[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 62851] UI: Shapes without name cannot be selected via Navigator

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Heiko Tietze  changed:

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--- Comment #15 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Please add keyword needsUXEval and CC
libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org if input from UX is needed.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 62851] UI: Shapes without name cannot be selected via Navigator

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 62851] UI: Shapes without name cannot be selected via Navigator

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Jean-Baptiste Faure  changed:

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--- Comment #14 from Jean-Baptiste Faure  ---
From comment #13, changed from enhancement to normal.

Best regards. JBF

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 62851] UI: Shapes without name cannot be selected via Navigator

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--- Comment #13 from Muhammet Kara  ---
After taking a quick look into this, I would see it as a real bug rather than
an enhancement request.

Dev notes for anyone interested to take this on:

The unnamed shapes cannot be selected because the inner implementation uses the
shape name as a reference, and constructs & uses a bookmark out of it. So if a
shape is unnamed, it is displayed with a name like "Shape X", which is not
actually its name, and this results in a broken link/bookmark.

One of the possible solutions might be sending the pointer of the object (after
converting it into a string, and wrapping in an SfxStringItem) instead of its
name. And getting the pointer to the object at the destination, by converting
it back to a pointer.

This is where the bookmark is constructed: sd/source/ui/view/drviewsd.cxx:124
(else if (nSId == SID_NAVIGATOR_OBJECT))

You may check sfx2/source/doc/autoredactdialog.cxx for examples of the pointer
mechanics described above. (grep/search for toInt64(), and OUString::number
inside the source file)

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--- Comment #12 from Mat M  ---
Confirmed in 6.0.2.1, and still annoying.

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--- Comment #11 from Mat M  ---
Confirmed in 6.0.2.1 and still very annoying :-/

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--- Comment #10 from Cor Nouws  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #9)

> The use case is multiselection and the proposed way is to use the navigator.

The summary reads: "Shapes without name cannot be selected via Navigator"  ...
So I missed that use case. Sorry :)

Maybe it should be separate issue.

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--- Comment #9 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #8)
> Why is this "needsUXEval"?
> It's new. and a useful enhancement request.

The use case is multiselection and the proposed way is to use the navigator.
There could be alternative ways for the use case but also additional features
to implement with this idea. That's why I set UX for all enhancements.

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--- Comment #8 from Cor Nouws  ---
Why is this "needsUXEval"?
It's new. and a useful enhancement request.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 62851] UI: Shapes without name cannot be selected via Navigator

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Heiko Tietze  changed:

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--- Comment #7 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Jean-Baptiste Faure from comment #3)
> There is an easy workaround: name your shapes.
Which is not well supported (i.e. no item in the context menu). And when you
create shapes automatically, e.g. per duplication, they do not receive a
default name like Shape0815. Could be done easily. 

Another issue is that a tree indicates a selection capability. You single click
items, with or without multiselection enabled. The double click usually starts
a function, for instance execute the app or load the document in the associated
program for file browsers. Single and multi selection is missing in
Libreoffice. Also there is no indication vice versa when you select more than
one object. The navigator highlights only a single item.

(In reply to MarjaE from comment #5)
> I don't know what the "Navigator" is, or how to use it, so I don't know how
> well it would work if it did work.

There is no particular help for Draw but it's the same as for Writer, Calc, or
Impress (https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Navigator). Either press F5 or use
the lowest tab. It will show a tree for navigation and interaction (only a few
functions are available in Draw today).


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100155
[Bug 100155] [META] Improve object selection and alignment
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