[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2020-09-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

Jan-Marek Glogowski  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13
   ||6555

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-07-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #69 from Commit Notification 
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Adolfo Jayme Barrientos committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to master:

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=9bb825704b7592cfc66267303cb019e38dcb3c2d

tdf#90452 StartCenter: Replace old, clunky, non-transparent LO logo…

It will be available in 5.1.0.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-07-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #66 from Commit Notification 
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Jan Holesovsky committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to libreoffice-5-0:

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=abbccd9e1c0f5ec231bf8b53878ce1f043ef26e1h=libreoffice-5-0

tdf#90452: Remove the frame around the Help and Extension buttons.

It will be available in 5.0.0.3.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-07-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

Commit Notification libreoffice-comm...@lists.freedesktop.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Whiteboard| target:5.1.0   | target:5.1.0
   |target:5.0.0.0.beta3|target:5.0.0.0.beta3
   ||target:5.0.0.3

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-07-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #65 from Commit Notification 
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Jan Holesovsky committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to libreoffice-5-0:

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=c3a36a6761c8edbeb5f3af236d2f54c3b6dc8072h=libreoffice-5-0

tdf#90452: Implement the new design of the startcenter.

It will be available in 5.0.0.3.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-07-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #68 from Commit Notification 
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Jan Holesovsky committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to libreoffice-5-0:

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=56c1103d6a83b46d5cacdc9d0e249d2959256f76h=libreoffice-5-0

tdf#90452: Templates should adhere to the recent docs colors too.

It will be available in 5.0.0.3.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-07-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #67 from Commit Notification 
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Jan Holesovsky committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to libreoffice-5-0:

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=bb1ae405750be24ddbcccb9bb0baf0b12efe680eh=libreoffice-5-0

tdf#90452: The correct color for the message when there's no recent file yet.

It will be available in 5.0.0.3.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-07-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #64 from mi...@filmsi.net ---
Maybe a small competition for best looking design combining those settings to
one's own liking (for a LO T-shirt etc.) could be announced (and even
incorporated into LO, if it looks better than the current combination).

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-07-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #63 from Pedro pedl...@gmail.com ---
Hi Stuart, all

(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #62)
 Hey, a special thanks to Kendy! 
 
 He did the extra bit needed in implementing Andreas's design such that the
 full set of StartCenter colors are accessible in Expert Configuration
 dialog: /org.openoffice.Office.common/Help/StartCenter
 
 per tdf#90452 comment 45
 DecimalHEXColor   Property
 335544333 Gray 8  StartCenterTextColor
 14540253 DD   Gray 2  StartCenterBackgroundColor
 15658734 EE   Gray 1  StartCenterThumbnailsTextColor
 14540253 DD   Gray 2  StartCenterThumbnailsHighlightColor
 671088666 Gray 7  StartCenterThumbnailsBackgroundColor
 335544333 Gray 8  StartCenterThumbnailsHightlightTextColor
 
 Meaning that users can adjust any of these properties from Expert
 Configuration to skin the StartCenter as desired.

Thank you to all that contributed. This is particularly good news! Not only has
the problem been solved but especially in a way that users can modify to their
preferences (instead of hardcoded options). Kudos to Jan Kendy Holesovsky!
(and thank you Stuart for the new hidden options ;) )

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-07-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #61 from steve -_- st...@openmailbox.org ---
Created attachment 117006
  -- https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=117006action=edit
LO 2015-07-02 nightly + osx 10.10.4

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-07-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

steve -_- st...@openmailbox.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |FIXED

--- Comment #60 from steve -_- st...@openmailbox.org ---
Calling this Resolved  Fixed.

Thanks Andreas for the mockup session and kendy for implementing the results!

If I missed something please re-open and add your thoughts.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-07-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #62 from V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu ---
Hey, a special thanks to Kendy! 

