[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 151170] Need mechanism for re-centering "Slides pane" onto current slide with edit focus

2022-10-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Heiko Tietze  changed:

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--- Comment #18 from Heiko Tietze  ---
We discussed the topic in the design meeting.

Usually there are some indicators of the currently active slide. First of all,
the thumbnail is highlighted but we also show the "Page n of m" information in
the left-most panel of the statusbar. 

The proposed UNO command extends the UNO API unnecessarily, and pressing some
key combinations would be quite unusual anyway. Adding a button to the slide
panel, for example next to the close button (x), has an acceptable low impact
on the UI.

But the issue actually happens when the slide loses focus, eg. by clicking
white space in the slide sorter. Then both information are gone (the slide pane
highlighting is still okay on Windows and Linux/kf5 with a clear blue frame).

So what we should do is to a) always show the statusbar information what slide
is active, and b) have no white space in the slide panel.

Recommendation is to change the summary into "Keep active slide in focus". 

(Leaving status unconfirmed for the current "re-center the list" request that
is rather WF.)

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 151170] Need mechanism for re-centering "Slides pane" onto current slide with edit focus

2022-10-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Cor Nouws  changed:

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Summary|[UI] The "Slide Pane"   |Need mechanism for
   |doesn't have a clear focus  |re-centering "Slides pane"
   |with the current slide in   |onto current slide with
   |the center  |edit focus

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 151170] Need mechanism for re-centering "Slides pane" onto current slide with edit focus

2022-10-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #17 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #16)
> (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #2)
> > The Left Pane is incorrectly referred to as the 'Slide Sorter'. That
> > labeling is for a specific editing "view mode" of the Impress workspace--not
> > available in Draw. 
> > 
> > And the LO help even has the toggle article named "slidesorter.html" adding
> > to the confusion, and that all could probably be clarified.  @Olvier, Seth?
> 
> It seems like you want to file a separate bug about this point?

Sure, done as bug 151347

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 151170] Need mechanism for re-centering "Slides pane" onto current slide with edit focus

2022-10-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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V Stuart Foote  changed:

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2022-10-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #16 from Eyal Rozenberg  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #2)
> The Left Pane is incorrectly referred to as the 'Slide Sorter'. That
> labeling is for a specific editing "view mode" of the Impress workspace--not
> available in Draw. 
> 
> And the LO help even has the toggle article named "slidesorter.html" adding
> to the confusion, and that all could probably be clarified.  @Olvier, Seth?

It seems like you want to file a separate bug about this point?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 151170] Need mechanism for re-centering "Slides pane" onto current slide with edit focus

2022-09-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #15 from Heiko Tietze  ---
While the highlighting should be sufficient for identifying the currently
active slide it has apparently some bugs as reported in bug 90652 (not
confirming myself) and bug 92254 (confirming). Bug 78848 requests a focus where
the slide before and after is shown. And bug 100876 is about accessibility.

The meta ticket probably holds more relevant information.

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2022-09-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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2022-09-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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2022-09-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Heiko Tietze  changed:

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2022-09-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Heiko Tietze  changed:

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2022-09-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Heiko Tietze  changed:

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 151170] Need mechanism for re-centering "Slides pane" onto current slide with edit focus

2022-09-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #14 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to Timur from comment #12)
> (In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #10)
> > (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #9)
> > > You can use the tab key to refocus the list.
> > 
> > I can also use the mouse to refocus the list, but that's the problem... I
> > want to change the position on the list without carefully scrolling to the
> > right position.
> 
> Tab key focuses to the slide in use, without scrolling, if mouse is in Slide
> Pane.
> It seems to fit the need explained here.  
> But it may not be obvious for a user. 
> 

No, on Windows at least, returning focus to the Slide pane the  does not
reposition the view to show active--and doing the refocus risks bumping the
active slide/page as noted. 

A deficiency given that the ,  and cursors  will
re-position the Slide with focus into the pane.  What is missing is an ability
to first focus into the Slide pane, and then to reposition the slide list
without bumping it off the slide with active edit focus.

