[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 147286] ‘Default Paragraph Style’ should be renamed ‘Basic’

2022-02-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147286

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
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   Keywords|needsUXEval |

--- Comment #4 from Heiko Tietze  ---
But 
* shorter PS names have no benefit
* sorting is relevant only for lists, not the hierarchical view; and B won't be
the first anyway
* being "Basic" has no implicit meaning, does not mean "parent of something",
is misleading with macros in mind, and the renaming would be confusing to long
term users
* other office suites call it "Default" as well

Won't close reopened tickets but UX input has been given.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 147286] ‘Default Paragraph Style’ should be renamed ‘Basic’

2022-02-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147286

tor...@yahoo.com changed:

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 Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED
 Resolution|WONTFIX |---
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #3 from tor...@yahoo.com ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #1)
> The "Default Paragraph Style" is just a random style on top of all other (if
> you don't configure another top-level style). We put some effort recently
> into the renaming of "Default" into their specific name like "Default Page
> Style".

On freshly-installed Writer, A ‘New’ writer document has no template,
according to File>Properties>Template: blank. In fact, the document starts with
a nameless template which has many styles, including the so-called Default
Paragraph Style, which is no more ‘default’ than the others.
The nameless template will serve as default template until User defines
her|his own (File>templates>Manage; right-click any template, choose
Set_as_Default). User could set this new default template to open with any
style, eg, Heading1 if he|she often writes chapters in a book; would that make
Heading1 the new default style?
In conclusion, there is a default template, but there is NO ‘default’
paragraph style. The so-called Default Paragraph Style can be renamed ‘Basic’
(because it serves as parent and grand-parent for many other styles), and
should not even have the misleading privilege to be first in an alphabetical
list of styles.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 147286] ‘Default Paragraph Style’ should be renamed ‘Basic’

2022-02-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147286

V Stuart Foote  changed:

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--- Comment #2 from V Stuart Foote  ---
concur, -1

=> WF

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 147286] ‘Default Paragraph Style’ should be renamed ‘Basic’

2022-02-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147286

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED

--- Comment #1 from Heiko Tietze  ---
The "Default Paragraph Style" is just a random style on top of all other (if
you don't configure another top-level style). We put some effort recently into
the renaming of "Default" into their specific name like "Default Page Style". 

"Basic" would be another random name. While shorter it is less clear, is
associated with macros, and ultimately the opposite of bug 47295 to make Text
Body the default - not in terms of what is on top of the tree but what is used
for new pagraphs.

Putting all together => WF.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 147286] ‘Default Paragraph Style’ should be renamed ‘Basic’

2022-02-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147286

Telesto  changed:

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