[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 141692] When Tabbed interface is applied to all apps, you still have to enter each app to turn on or off the MenuBar individually instead of applying to all.

2022-10-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141692

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org
   Keywords|needsUXEval |

--- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Accessibility is one missing feature and handled in bug 109425. The MUFFIN
variants are hard-coded and not editable, discussed in bug 148121. The menubar
is intentionally off in some variants, such as the Tabbed. We could show the
main menu on demand/F10, as requested in bug 107343. 

I see no reason to keep this ticket open (although the issue is clear).

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 141692] When Tabbed interface is applied to all apps, you still have to enter each app to turn on or off the MenuBar individually instead of applying to all.

2022-09-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141692

--- Comment #4 from JackDeth  ---
(In reply to Roman Kuznetsov from comment #1)
> So, do you want an opportunity to menu bar in Tabbed UI enable for all
> modules at once? 
> 
> My PoV here -> we shouldn't have the menu bar in Tabbed UI at all, but
> should have the opportunity to change UI to another by only one icon
> pressing 
> 

I disagree. I work in a computer shop and we install LO of all new computers we
sell to customers so they have a good office suite and so they don't have to
buy into the Microsoft monopoly. However, some customers prefer the "old
school" interface of a traditional menu, while others prefer the "ribbon bar"
or Tabbed interface. 

In many cases we have a husband and wife who use the same computer and one
prefers one style and the other the other style, but don't want to have to
change it every time they open the program.

Some folks, like myself, prefer to have both options so we can choose
immediately how we want to access certain tools without having to switch
interfaces. It's like having the best of both worlds at the same time.

My issue is not a matter of choosing one over the other. The issue is that if
you turn on the Menubar, you can't just turn it on in all modules at once (ie.
Writer, Calc, Impress) like you can when you turn on the Tabbed Interface.
There is no "Apply To All" button. You have to turn it on separately in each
module once the Tabbed Interface is active by going to the "View" tab in each
module and clicking "Menubar".

I would like to see an "Apply To All" or "Apply Menubar To All" button when
enabling the Menubar so it applies to all modules at once.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 141692] When Tabbed interface is applied to all apps, you still have to enter each app to turn on or off the MenuBar individually instead of applying to all.

2022-09-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141692

V Stuart Foote  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu
 Resolution|DUPLICATE   |---
   Keywords||accessibility
 Blocks||107316
 Status|RESOLVED|UNCONFIRMED
   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10
   ||7343,
   ||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10
   ||9425

--- Comment #3 from V Stuart Foote  ---
More than just a customization/layout issue. Also a major accessibility issue.

All modes of the MUFFIN Notebook bar suffer from suppression of base Assistive
Technology navigation -- F10 does not open the Main menu, and F6 movements are
silent.

For a user requiring AT, stumbling into the Notebook bar MUFFIN modes is a
quagmire, exposing the main menu when it happens a lifeline.

See bug 107343 and bug 109425


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107316
[Bug 107316] [META] Notebookbar Accessibility (a11y)
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 141692] When Tabbed interface is applied to all apps, you still have to enter each app to turn on or off the MenuBar individually instead of applying to all.

2022-09-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141692

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE

--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze  ---
The "Tabbed" flavor, for example, has no menu bar by default. Applying this
variant to all modules will switch the main menu off. What you ask for is a
configuration of the variant, requested in bug 148121. I doubt we can do it
easily.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 148121 ***

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 141692] When Tabbed interface is applied to all apps, you still have to enter each app to turn on or off the MenuBar individually instead of applying to all.

2022-09-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141692

Roman Kuznetsov <79045_79...@mail.ru> changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords||needsUXEval
 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org
 Whiteboard| QA:needsComment|
 Blocks||107237

--- Comment #1 from Roman Kuznetsov <79045_79...@mail.ru> ---
So, do you want an opportunity to menu bar in Tabbed UI enable for all modules
at once? 

My PoV here -> we shouldn't have the menu bar in Tabbed UI at all, but should
have the opportunity to change UI to another by only one icon pressing 

Added UX-team for discussing


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107237
[Bug 107237] [META] Notebookbar Tabbed
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