He did the extra bit needed in implementing Andreas's design such that the full
set of StartCenter colors are accessible in Expert Configuration dialog:
/org.openoffice.Office.common/Help/StartCenter

per tdf#90452 comment 45
Decimal HEXColorProperty
3355443 33Gray 8StartCenterTextColor
14540253 DDGray 2StartCenterBackgroundColor
15658734 EEGray 1StartCenterThumbnailsTextColor
14540253 DDGray 2StartCenterThumbnailsHighlightColor
6710886 66Gray 7StartCenterThumbnailsBackgroundColor
3355443 33Gray 8StartCenterThumbnailsHightlightTextColor

Meaning that users can adjust any of these properties from Expert Configuration
to skin the StartCenter as desired.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-06-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #58 from Commit Notification 
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Jan Holesovsky committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to master:

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=7387cdbc41924a85cc48e6b68563c91e35b3915c

tdf#90452: The correct color for the message when there's no recent file yet.

It will be available in 5.1.0.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-06-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #56 from Commit Notification 
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Jan Holesovsky committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to master:

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=562d2c3337051da5d98d55a28dc391dab387b692

tdf#90452: Implement the new design of the startcenter.

It will be available in 5.1.0.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-06-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #57 from Commit Notification 
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Jan Holesovsky committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to master:

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=aef5e0a90cdfd37c2228a9959adee2efd543a717

tdf#90452: Remove the frame around the Help and Extension buttons.

It will be available in 5.1.0.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-06-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #59 from Commit Notification 
libreoffice-comm...@lists.freedesktop.org ---
Jan Holesovsky committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to master:

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=1cf7e272f7731978695f4bcd8fbdf85766d4f14e

tdf#90452: Templates should adhere to the recent docs colors too.

It will be available in 5.1.0.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-06-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #52 from andreas_k kain...@gmail.com ---
I have done my part of the bug report see
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/16176/

All Start Center icons are 48x48 px because they doesn't work with 32x32 px. I
also make the recent-documents icon from galaxy (thanks Adolfo). And I also
make the extensions and help icon according to galaxy so it would be possible
to change the design of the extension and help button to the standard layout.

how does it look like:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1642456/VDG/LibreOffice/StartCenter/StartCenterBreezeIcons.png

So how can change the colours as discussed that this bug report is fixed? I
make it my own but if no one will do it I will search in the code for some
night ;-( to fix the colours.

thanks for writing the bug report and for the discussion.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-06-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

Commit Notification libreoffice-comm...@lists.freedesktop.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Whiteboard|| target:5.1.0

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-06-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

Commit Notification libreoffice-comm...@lists.freedesktop.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Whiteboard| target:5.1.0   | target:5.1.0
   ||target:5.0.0.0.beta3

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-06-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #54 from Commit Notification 
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andreas_ka committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to libreoffice-5-0:

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=45e1b4cad938a8ac1c865df527dcc536d4c80920h=libreoffice-5-0

Breeze: StartCenter new icons according to tdf#90452

It will be available in 5.0.0.0.beta3.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-06-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #51 from andreas_k kain...@gmail.com ---
So happy that there will be an recent document icon to. I also don't like it
that it was the same in the past. will make you a mockup. thanks for the
information.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-06-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #44 from Pedro pedl...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to andreas_k from comment #43)
 Attached the Application Icons for the start center in 48x48px. 

Thanks. I was hoping for a modified images_breeze.zip but no problem, I already
hacked it ;)

It looks pretty good! Actually nicer than the Tango icons :)

 The icons
 are different than the mimetype like breeze icons which are now in the
 Start Center. I would prefere the app icons because you start the app and
 not an odt file. But when we choose the app icon the minimum size is 48x48px
 in the original size (32x32px) you can only choose the mimetype icons.

Personally I find the Breeze icons too thin, so I'm using Sifr (or a hacked
version of Industrial...)

But I do like these easily recognizable icons on the Start Center! Of course
they don't match the Sifr theme at all...

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-06-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #49 from andreas_k kain...@gmail.com ---
that's true we only discuss the colors the other points are for the future and
should be discussed at another point.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-06-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #48 from andreas_k kain...@gmail.com ---
 But I do like these easily recognizable icons on the Start Center! Of course
 they don't match the Sifr theme at all...

breeze is fallback for sifr, so you will get the breeze icons ;-) until someone
will make sifr icons.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-06-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #43 from andreas_k kain...@gmail.com ---
Created attachment 116354
  -- https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=116354action=edit
StartCenter AppIcons 48

Attached the Application Icons for the start center in 48x48px. The icons are
different than the mimetype like breeze icons which are now in the Start
Center. I would prefere the app icons because you start the app and not an odt
file. But when we choose the app icon the minimum size is 48x48px in the
original size (32x32px) you can only choose the mimetype icons.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-06-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #47 from Pedro pedl...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to andreas_k from comment #45)

 I would say finished. You too?

