[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 96299] Illustration Cross Reference Defaults to Page - Should Default to Number

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Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords|needsDevEval, needsUXEval   |
 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |
   |.freedesktop.org|
 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX

--- Comment #10 from Heiko Tietze  ---
"One" user showed up and asked about changing the default. We agreed that the
workflow has room for improvements but the messing up with the default is not a
solution. So let's close this ticket as WF.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 96299] Illustration Cross Reference Defaults to Page - Should Default to Number

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Cor Nouws  changed:

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 CC||ad...@shinnok.com

--- Comment #8 from Cor Nouws  ---
could be an easy hack .. 

@shinnok: is that something you check, or promote at the ESC too? Thanks - Cor

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 96299] Illustration Cross Reference Defaults to Page - Should Default to Number

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Dieter Praas  changed:

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   Severity|minor   |enhancement

--- Comment #7 from Dieter Praas  ---
Set to enhancement, because everything works how it should works. But an
improvement is still possible.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 96299] Illustration Cross Reference Defaults to Page - Should Default to Number

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Dieter Praas  changed:

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 Blocks||107905


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107905
[Bug 107905] [META] Cross-references bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 96299] Illustration Cross Reference Defaults to Page - Should Default to Number

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 96299] Illustration Cross Reference Defaults to Page - Should Default to Number

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Heiko Tietze  changed:

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  Component|LibreOffice |Writer

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 96299] Illustration Cross Reference Defaults to Page - Should Default to Number

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--- Comment #4 from Francisco  ---
Hi there. As a researcher, I use heavily cross references for tables and figure
captions (much in the "Eve's way" I'd say). As Heiko pointed, the 
cross-reference workflow could be improved. But, I also think that simply
changing the default option from page number into paragraph numbering.
Just a user's opinion :-)
Regards!

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 96299] Illustration Cross Reference Defaults to Page - Should Default to Number

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Cor Nouws  changed:

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 CC||c...@nouenoff.nl
Version|5.0.3.2 release |Inherited From OOo

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 96299] Illustration Cross Reference Defaults to Page - Should Default to Number

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--- Comment #2 from Joel Madero  ---
The only reason this came up was because a user came into the #libreoffice
channel and for the life of him couldn't figure out what was going wrong as he
saw a reference to "Illustration 6" when he had clearly selected "Illustration
1"

I've only used cross-references a handful of times but I can say hands down
I've never referred to a page (anecdotal I know). 

The other option maybe is to redesign the dialog so it's more obvious as to
what is being referred to. On the right (main part) you see "Illustration 1"
and it's only when you look to the bottom left that you see that Page is being
referred to. When the largest part of the dialog (where the eyes move to) says
"Illustration 1", it seems like you would of course assume the reference will
be to Illustration 1 and not Illustration 6.

Of course if UX as a whole says no, go ahead and close it - I just think that
the current situation leaves a lot to be desired.

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--- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze  ---
> The other option maybe is to redesign the dialog so it's more obvious as to
> what is being referred to...

Yes. Not only the cross-reference workflow has room for improvements but also
the complete fields dialog is terrible and needs streamlining. It looks like a
lot of work.

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 96299] Illustration Cross Reference Defaults to Page - Should Default to Number

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Joel Madero  changed:

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   Priority|medium  |low
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 CC||jmadero@gmail.com
 Ever confirmed|0   |1
 Whiteboard||needDevEval

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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 96299] Illustration Cross Reference Defaults to Page - Should Default to Number

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--- Comment #1 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Hard to say without user data what type of reference is used most frequently.
Eve may use it for figures, tables etc. like '...see picture [1] at page [2]',
whereas Benjamin wouldn't use this feature at all. Therefore I'd keep it as it
as as long we don't have data to underpin the changes.

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