[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138640] Page break before/after terminology kind of confusing

2021-01-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138640

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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--- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze  ---
I think your finger is creating the flaw. The paragraph format includes a break
either before or after. Don't see why this terminology needs to be changed. 

=> NAB (guess Regina suggests the same)

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138640] Page break before/after terminology kind of confusing

2020-12-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138640

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138640] Page break before/after terminology kind of confusing

2020-12-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138640

Regina Henschel  changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Regina Henschel  ---
You should look which methods ODF provides to generate a sequence of pages from
the content of a text document.

One method is the use of a master page. Paragraph style and table style can
have an attribute 'style:master-page-name'. Each time the style is applied (for
paragraphs not inside tables), it inserts a page break before the paragraph or
table and the specified master page is used from there on. "style applied"
includes named styles (from the Styles pane of the Sidebar) and automatic
styles (direct formatting) as well.

A second method is use of the attributes 'fo:break-after' and
'fo:break-before'. These attributes are mainly used in tables, but may be used
outside of tables too. In fact 'Ctrl+Enter' uses the attribute
'fo:break-before'. Possible values besides 'page' are 'column' and 'auto'.
These attributes have no relationship to a master page.

A combination of 'fo:break-after' with master-page-name is technical
impossible. The UI reflects this only partly. If you select 'after' in list
'Position', then the checkbox 'with page style' is correctly disabled. But the
other way round, if you check 'with page style' the list 'Position' is not
disabled. That could be improved. I mean, if 'with page style' is checked, the
list 'Position' should be disabled, but still show the value 'Before'.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138640] Page break before/after terminology kind of confusing

2020-12-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 138640] Page break before/after terminology kind of confusing

2020-12-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138640

Telesto  changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Telesto  ---
Lets do another round on the page-break topic. FWIW: i'm only attempting to put
a finger on a flaw which is context depended..

So they dialog makes some sense inserting a page break using - Format ->
Paragraph Style -> Text Flow -> Insert paragraph..

However the dialog becomes rather confusing if page break already present.. So
after/before being irrelevant in my perception. 
And of course dialog makes again sense for configuring styles.. 

However would appreciated if we could think about the design again, if
something can be done to improve things.

However not sure how much flexibility there is with shared code/dialog. Say if
it's possible to - for example - disable before/after for present page break
(so can only be configured if setting a new one or configuring a page style..
[Only some thing crossing my mind, without deep thoughts]

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