+1

The Recent Files should be different from the Recent Files. But this is a
problem that affects all Themes so it needs to be discussed by UX... Maybe for
5.1?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-06-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #46 from Pedro pedl...@gmail.com ---
Created attachment 116356
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Hacked breeze theme including the 48 pixel icons for the Start Center

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-06-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #45 from andreas_k kain...@gmail.com ---
Created attachment 116355
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StartCenter wit LO Gray 2 and 7

I would say finished. You to?

Sidebar
===
background: Gray 2 221/221/221 #dd
text and line: Gray 8 51/51/51 #33

Thumbnail window

background: Gray 7 102/102/102 #66
text and line: Gray 1 238/238/238 #ee
hover background: Gray 2 221/221/221 #dd
hover text: Gray 8 51/51/51 #33

Extension (icon isn't finished only placeholder) and Help buttons same style as
other buttons. 
Recnet Files and Templates  element for show on right side.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-06-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #42 from mi...@filmsi.net ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #39)

 (In reply to miles from comment #37)
  Wouldn't Breeze icons look better in that?
 
 Those are Breeze icons--just the special set done for ODF documents
 
Well, just wanted to say I prefered those appearing by default in 5.0b1.

(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #39)
 (In reply to miles from comment #38)
  And this still does not solve the issue of two buttons at the bottom of
  sidebar, they are still from some other design (smaller font size, box
  around them, two in a row, ...).
 
 Nothing to solve, that is simply styling assigned to textbox buttons in
 the backingwindow.cxx source, easily adjusted as needed --
 http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/sfx2/source/dialog/backingwindow.
 cxx#335

What I wanted to say is that the concept of having both hyperlinks with icons
and boxed buttons (with smaller font size), one stacked vertically and one
stacked horizontally in the same pane is not coherent and clean.

Was there any mockup of having those two buttons transfered into hyperlinks,
one in a row, just like the above app links? A divider, already used between
the Create and folders section, could still be used at the bottom. But that is
just my opinion, of course.

I must also support the notion that the folder icons in this icon set seem
bigger than the module icons.

As far as readability is concerned, these app icons are really not readable
well (unlike the ones appearing by default in LO50b1), the quite small and
thin-lined white design inside them is hardly readable so users will not read
from the icon what app they want, which actually makes the icons somewhat
redundant in this scenario.

It would be the same if not better if only colored dots or boxes or already
used (semi-transparent) triangles (each of the current icon/app color) would be
in front of the app links text (in fact that might even be a graphically
clearer solution, there will be enough un-unified graphics shown in the
document preview pane, so excess design in the left pane just makes it all too
).

The Calc icon especially is a bit misguiding, I thought at first that a
calculator is displayed (but it should represent a table, spreadsheet).

Also the Recent files text should probably be rendered in white, not grey (to
be on par with file names etc.), if needed at all - currently I do not see this
text in LO44 or LO50b1 and I do not see why it would be needed - if this pane
also contained the Open file dialog upon clicking the Open File link, that
would be reasonable. But the content of this pane does not change clicking any
of the buttons on the left, so titles here are not explicitly needed. It just
takes additional space. If already needed, this title should remain in space
and only the thumbnails pane should be scrollable - but that would require
fixing it into another-colored pane etc.