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2022-09-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Heiko Tietze  changed:

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2022-09-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #13 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Timur from comment #12)
> Heiko, please mark NotABug with that explanation or confirm with some of the
> proposals.

Will do but my opinion is just one drop of water in the ocean.

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2022-09-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #12 from Timur  ---
(In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #10)
> (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #9)
> > You can use the tab key to refocus the list.
> 
> I can also use the mouse to refocus the list, but that's the problem... I
> want to change the position on the list without carefully scrolling to the
> right position.

Tab key focuses to the slide in use, without scrolling, if mouse is in Slide
Pane.
It seems to fit the need explained here.  
But it may not be obvious for a user. 

Heiko, please mark NotABug with that explanation or confirm with some of the
proposals. 
A double-click on the status bar slide number indicator seems fine for me.

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2022-09-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #11 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #10)
> I want to change the position on the list without carefully scrolling to the
> right position.

Why not (also) scroll to the beginning/end of the list, some "favorite"
slide/page, jump to a slide/page by name, sort by size... hope you get my
point. The list is simple, efficient, and familiar in use. Adding complexity is
detrimental to usability.

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2022-09-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #10 from Eyal Rozenberg  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #9)
> You can use the tab key to refocus the list.

I can also use the mouse to refocus the list, but that's the problem... I want
to change the position on the list without carefully scrolling to the right
position.

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2022-09-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #9 from Heiko Tietze  ---
You can use the tab key to refocus the list.

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2022-09-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #8 from Eyal Rozenberg  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #7)
> NO it is strictly a feature request for the Slide / Page pane -- which
> technically is a list as Heiko notes.

Stuart is exactly right.

(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #3)
> Do we talk about what slide is the currently active - which is clearly shown
> in the slides bar by highlighting

Ah, but it isn't always. That is, the currently active slide is only shown in
the slides bar if its scroll position is close enough to the slide's position.

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2022-09-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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V Stuart Foote  changed:

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 Resolution|NOTABUG |---
 Status|RESOLVED|UNCONFIRMED

--- Comment #7 from V Stuart Foote  ---
NO it is strictly a feature request for the Slide / Page pane -- which
technically is a list as Heiko notes.

Nothing at all to do with Zoom of the currently active slide/page!

Read the description, and its blocking of bug 102283

The request is for a means to control the list of slides/pages to position the
list view to the active slide/page without risk of changing onto a different
slide.

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2022-09-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Timur  changed:

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |NOTABUG

--- Comment #6 from Timur  ---
I also understood that View > Zoom > Entire Page is what's described here. 
Let's close. Note bug 38164.

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--- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #4)
> Issue is that an imprecise click-hold of the scrollbar thumb can too easily
> change selection of the active slide in Impress (or page in Draw). 

Like in any other list. With the difference that the slide/page is large and
clearly highlighted. -1 from my side.

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V Stuart Foote  changed:

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 Status|NEEDINFO|UNCONFIRMED
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--- Comment #4 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #3)
The Slides pane, obviously.

Issue is that an imprecise click-hold of the scrollbar thumb can too easily
change selection of the active slide in Impress (or page in Draw). 

For Presentations (or Drawings) with more than a few slides it can be very
disruptive to have to reidentify and position to the slide (or drawing page)
you were working on.

This additional UNO control to re-center the pane without risk of bumping the
focus onto another slide would be useful assigned to a menu, a context menu or
a keyboard shortcut.

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Timur  changed:

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   Priority|medium  |low
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--- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Do we talk about what slide is the currently active - which is clearly shown in
the slides bar by highlighting - or about the slider canvas that you can center
with View > Zoom > Entire Page. Don't see need for more interactive controls.

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V Stuart Foote  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|Need mechanism for  |Need mechanism for
   |re-centering slide pane |re-centering "Slides pane"
   |(slide sorter) on current   |onto current slide with
   |slide   |edit focus

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