[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 154795] Font selection pane offers choice of "language" - which isn't.

2023-05-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154795

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--- Comment #2 from Eyal Rozenberg  ---
(In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #1)
> The field there sets a language/country pair. If you select
> "English(Israel)" you get fo:language="en" and fo:country="IL".
> 
> You need this information, for example, to select the appropriate
> dictionaries, thesauri, hyphenation rules, and AutoCorrect entries.

... none of which are relevant when choosing a _font_. Changing a font should
have no effect on dictionaries, thesauri, hyphenation or autocorrect.

So, clearly, the choice of country should be placed somewhere closed to where
we control or configure the use of these features.


> Are you sure there exists items, which are not considered somewhere? For
> example, you can define your own AutoCorrect entries for each of the items
> in this 'Language' drop-down list.

Even if choosing a country is significant in some contexts, there is rarely a
need to choose a pair from the Cartesian product of language x country (as
opposed to local language variants).

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 155054] UI: Remediate frustration of unclear style names in style-name picklist contexts

2023-05-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155054

--- Comment #3 from R. Bingham  ---
FYI, this attachment/comment may show multiple times. I submitted it but it is
now not showing in Bugzilla when I re-query this bug 155054. 

Thanks. I volunteer edit a wide range of documents, accumulating my own library
of OTTs AND a library of 100s of styles (for all style types shown in
Navigator) across multiple OTTs. I have become very sensitive to the clunky
parts of the LO UI regards 'enterprise' style creation and curation for
consistency across OTTs. I dream of an enterprise database of LO styles I can
manage via a spreadsheet-like presentation for consistency and parameter-value
patterns across all my OTTs. Sigh...

In the meantime I must make do with the OTT by OTT, style-by-style tabbed-pane
GUI. Navigator is my friend. Inheritance is my friend for managing commonality
of parameter value sub-sets in tree children. The attached screenshot...

well, no, Bugzilla Attachment submission not working at the moment, so
laboriously re-create in text here

Heading
Appendix
 Hd VolSer 100 LOO LeftAlign Sans parent_only
  Hd VolSer 110 LOG LftA KeepNext Sans parent_only
   Hd VolSer 260 VS Vol L03 F/13_Mattr H FM_Title
   Hd VolSer 264 VS Vol LD4 F/13_Mattr L2
   Hd VolSer 268 VS Vol LOS F/B_Mattr L3
   Hd VolSer 320 VS Vol Wart L04 UB_I'vlattr LI
   Hd VolSer 330 VS Vol Wart L05 UB_Mattr L2
   Hd VolSer 510 VS Vol Wart 1-StorySet L04 StorySetTitle
   Hd VolSer 520 VS Vol Wart 1-StorySet L05 F/B_Mattr L1
   Hd VolSer 530 VS Vol Wart 1-StorySet LO6 F/B_Mattr L2
   Hd VolSer 610 VS Vol Wart 1-StorySet Story LOS StoryTitle L1
   Hd VolSer 620 VS Vol Vpart 1-StorySet Story LOS StoryTitle L2
   Hd VolSer 710 Vol Wart 1-StorySet Story Chap LD6 ChapTitle L1
  Hd VolSer 715 VS Vol Wart 1-StorySet Story Chap LO6 ChapTitle L1 AutoNbr
   Hd VolSer 720 VS Vol Vpart 1-StorySet Story Chap L06 ChapTitle L2 SubTitle
   Hd VolSer 730 VS Vol Vpart 1-StorySet Story Chap Anno L07 LO parent_only
  Hd VolSer 734 VS Vol Vpart 1-StorySet Story Chap Anna 1_07 L1
SubChapTitle
  Hd VolSer 740 VS Vol VPart 1-StorySet Story Chap Anno L08 L2 Topic
 Hd VolSer 740 Vol Wart 1-StorySet Story Chap Anno LOB L2 SH_Crono
  Hd VolSer 780 VS Vol Vpart 1-StorySet Story Chap Anna L10 L4 Char
  Hd VolSer 150 VS LO1 VolSerTitle
  Hd VolSer 210 VS Vol L02 VolTitle L1
  Hd VolSer 220 VS Vol 1_02 VolTitle L2 SubTitle
  Hd VolSer 310 VS Vol Wart L03 VpartTitle
  Hd VolSer L09 LftA Hdr def placeholder
 Heading 1

... shows a small part of one of my paragraph styles trees still evolving. Note
how I use 'parent only' styles not intended for actual doc use to both encode
key parameter value choices in the style name and as a holder of those values
for the children. Note how I have had to develop a hints encoding scheme for
the style terminal name for when it appears in a tabbed-pane flat picklist. The
encoding scheme not only hints at parameter values but also leverages the
style-name string sort that usefully happens in both picklist and Navigator
presentations. Building up this sort/grouping gives each style-name item a
surrounding context as an implicit additional hint of meaning. The encoding
burden on the terminal sytle-name could be much less in the Navigator
hierarchial view since the inheritance parents are there to also carry some of
the encoding in their names as well.