And another thing - why is the Extensions button there at all? Why would
someone be looking or trying to install an extension even before one single
module is started? I never used it in this context and I do use several
extensions, also regularly updating them. But it is just not something you open
with LO, so an explanation why this link to a website is here would be in
place; of course if clicking it would open an array of suggested extensions in
the thumbnail preview pane that would make some sense, but this now is like a
work in progress that just got forgotten in the middle.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-06-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #29 from steve -_- st...@openmailbox.org ---
am I crazy if I make the observation, that proper colors (dark background for
documents and grey for left panel) would solve all start center icon issues and
would give the startcenter a modern look?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-06-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #28 from steve -_- st...@openmailbox.org ---
Created attachment 116326
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Pages startcenter

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-06-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #30 from Yousuf (Jay) Philips philip...@hotmail.com ---
Yes i think if we swapped the green and white between the right and left
sections (of course inverting the color of the text as well), that would be a
good combination. Document thumbnails would be alot easier to see when they are
not on a white background.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-06-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #27 from mi...@filmsi.net ---
Created attachment 116324
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LO44-sl Start Center

Hi, here is the current version, very readable, clear, as one can see.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-06-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #31 from mi...@filmsi.net ---
Also in that case of inverting the two background colors the nice Breeze icons
could probably be used.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-06-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu changed:

   What|Removed |Added

  Component|UI  |ux-advise
   Severity|normal  |enhancement

--- Comment #33 from V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu ---
There is pending branding/design work being done for 5.0 that will reskin the
StartCenter and Welcome/About panes. Until that is resolved there is no point
in this proceeding.

Comments 28 - 31 are somewhat onerous, and transcend the specific UI issue of
the poor Breeze icon contrast on background of StartCenter button panel, or of
the Sifr icon set fall-back to Breeze.

Regards a background color swap between the launch buttons panel and the
thumbnail view pane:

As implemented, thumbnail document views on the start pane are rendered, or
generic document type icons are shown, onto fixed 260 x 300 pixel panels that
currently show blue when the object is selected. That same blue is defined in a
gradient for selected button objects on the launch buttons. So it really is not
just two colors but also text contrast that needs to be judged. Rather the
whole default color scheme for the StartCenter and LO branding.

While we wait for resolution to the design work, not much can be done with the
Breeze icon set in 5.0, beyond possibly assigning a fixed color to just the
breeze icons used on the StartCenter, as in comments 16 - 19.  But then Pedro's
comment 20 is equally germane. And which the Apple Pages startcenter of
attachment 116326 suffers from.

Moving this back to UX advise, and enhancement since it seems to have drifted
away from the visibility issue.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-06-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

Adolfo Jayme f...@libreoffice.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks|87234   |

--- Comment #32 from Adolfo Jayme f...@libreoffice.org ---
No idea why this bug blocks 87234.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-06-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #37 from mi...@filmsi.net ---
Wouldn't Breeze icons look better in that?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-06-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #38 from mi...@filmsi.net ---
And this still does not solve the issue of two buttons at the bottom of
sidebar, they are still from some other design (smaller font size, box around
them, two in a row, ...).

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-06-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #40 from V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #39)
s/StartCenterBacground/StartCenterBackgroundColor/

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-06-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #35 from andreas_k kain...@gmail.com ---
Created attachment 116339
  -- https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=116339action=edit
start center white and green

After a design session with jphilipz and octal the result is the attached file
StartCenterMockup23. The new start menu windows works also better for galaxy,
tango, ...

sidebar
===
background white, text black

main window
===
background green 1 (18A303) primary LO Color
text white
thumbnail boarder 1px green 0 (106802) secondary LO Color

hover thumbnail, button
===
Calc Spreadsheet, Help and Offene Punkte TSI INF PRM ENE are shown as mouse
hover
green 0 (106802) secondary LO Color

select button
=
Recent Files is selected for the main window, when Templates was selected
Templates has a green background
background green 1 (18A303) primary LO Color
text color black

All colors are from the Branding
(https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Branding)

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-06-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #39 from V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu ---
(In reply to andreas_k from comment #36)
 Created attachment 116340 [details]
 LO gray
 
Hey looks pretty good. Thanks guys! Please be sure to add them to the Wiki at
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/5.0_Branding

 long discussion after the design session. It is difficult. We would like to
 use the branding but green isn't that good for such large color areas.
 
 The problem is that there isn't a gray branding color so we deside to use
 dark gray for the main window and lighter gray in the sidebar as you can see
 in the mockup file StartCenterMockup27.

So the dark grey looks to be #2b2f33 and the light grey #ee -- you could
use the LO standard pallet Gray 8 (#33 - 3355443) and Gray 1 (#ee -
15658734) respectively.

