[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 123607] UI: Choice of extra toolbars forgotten when switching to different view (e.g. NotebookBar)

2020-07-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123607

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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--- Comment #8 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Please file tickets for missing functionality at NBs (eg. the mentioned Track
Changes, if it's really missing).

Resolving this issue as WF - NB intentionally hide toolbars. Oups, it has been
resolved but reopened in the past. In this case I never touch the status.
Please resolve yourself.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 123607] UI: Choice of extra toolbars forgotten when switching to different view (e.g. NotebookBar)

2019-12-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123607

--- Comment #7 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Lars Jødal from comment #6)
> But third-party software exists that adds functionality to LO...

One of the GSoC projects this year made it possible to register at NB as well.
I haven't looked into the details and don't know if this require additional
effort from the extension supplier in terms of "if toolbarMode addToToolbar
else addToNotebook". And I think it is the duty of 3rd party tools to update
regularly and comply with modifications, might it the UNO engine or the UI.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 123607] UI: Choice of extra toolbars forgotten when switching to different view (e.g. NotebookBar)

2019-12-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123607

Lars Jødal  changed:

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 Resolution|NOTABUG |---
 Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED

--- Comment #6 from Lars Jødal  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5)
> Isn't the point of Notebookbars to not use toolbars?

Well, yes, but that is not necessarily an option. 

For toolbars native to LO, such as the Track Changes toolbar, it may be seen as
reasonable to expect this to be implemented. It will still require that all
such extra functions are incorporated in the Notebookbar. In that case, each
such missing functionality in Notebookbar should be registered as a bug, right?

But third-party software exists that adds functionality to LO through adding
toolbars. An example is the (free) reference software Zotero, which was part of
my example in comment 1. It took me quite some time to realize that Zotero
could still be used even though it does not incorporate itself in the
Notebookbar. Given that LO has changed, not the third-party software (Zotero in
this example), it seems fair to put the burden of the change on LO, not on the
third-party software.

For both native LO functionality and third-party additions, it seems to be case
of a single change (making Notebookbar continue to show toolbars not
implemented in the bar) versus changing each of the individual cases. Am I
overlooking anything in that statement?

I have taken the liberty to change the bug status to REOPENED (rather than
RESOLVED - NOTABUG). If anybody disagrees in my arguments above for continuing
to consider this a bug, please argue again why it is not a bug.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 123607] UI: Choice of extra toolbars forgotten when switching to different view (e.g. NotebookBar)

2019-12-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123607

andreas_k  changed:

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 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |NOTABUG

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 123607] UI: Choice of extra toolbars forgotten when switching to different view (e.g. NotebookBar)

2019-12-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123607

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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--- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Isn't the point of Notebookbars to not use toolbars? Like when inserting a
shape you get the Drawing toolbar with the standard UI but a special section at
the tabbed UI. And talking about track changes it just have to be implemented
in this layout. So my take => WFM (do not show toolbars by default; it can be
activated at any time) and GO (implement TC in NBs).

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