I note that Navigator does not offer inheritance for Pages, Lists, and Tables
styles. Sadness, and my next UI enhancement requests.

Regards.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 147680] Autotext replacement not willing to ignore space after shortcut

2023-05-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147680

--- Comment #9 from Eyal Rozenberg  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #8)
> I see no benefit to including the trailing space for the F3 Autotext
> shortcut handling

The benefit is that half the time I type an autotext entry key, I also type a
space, because I'm used to typing a space after every word.

>, and a serious downside of inadvertent replacements by
> allowing any non-exact matching.

But that's the whole point - it's not inadvertant - it's advertant! It is what
the user asked for.

> The AutoText dialog +F3 shortcut field does not allow/accept space (or
> other whitespace that I tried) for defining a AutoText passage.

Even better - that means that there is even less doubt about what the user
wanted.

Now, if someone were to proposed generalized fuzzy matching - that certainly
has downsides and I'd not make it the default behavior. Here we're talking
about a very specific case where user intent is clear.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 147680] Autotext replacement not willing to ignore space after shortcut

2023-05-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147680

V Stuart Foote  changed:

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--- Comment #8 from V Stuart Foote  ---
I see no benefit to including the trailing space for the F3 Autotext shortcut
handling, and a serious downside of inadvertent replacements by allowing any
non-exact matching.

The AutoText dialog +F3 shortcut field does not allow/accept space (or
other whitespace that I tried) for defining a AutoText passage.

Behaving as implemented.

-1 to any change, and otherwise => NAB

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 147680] Autotext replacement not willing to ignore space after shortcut

2023-05-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147680

Eyal Rozenberg  changed:

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--- Comment #7 from Eyal Rozenberg  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #6)
> Neither Dieter or me expect white-space being part of shortcuts.

Dieter said that in his opinion this could be an enhancement. So, not enough
grounds for closing this.

> Consider also the word finalization

Not sure what you mean by that.

> some procedures run like spell checking and auto correction. => NAB

I'm not sure how these things relate to my request.


When you've typed some text and press the autotext shortcut (F3), two things
can happen: A replacement, or nothing. Now, think about it: Why would I press
this shortcut unless I expect a replacement? That's my extremely-likely intent.
Now, if there's a "perfect" match for an autotext key in the preceding text,
there's no dilemma and you just replace. And if we have no idea what to replace
with, we shouldn't just guess. Also, if there are two entries which are just as
likely, one could also argue we shouldn't arbitrarily choose one. But - in this
case, we have a single candidate entry, and an extra space. What is more
likely? That I would rather LO not replace anything, or that what I want is for
the space to be elided?

You will be hard-pressed to claim the first response is what the user wants, or
expects.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 155054] UI: Remediate frustration of unclear style names in style-name picklist contexts

2023-05-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155054

V Stuart Foote  changed:

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Summary|UI: Remediate frustration   |UI: Remediate frustration
   |of opaque style names in|of unclear style names in
   |style-name picklist |style-name picklist
   |contexts|contexts
 CC||vsfo...@libreoffice.org

--- Comment #2 from V Stuart Foote  ---
slight edit to summary s/opaque/unclear -- on first read I'd assumed it was a
dark-mode rendering issue ;-)

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 154788] The default width of Calc columns should be a bit narrower

2023-05-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154788

--- Comment #30 from Rafael Lima  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #29)
> Asked of Mastodon [1] and 63% out of 408 people voted to keep the current
> width...

Thank you for the effort of considering this change =)

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 155054] UI: Remediate frustration of opaque style names in style-name picklist contexts

2023-05-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155054

Dieter  changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Dieter  ---
R. Bingham, thank you for the enhancement request. Topic A is related to the
combobox, while topic B is more genral about a more significant name of
paragraph styles. So perhaps it would be better to have two different bug
reports, but first let's add design-team for further input and perhaps
decision.

cc: Design-Team


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107833
[Bug 107833] [META] Writer paragraph style bugs and enhancements
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108346
[Bug 108346] [META] Writer paragraph style combobox control bugs and
enhancements
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 155169] Inconsistent behavior of Cmd+left/right arrow on macOS

2023-05-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155169

Telesto  changed:

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 155169] Inconsistent behavior of Cmd+left/right arrow on macOS

2023-05-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155169

Telesto  changed:

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