If anyone wants to see the colors as rendered--open Tools - Options -
Advanced: ExpertConfiguration and search for StartCenterBacground -- current
TDF Green is Dec 7514196 or Hex 72A854 -- Button labels are hard-coded white
for now as is the canvas of the thumbnail view pane.

(In reply to miles from comment #37)
 Wouldn't Breeze icons look better in that?

Those are Breeze icons--just the special set done for ODF documents

(In reply to miles from comment #38)
 And this still does not solve the issue of two buttons at the bottom of
 sidebar, they are still from some other design (smaller font size, box
 around them, two in a row, ...).

Nothing to solve, that is simply styling assigned to textbox buttons in the
backingwindow.cxx source, easily adjusted as needed --
http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/sfx2/source/dialog/backingwindow.cxx#335

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-06-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #34 from andreas_k kain...@gmail.com ---
I made some mockups with different colors. as higher the mockup number as
better I think.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bdox203inh7t82a/AAArWVKB-KJICrI3GojLykDCa?dl=0

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-06-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #23 from andreas_k kain...@gmail.com ---
Created attachment 116317
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LO Start 48px

the icons are 48 px in size. thanks for the feedback. would work good. is the
contrast ok for you?

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-06-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #25 from mi...@filmsi.net ---
If I may say so - the attached solution seems to colorful and uses too many
different colours, also it does not step away from the background, some white
halo effect or shine would make it better.
I prefer the icons from the Breeze theme, but maybe with some white halo effect
or border or white shade they might prove a better solution.
Also the folders do look from outer space or some other icon set.
This does not seem a reasonable solution.

The current situation in 4.4 is still better.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-05-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #22 from Yousuf (Jay) Philips philip...@hotmail.com ---
If its possible to get the nice icons like Pedro suggested ( e.g.
https://kdeonlinux.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/libreoffice-writer.png ), that
would be the best possible outcome.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-05-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #20 from Pedro pedl...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to andreas_k from comment #18)
 If the new Branding is green than I'd prefer white icons (breeze dark icon
 color). But my wish would be to use the color of the menue bar (gray in this
 example) for the side bar background, than I can use the colored icons.

I think this is missing the whole point of an icon. The icon is supposed to be
a unique image that you can easily associate with the task you want to perform. 

If all icons use the same colour and they are similar then you need to read the
icon label which makes the icons useless.

Why is it not possible to use the beautiful icons created specifically for
LibreOffice?
https://kdeonlinux.wordpress.com/2015/03/25/breeze-love-libre-office/

If this is not possible then I think the theme should use the default icons for
the Start Center.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-05-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #21 from mi...@filmsi.net ---
I voting is allowed - I vote for white icons.

The icon is one thing, it's color variants are other.

An icon can be adapted for different occasions, even logos as such have color
variants, so sticking just to one color version and not adapting it to a
specific/extreme UI situation (such as this vibrant green background is) misses
the point of UI design.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-05-29 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #18 from andreas_k kain...@gmail.com ---
If the new Branding is green than I'd prefer white icons (breeze dark icon
color). But my wish would be to use the color of the menue bar (gray in this
example) for the side bar background, than I can use the colored icons.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-05-29 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #19 from Yousuf (Jay) Philips philip...@hotmail.com ---
I agree that white looks better in the start center, but these same icons are
also used in the NEW button in the toolbar and them being white is bug 90387
all over again. :D

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-05-29 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #17 from andreas_k kain...@gmail.com ---
Created attachment 116162
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startCenter White icons

white icons

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-05-29 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #16 from andreas_k kain...@gmail.com ---
Created attachment 116161
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startCenter-Gray icons

gray icons

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-05-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #15 from Yousuf (Jay) Philips philip...@hotmail.com ---
(In reply to Pedro from comment #10)
 In Bug report #91532 (which is a duplicate of this bug), the last comment by
 Adolfo indicates that the Start Center itself will be redesigned for 5.0 so
 maybe this is no longer an issue...

The start center wont be redesigned, but there maybe a different color used in
the sidebar -
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/5.0_Branding#Contributions_submitted_so_far

(In reply to Jean-Baptiste Faure from comment #11)
 For 5.0? Seems to be too late for that.

