[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 108600] Inconsistent background color painting

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--- Comment #10 from phv  ---
I just added a duplicate, but I would appreciate if this current report had a
better title to be more easily found by search engines:
"Paragraph format: Inconsistent display in space between paragraphs for area
fill"

Thank you!

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 108600] Inconsistent background color painting

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--- Comment #9 from Mike Kaganski  ---
*** Bug 129170 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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--- Comment #8 from phv  ---
*** Bug 118204 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 108600] Inconsistent background color painting

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Dieter  changed:

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 108600] Inconsistent background color painting

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--- Comment #7 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Michael, Miklos: a) change (with compatibility option for legacy documents;
guess many users understand this as a true option) following Regina's comment 3
or b) keep spacing (not margins) as part of the paragraph?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 108600] Inconsistent background color painting

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--- Comment #6 from Mike Kaganski  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5)

Personally I find this behavior inconsistent and hackish. We have spacing that
is covered by paragraph's background (and which now can be used without
borders). We have indents and spacing that isn't covered, and which has an
option to be not added between same-style paragraphs.

I can imagine a property of paragraph (style) similar to the new
"BackgroundFullSize" (bug 122508 - thanks Michael!). It looks reasonable and in
agreement with that extension - to be able to define if those areas around are
covered by background or not. But this automatic extension ... I'm against it
(but it exists, and no doubt there are documents using it - so if it hopefully
is removed, there's still a compat setting for those old documents).

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 108600] Inconsistent background color painting

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 108600] Inconsistent background color painting

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--- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze  ---
What's your take, Mike?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 108600] Inconsistent background color painting

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--- Comment #4 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Created attachment 173049
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=173049=edit
Screenshot

If the style continues on the following paragraph the area attributes are taken
into the spacing. Changing the color just one bit make the space white again.

I'm not so sure that this is an issue since the spacing is not a margin.
Otherwise we would get a blank space for double line spacing or indentation
too.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 108600] Inconsistent background color painting

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Dieter Praas  changed:

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 108600] Inconsistent background color painting

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Regina Henschel  changed:

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--- Comment #3 from Regina Henschel  ---
In the second case the rendering is wrong. A margin is _always_ transparent.

The wrong behavior has been introduced long time ago in OOo, when it was not
possible to have a padding without border line. But in the meantime LO has
implemented a padding without border line, so that now users can get the
desired effect by setting the margin to 0 and increasing the padding.

Similar problems are already handled in bug 106021 and bug 39756.

Nevertheless it is a question, how to make the UI, so that users get the
desired effect of continues color and at the same time follow ODF.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 108600] Inconsistent background color painting

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--- Comment #2 from Buovjaga  ---
(In reply to Dieter Praas from comment #1)
> I confirm this behaviour with LO 5.4.0.0beta2.
> 
> I agree, that this behaviour is inconsistent, but I also think, that in some
> cases this might be the result users want to get. But there are other cases,
> where it makes more sense, that the space is in white colour. So what would
> be a good solution?

Asking UX

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