar in mind I disagree that all commands need to
be present all the time. What else?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 126530] Tabbed Notebook Bar Usability Issues on Windows 10

2022-06-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126530

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org
 Status|REOPENED|NEW
   Keywords|needsUXEval |

--- Comment #8 from Heiko Tietze  ---
So let's keep it open as bug. We aim for a ticket per patch so the Continuos
integration can be linked to the reported issue. Does not work wit multiple
reports in one ticket. And the summary "usability issues" is nondescript too.
It will be hard to find volunteers.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 149414] Change submenu label for formatting textboxes and shapes in Calc and Impress

2022-06-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149414

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14
   ||9018

--- Comment #1 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to sdc.blanco from comment #0)
>(b) because the contents of its submenu are applied
>only to Text Boxes and Shapes.

Insert > Object > Formula - and change the background via this menu and Area.
Or set the position for a bar code.

I never struggled with "Object and Shape".


(In reply to sdc.blanco from comment #0)
>   2. Change in Calc, .uno:ObjectMenu to .uno:FormatObjectMenu 

.uno:ObjectMenue I guess. What is the difference between the two?

Btw, WriterCommands redefines uno:FormatObjectMenu

  Text Box and Shap~e

it's in GenericCommands as

  ~Object and Shape

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 135501] Change the default UI (summaries in comment 67, comment 89, comment 133)

2022-06-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135501

--- Comment #134 from John Mills  ---

> > Those who are not involved with LO development and news simply have not 
> > heard of it and the way to change it is not very prominent so that new 
> > users will easily learn that it exists.
> 
> Bug 137931 seems like the solution to that problem...

Hi Eyal, I think this is a very reasonable request and was raised a while back,
the interim solution was to highlight the UI availability as a tip of the day
dialog. While better than nothing it does not have the same emphasis as a user
choice on first startup.

@Heiko : Is this something that could be revisited while future work is
undertaken on the Tabbed UI?

Also to this point:

> To summarize, we more or less agree on the need to finalize the Notebookbar. 
> Stuart's task list in comment 110 could be a start to get developers' wisdom 
> into the discussion. Point is that we have a functionally pretty well-working 
> Standard UI and we should balance the effort for a Ribbon-like interface with 
> the benefit.

Possibly the comments in 110 should be the basis of a 2 step approach for a
longer term solution to aim for. However is there anything that could be done
in the short term so we do not have to wait months or years for discussion and
then developer support/funding? 

@Pedro makes a valid statement in comment 126.

> I am a proponent of the switch WHEN two blockers are solved:
> 1 - Extension support,
> 2 - Get a dev dedicated to work on the UI for proper support.

Is there anything that can be done to support this shorter term approach while
the longer term one is planned for?

Cheers,

John

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