Yes it will likely be in 5.0.

(In reply to Jean-Baptiste Faure from comment #14)
 Sorry, it is not true if you choose Sifr icons set. See comment #6.

As sifr fallsback on breeze, it is true. See comment #9.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-05-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #14 from Jean-Baptiste Faure jbfa...@libreoffice.org ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #13)
 [...]
 Otherwise the Icon set appearing on the Start Center is now (post tdf#90127)
 the user selected icon set from Tools - Options - View 

Sorry, it is not true if you choose Sifr icons set. See comment #6.

Best regards. JBF

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-05-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #13 from V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu ---
bug 90127 has been corrected by Kendy, the user selected icon set (or default
Tango) will appear on Start Center.  Issue of low contrast with Breeze incons
over specific backgrounds is likely unfixable short of an arbitrary recoloring
of the breeze icon set as Jay mentions.

Some of us still prefer that the Start Center icon sets be fixed as a branding
issue, but what is likely going to be necessary for that is a new UI control to
specify icon set for Start Center separate from the rest of the UI.

Otherwise the Icon set appearing on the Start Center is now (post tdf#90127)
the user selected icon set from Tools - Options - View --until changes can be
made to coloring of Breeze icons they will appear in low contrast over the =
4.x builds.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-05-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #11 from Jean-Baptiste Faure jbfa...@libreoffice.org ---
(In reply to Pedro from comment #10)
 [...]
 In Bug report #91532 (which is a duplicate of this bug), the last comment by
 Adolfo indicates that the Start Center itself will be redesigned for 5.0 so
 maybe this is no longer an issue...

For 5.0? Seems to be too late for that.

Best regards. JBF

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-05-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu changed:

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-05-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

--- Comment #10 from Pedro pedl...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to Yousuf (Jay) Philips from comment #9)
 I will speak to the icon designer about this issue and see if
 anything can be done, as the breeze color palette is quite limited (
 https://techbase.kde.org/images.techbase/8/8b/Breeze_Color_Palette.png ). I
 think the best solution would be to use the same gray found in the 'Open
 File' icon on all of the icons. This would also remedy the sifr problem as
 well.

In Bug report #91532 (which is a duplicate of this bug), the last comment by
Adolfo indicates that the Start Center itself will be redesigned for 5.0 so
maybe this is no longer an issue...

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-05-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu changed:

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--- Comment #12 from V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu ---
*** Bug 91532 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-05-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

Yousuf (Jay) Philips philip...@hotmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #9 from Yousuf (Jay) Philips philip...@hotmail.com ---
(In reply to Jean-Baptiste Faure from comment #3)
 Not sure if we can say that the problem is fixed. Indeed there is a
 remaining problem linked to Breeze icons in the startcenter: if you choose
 the Sifr icons set, you get Breeze icons in the startcenter as fallback. If
 I am not wrong Sifr is the default icons set on OS-X.

Yes that maybe a problem, but that is a sifr problem and not a breeze problem
as tango and breeze fallback on galaxy and sifr falls back on breeze. This can
be easily remedied by copying the tango start center icons into sifr.

(In reply to Pedro from comment #4)
 I strongly disagree with the Status change. The bug report is about the
 Breeze icons having a low visibility against the green background in the
 Start Center.

Sorry for the misunderstanding, as i didnt re-read the bug report thoroughly. I
will speak to the icon designer about this issue and see if anything can be
done, as the breeze color palette is quite limited (
https://techbase.kde.org/images.techbase/8/8b/Breeze_Color_Palette.png ). I
think the best solution would be to use the same gray found in the 'Open File'
icon on all of the icons. This would also remedy the sifr problem as well.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 90452] Breeze icons poorly visible in Start Center

2015-05-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90452

Yousuf (Jay) Philips philip...@hotmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
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   |.freedesktop.org|
  Component|ux-advise   |UI
 Blocks||87234
 Resolution|--- |FIXED

--- Comment #2 from Yousuf (Jay) Philips philip...@hotmail.com ---
The icons were decided that they werent branding so icon themes can change them
if they choose.

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