Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Impress : general feed back

2013-05-18 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi Michel,

Michel RENON wrote (09-05-13 16:11)


While working on entrance animations, I also ran an simple test of
Impress and found bizarre behaviors :
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Michelr#Impress_4.0_:_urgent_bugs_and_enhancements


Thanks for gathering those and writing down.
I do recognise this partly. But obviously since I know how to make 
proper use of Impress, I can avoid a lot of the pitfalls.
But that's not your point: it's for people that just need good guidance 
by a clear UI behaviour.



What do you think of my Proposal for urgent bugs ?


in slide view :

remove focus in Recently used and Available for use

No, I would not like to remove the use.

rename Available for use to Available Templates

OK

change default click of Available Templates from apply to all 
slides to apply to selected slides


OK. (There is the context menu too)

remove Recently used ? (ToBeConfirmed)

Why would you remove that choice?


in master view :

disable all task panels, or simply hide the Tasks panel,

OK

adapt tabs :
rename tab Normal to Slide Master, rename tab Notes to 
Notes Master



OK

disable or hide all other tabs (Outline, Handouts, Slide 
sorter)


OK

in slide pane, change title Slides to Master pages

OK



Can it be implemented easily ?


I've no real idea. But I think that things as disabling some tabs while 
in Master page view, and make naming more consistent, look relatively easy.


Being easy is one point... another is people willing to implement it.
And the better issues are sorted out, especially more important ones, 
the more likely it is that a developer will step in.
IIRC several improvements in Impress have been implemented like that 
already.

Would be good to attract those hackers too for feed back at a certain stage.
Would it be helpful (to get more people involved maybe) to have some 
graphics/screen shots?


What I like about your ideas it that you take a whole bunch related 
topics. Did you have a look at BugZilla for like/related issues?


Related - what I found out:
- changing size/position of the main text frame on a slide in master 
view, sets those very properties when using that master page for a slide 
and choosing a lay out;
- setting the position of bullets / numbering in a master page can't be 
done via the Styles, but has to be done via the menu Format  Bullets 
and numbering.
  (Note to Thorsten: I was fighting recently with some settings that 
were lost randomly. Cannot reproduce. May be due to the fact that that 
was in an old presentation file, prolly once imported from Impress too. 
So who knows what cruft may be hidden in de settings.)



Cheers,
Cor

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Re: [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Impress : general feed back

2013-05-10 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Michel RENON wrote:
 Can it be implemented easily ?
 
Disabling stuff, changing focus etc. is generally easy stuff, that
could be done as EasyHacks, or as a group effort e.g. on the upcoming
HackFest in Hamburg. Would you want to file a number of bugs for those
(provided it is not yet reported), and poke us with the IDs?

Thanks a lot for looking closely indeed,

-- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-ux-advise] Impress : general feed back

2013-05-09 Thread Michel RENON

Hi,

While working on entrance animations, I also ran an simple test of 
Impress and found bizarre behaviors :

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Michelr#Impress_4.0_:_urgent_bugs_and_enhancements

What do you think of my Proposal for urgent bugs ?
Can it be implemented easily ?

(others proposal short-term and mid-term are still in brainstorm state)

Michel
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