[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 133984] Enhancement: Support for real-time, synchronous collaborative editing in LibreOffice (desktop)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133984 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda |.freedesktop.org|tion.org, ||michael.me...@collabora.com Keywords|needsUXEval | --- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze --- "Real-time, synchronous collaborative editing" sounds a bit far-fetched and really covered by LOOL. But in other words you want CMIS and versioning with a git-like workflow, actually Svante's work. That would be definitely great (see also bug 86433), although I would expect the integration to be server-side aka Git. And there is bug 76318 requesting more or less the same. => DUP -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 133984] Enhancement: Support for real-time, synchronous collaborative editing in LibreOffice (desktop)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133984 --- Comment #4 from Gerry --- (In reply to Aron Budea from comment #3) > (In reply to Gerry from comment #2) > If there are features missing from LibreOffice Online that'd be important > for certain kinds of professional work, wouldn't it make more sense to add > those instead? For complex documents and spreadsheets, online office suites (including LibreOffice Online) are no real option and will not be for a very long time (or maybe never). LO Online needed no less than all the features of LibreOffice desktop while having no time-lag, offline-working capabilities and full interoperability with files saved/opened locally. The following scenario is no future scenario, but everyday office life; actually it is a very typical case: A colleague uploads the draft of a report to MS OneDrive (e.g. 200+ pages with full layout, several tables of contents (headings, figures, tables), several chapters with dozens of tables, figures/drawings, cross-references and hundreds of bibliographic references), and annexes. Five persons collaboratively work in MS Word desktop on this same shared document: One person reworks some chapters and copies lots of prepared and layouted text into these chapters and partly works offline on the document during a train ride, syncing changes back later. The second person improves the figures and tables and has to copy lots of stuff from local MS Excel and MS Powerpoint files and several images from the local file system. The third person reworks the bibliographic references with Zotero. The fourth person works on layout and table of contents. The fifth person does proof-reading and adds comments and changes in the track changes mode. Therefore, I am very surprised that you don't consider collaborative editing an important feature for a desktop office suites. In the 2020s, IMHO this is a must for any desktop office suite to be suitable for enterprises and professional team work. These are typical requirements that need the fidelity and feature-richness of a desktop office suite: * Working with large, complex documents or big spreadsheets. * High performance and no time lag with such large documents and spreadsheets. * Full interoperability with files (documents, spreadsheets, drawings, images) that are saved locally, i.e. edit with external program; import/insert & export/save; copy & paste. * Ability to work offline on the shared document/spreadsheet and sync back the changes later when online. * Navigating and copy & pasting between several sections of a document, but also from other documents or objects from other office modules (tables from Calc, drawings from Draw, etc.) * Ability to use LibreOffice extensions such as the bibliographic software Zotero. * Ability of open several windows of the same file showing different sections next to each other. * Ability to collaboratively work with files that are hosted on file sharing systems such as MS OneDrive, MS Sharepoint or others (i.e. there is no LO Online). LibreOffice desktop is perfectly suited for complex documents like that, but it unfortunately does not support collaborative editing. In this regard, LibreOffice desktop substantially lags behind the competition of MS Office. This is sad, because LibreOffice is superior in so many ways when dealing with complex documents. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 133984] Enhancement: Support for real-time, synchronous collaborative editing in LibreOffice (desktop)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133984 --- Comment #3 from Aron Budea --- (In reply to Gerry from comment #2) > I do not agree with you simply referring to LO Online for collaborative work > and disregarding LibreOffice desktop. > (1) In a professional setting (e.g. working on complex documents in a team), > users need a full-fledged/featured office suite *and* need to > collaboratively work on such documents. The competition (MS Word, to a > lesser extent Excel, Powerpoint) can do that and and this is an essential > and very important feature for working groups. If there are features missing from LibreOffice Online that'd be important for certain kinds of professional work, wouldn't it make more sense to add those instead? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 133984] Enhancement: Support for real-time, synchronous collaborative editing in LibreOffice (desktop)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133984 --- Comment #2 from Gerry --- (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #1) > Whoa there fella! LO Online is the path for collaborative work--LO Desktop > is not. Plain and simple! > > Not worth the continued dev effort this would require--and this gets my > immediate -1, with a strong push to set => WF > > And, this really is a dupe of bug 73831 which likewise should be closed WF. Thanks @vstuart for looking into this enhancement request. I do not agree with you simply referring to LO Online for collaborative work and disregarding LibreOffice desktop. (1) In a professional setting (e.g. working on complex documents in a team), users need a full-fledged/featured office suite *and* need to collaboratively work on such documents. The competition (MS Word, to a lesser extent Excel, Powerpoint) can do that and and this is an essential and very important feature for working groups. (2) There are two use-cases for collaborative editing: Real-time collaboration and synchronization of changes (e.g. done offline). Both are equally important and IMHO it should be a goal to support both in LibreOffice. BTW, this bug is not a duplicate of bug 73831, as that one refers only to Writer. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise
[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 133984] Enhancement: Support for real-time, synchronous collaborative editing in LibreOffice (desktop)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133984 Gerry changed: What|Removed |Added Summary|Enhancement: Support for|Enhancement: Support for |real-time, synchronous |real-time, synchronous |collaborative editing in|collaborative editing in |LibreOffice |LibreOffice (desktop) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-ux-advise mailing list Libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-ux-advise