[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 151223] let's drop "bold" and "italic", and assign CRTL+B to "strong", CRTL+i to emphasis

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151223

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE

--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Stuart resolved your duplicate bug 118979 as NAB.

You can a) easily achieve it with the customization dialog (consider to store
the configuration in a template). And b) since you agree that many users don't
understand the difference between DF and CS, such a move wouldn't be accepted. 

We support and promote use of the CS however with the "Formatting (Styles)"
toolbar (see bug 106781).

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 118979 ***

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 151223] let's drop "bold" and "italic", and assign CRTL+B to "strong", CRTL+i to emphasis

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151223

V Stuart Foote  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
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   ||vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu
   Keywords||needsUXEval
 Blocks||108816

--- Comment #1 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Not seeing an advantage to the pain this would cause.

There are 4 UNO commands in this context--but there are other DF that have not
corresponding ODF appropriate styles defined.

.uno:Bold  --> this is the +b shortcut (localized and customizable)
.uno:Italic --> this is the +i shortcut (localized and customizable)

.uno:EmphasisCharStyle 
.uno:StrongEmphasisCharStyle

The first two are resident on the 'Formatting' toolbar and need the
.uno:ResetAttributes assigned to +M to clear direct formatting with
selection, or toolbar button action to directly toggle.

The second two are resident on the 'Formatting (Styles)' toolbar. Along with
the 
.uno:DefaultCharStyle which allows reset of selection to paragraph's default
styles.

Issues come in the resulting ODF archive (the actual document), direct
formatting as Bold or Italic is recorded directly into the text runs (within
T1, T2, T3... notations) in the content.xml

While when the character style (Strong or Emphasis) is applied, those is
defined as a style (in style.xml)  that is then applied to the text runs
(either as 'Standard' for the paragraph, or integrated with T1, T2, T3...
direct formatting spans).

Not much of an issue with a document prepared purely using styles--but major
issues with import/export filtering to non-ODF formats and horrible fidelity
issues for OOXML interoperability with MS Office users.

So, if *you* need it--customize your Keyboard and Toolbar (Tools -> Customize)
and assign the CharStyle commands as you need.  But IMHO I don't think it would
be helpful to change the action assignments for the shortcuts by default to be
the CharStyle.


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108816
[Bug 108816] [META] Writer toolbar bugs and enhancements
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