[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 130003] ALPHABETICAL INDEX: make it easier to index ranges of pages
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130003 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda |.freedesktop.org|tion.org Ever confirmed|0 |1 Keywords|needsUXEval | Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW --- Comment #13 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to R. Green from comment #11) > Such a big range would be tedious to index every page... That's convincing. Like Thomas I'd suggest to enhance the ToC creation dialog and have [ ] Combine identical entries (o) Use abbreviation, eg. 10ff. ( ) Use dash, eg. 10-13, 15 ( ) Show first and last page, eg. 10-15 [x] Case sensitive Currently the ff and - options are mutually depending, you can check one only if the other is off but also both can be off. Guess we can use the parent "Combine" for this state and go with radio buttons. Remaining question is whether such an index is possible at all. If we run into trouble with a round-trip to OOXML or ODF load/save with external programs, it requires enhancement of the format first. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 130003] ALPHABETICAL INDEX: make it easier to index ranges of pages
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130003 Thomas Lendo changed: What|Removed |Added CC||thomas.le...@gmail.com --- Comment #12 from Thomas Lendo --- Instead of changing the way to create a ToC, it would be easier to only have a checkbox in the ToC dialog for that. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 130003] ALPHABETICAL INDEX: make it easier to index ranges of pages
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130003 --- Comment #11 from R. Green --- (In reply to Dieter Praas from comment #8) > I'm not sure, if I understand it correct, but I think your idea is not about > displaying 1-10 of 1ff., but the way to create an index entry for the case, > that a topic is across several pages, but the topic itself (here "John") > doesn't appear on every page. In this case it would be nice to mark > beginning and end of the topic, that is discussed in the text. Am I right? I think you've got it, more or less. Take this example from the Chicago Manual of style (https://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/CHIIndexingComplete.pdf): "World War I 34-61" Such a big range would be tedious to index every page, but no problem if you only had to index the first and last page of the range. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 130003] ALPHABETICAL INDEX: make it easier to index ranges of pages
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130003 --- Comment #10 from Dieter Praas --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #9) > But if so, why? What's wrong with "1-3,5" in my example, is there any > standard that defines the index to show start and end instead the actual > page, and wouldn't this contradict the idea of an AI where you want to find > the exact page? I think the difference is 1-3,5 (= parts of text, where the word John appears) 1-5 (= part of text about John) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 130003] ALPHABETICAL INDEX: make it easier to index ranges of pages
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130003 --- Comment #9 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to Dieter Praas from comment #8) > mark beginning and end of the topic, that is discussed in the text. But if so, why? What's wrong with "1-3,5" in my example, is there any standard that defines the index to show start and end instead the actual page, and wouldn't this contradict the idea of an AI where you want to find the exact page? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 130003] ALPHABETICAL INDEX: make it easier to index ranges of pages
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130003 --- Comment #8 from Dieter Praas --- I'm not sure, if I understand it correct, but I think your idea is not about displaying 1-10 of 1ff., but the way to create an index entry for the case, that a topic is across several pages, but the topic itself (here "John") doesn't appear on every page. In this case it would be nice to mark beginning and end of the topic, that is discussed in the text. Am I right? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 130003] ALPHABETICAL INDEX: make it easier to index ranges of pages
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130003 --- Comment #7 from QA Administrators --- [Automated Action] NeedInfo-To-Unconfirmed -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 130003] ALPHABETICAL INDEX: make it easier to index ranges of pages
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130003 QA Administrators changed: What|Removed |Added Ever confirmed|1 |0 Status|NEEDINFO|UNCONFIRMED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 130003] ALPHABETICAL INDEX: make it easier to index ranges of pages
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130003 --- Comment #6 from R. Green --- P.S. If "Combine identical entries with f./ff." were checked, the program would, instead, check the "Start range" number and the "End range" number and adjust the display accordingly. i.e. Doe, John .. 1-2 becomes Doe, John . 1f. Doe, John .. 1-3 becomes Doe, John . 1ff. Doe, John .. 1-5 becomes Doe, John . 1ff. and so on. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 130003] ALPHABETICAL INDEX: make it easier to index ranges of pages
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130003 --- Comment #5 from R. Green --- Created attachment 157275 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=157275=edit Writer file with an index entry over a large page range I'll start again with another example. 1. Open the attached writer file. 2. Inspect the alphabetical index at the end, and notice the entry: Doe, John .. 1-10 This has been created by highlighting a target phrase on EVERY page from 1-10. Now imagine a new feature in which you could create the same alpha-index entry by highlighting a target phrase on page 1 and page 10 ONLY—no need to bother with intervening pages. This would obviously save time and reduce the number of index marks in the text. BTW, this only applies if "Combine with -" is checked in the "Type." It wouldn't affect the display if "Combine identical entries with f./ff." were checked. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 130003] ALPHABETICAL INDEX: make it easier to index ranges of pages
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130003 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Ever confirmed|0 |1 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO --- Comment #4 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to R. Green from comment #3) > All that is changing is the WAY that index terms are added. > ... > At present to index a range like 10-20 you have to find an entry term for > each page in the range! With the new method, you only need to index the > first and last pages. Please elaborate on the use case. If "John Doe" is mentioned on p1 why not adding this to the alphabetical index? At least this is what I understand from "create a ToC for a range of pages". -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 130003] ALPHABETICAL INDEX: make it easier to index ranges of pages
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130003 R. Green changed: What|Removed |Added Ever confirmed|1 |0 Status|NEEDINFO|UNCONFIRMED --- Comment #3 from R. Green --- To clarify: All that is changing is the WAY that index terms are added. The options in "TOC … > Type" remain as before: i.e. to display the index in page numbers, page ranges, or f. (two consecutive pages) and ff (more than 2 consecutive pages). At present to index a range like 10-20 you have to find an entry term for each page in the range! With the new method, you only need to index the first and last pages. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 130003] ALPHABETICAL INDEX: make it easier to index ranges of pages
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130003 --- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze --- Created attachment 157192 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=157192=edit Example dummy text with an index Reading the request again I wonder what exactly you do and what you want to achieve. In the example, I added the dummy text (dt+f3), changed the first He into John, copied everything a couple of times, and used the Insert > ToC > Index Entry dialog to tag all John per checking "Apply to all similar texts". The index shows now "John... 1ff" or "John 1f, 4,5" depending on the page height. What I understand is that you want John on pages 10-20 of a larger document tpo be shown in an index. Or do you want ff (has been replaced recently by pp, btw.) to be replaced by 1-x? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 130003] ALPHABETICAL INDEX: make it easier to index ranges of pages
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130003 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added CC||rb.hensc...@t-online.de Ever confirmed|0 |1 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO --- Comment #1 from Heiko Tietze --- Regina, is that possible with current ODF? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 130003] ALPHABETICAL INDEX: make it easier to index ranges of pages
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130003 Dieter Praas changed: What|Removed |Added CC||dgp-m...@gmx.de, ||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists ||.freedesktop.org Blocks||89606 Keywords||needsUXEval Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89606 [Bug 89606] [META] Table of Contents and Indexes bugs and enhancements -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
