[Bug 158587] Improve column/row highlighting in Calc

2024-06-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158587

ady  changed:

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--- Comment #11 from ady  ---
*** Bug 161419 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Bug 158587] Improve column/row highlighting in Calc

2023-12-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158587

--- Comment #10 from Mike Kaganski  ---
(In reply to ady from comment #8)
> If we talk about seeing related data, Calc lacks the (basic) possibility of
> tracing precedents (and dependents) on cells located on other worksheets
> (tdf#63087); that's much more relevant and much more useful regarding
> related data IMO.

Additionally, this is a *wrong* idea. Tracking precedents / dependents is
completely orthogonal to the basic idea of tables as structured representation
of data: precedents / dependents allow to *build* the data, but not to *use* it
- because table represents records, with came type of data in each record in
the same position; each record having different data belonging to the same
entity. Seeing different pieces belonging to the same entity; or same data of
different entities - is the most important aspect of *tabular* representation.
Comapring apples to oranges, and calling aspects of *creating* tables "much
more useful" than aspects of *using* tables is counter-productive.

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[Bug 158587] Improve column/row highlighting in Calc

2023-12-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158587

--- Comment #9 from Mike Kaganski  ---
(In reply to ady from comment #8)
> Highlighting is useful for contrast, to bring attention to some area. Too
> much different highlighted areas would beat the goal, and can even be
> counterproductive.

Highlight is useful for whatever is useful for a user who enables the feature.
Multiselection is not a topic here yet, given that my wording was "with a
limitation of only simple case"; for simple case, there will be no more
"different highlighted areas" than with current implementation - only size of
the areas will be different.

> If we talk about seeing related data, Calc lacks the (basic) possibility of
> tracing precedents (and dependents) on cells located on other worksheets
> (tdf#63087); that's much more relevant and much more useful regarding
> related data IMO.

This is completely irrelevant. Please avoid such a bad thing as "let's not do
something that some person can easily do, just because I thikk there is also
another possible related improvement, not necessarily as easy or suitable for
the person who implemented *this* feature".

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[Bug 158587] Improve column/row highlighting in Calc

2023-12-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158587

--- Comment #8 from ady  ---
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #7)
> And the "see the related data" is a good reason to implement Roman's
> proposal

Highlighting is useful for contrast, to bring attention to some area. Too much
different highlighted areas would beat the goal, and can even be
counterproductive.

If we talk about seeing related data, Calc lacks the (basic) possibility of
tracing precedents (and dependents) on cells located on other worksheets
(tdf#63087); that's much more relevant and much more useful regarding related
data IMO.

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[Bug 158587] Improve column/row highlighting in Calc

2023-12-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158587

--- Comment #7 from Mike Kaganski  ---
(In reply to ady from comment #3)
> In the "simpler range" case, the "home" cell of the selection has its
> row+column highlighted, so the range is easily seen, not to mention it is
> all already highlighted by itself and at the row/column headers.

Note that the goal of the column/row highlight feature is not *finding* a
focused / selected cell: the real goal os to have an easy way to see the
*context* - i.e., the other cells in the same row and in the same column, like
headers, correspondig record data, and so on. Finding the cell is only a
not-really-important aspect here, with borders and cell highlichting and
row/column header highlighting already serving "find it" goal.

And the "see the related data" is a good reason to implement Roman's proposal;
with a limitation of only simple case - at least initially. Multi-selection
could *possibly* also use it - but that is debatable.

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[Bug 158587] Improve column/row highlighting in Calc

2023-12-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158587

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX

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[Bug 158587] Improve column/row highlighting in Calc

2023-12-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158587

--- Comment #6 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to m.a.riosv from comment #4)
> I'm with Ady

Me too. => NAB/WF

And I think it's not a good idea to switch the feature on/off depending on
range selection.

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[Bug 158587] Improve column/row highlighting in Calc

2023-12-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Buovjaga  changed:

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--- Comment #5 from Buovjaga  ---
So should the extra highlighting be deactivated in case multiple cells are
selected?

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[Bug 158587] Improve column/row highlighting in Calc

2023-12-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #4 from m.a.riosv  ---
I'm with Ady

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[Bug 158587] Improve column/row highlighting in Calc

2023-12-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158587

--- Comment #3 from ady  ---
FWIW, the additional row+column highlighting is supposed to help in easier
location of the cell that has the current focus.

Expanding the extra row+column highlighting to cover every selected range might
be counterproductive regarding the original goal of the feature.

IMO, the new optional row+column highlighting should be relevant for cell's
_focus_, not for range _selection_, which already has its own highlight, both
on the cell/range itself and on the row/column headers.

In the "simpler range" case, the "home" cell of the selection has its
row+column highlighted, so the range is easily seen, not to mention it is all
already highlighted by itself and at the row/column headers.

What would be expected to be highlighted if there are several non-contiguous
ranges selected? IMO, that would not be useful.

BTW, as an additional help for users, the traditional Name Box shows the cell
or range (either focused or selected).

I'm not convinced that expanding the row+column highlighting to the entire
selection would be an improvement; I'm worried it would be counterproductive.

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[Bug 158587] Improve column/row highlighting in Calc

2023-12-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158587

Roman Kuznetsov <79045_79...@mail.ru> changed:

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