Re: Fw: Pentagon Phone Menu

2000-10-03 Thread neil barnes

Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 07:32:58 GMT
From: "neil barnes" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Fw: Pentagon Phone Menu

grin
...not wanting to get into an friendly fire situation...but I seem to have 
heard a quote somewhere after a joint US/UK exercise pointing out that the 
US army was the best equiped but the worst trained, while the UK army was 
exactly the opposite :)

(don't shoot me - all my antecedents are RAF!)

Neil


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Subject: Fw: Pentagon Phone Menu
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 16:45:57 -0700

Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2000 19:27:34 -0400
From: "Pres Waterman" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Fw: Pentagon Phone Menu


 Subject: ARMY OFFICIAL VOICE MAIL MESSAGE
 
 "Thank you for calling the British Army. Sorry, but
 all our units are out, on leave or are otherwise
 engaged at the moment.
 
 Please leave a message, stating: your country, name of
 organization, the region, the specific crisis, and a
 number at which we can call you. All calls will be
 charged at 50p a minute to defray costs.
 
 Someone will call you as soon as we have sorted out:
 the Balkans, Iraq, Northern Ireland, the Millennium
 Bug, marching up and down bits of tarmac in London,
 compulsory Equal-Opportunities training, and all our
 Racism-Awareness courses...
 
 Please speak after the tone. If you require more
 options, please select one of the following:
 
 ? If your crisis is small and close to the sea,
 press 1 for The Royal Marines.
 
 ? If your crisis is distant, with a tropical
 climate and good hotels, and can be resolved by one or
 two low-risk bombing runs, please press 'Hash' for the
 Royal Air Force. Please note that this service is not
 available after 16:30 hours or on weekends.
 
 ? If your enquiry concerns a situation which
 can be resolved by a bit of grey funnel, bunting,
 flags and a really good marching band, please write
 well in advance, to: The First Sea Lord, the
 Admiralty, Whitehall, London SW1.
 
 ? If your enquiry is not urgent, please press 2
 for the Allied Rapid Reaction Corps.
 
 ? If you are in real, hot trouble, please press
 3, and your call will be routed to Sandline
 International.
 
 ? If your crisis can be dealt with from over
 20,000 feet with no risk and a limited ability to read
 a tourist map, please contact The US President
 direct on 001 100 66.
 
 ? If your problem is dubious but can be turned
 to political advantage and blown out of all
 proportion, please e-mail Tony Blair c/o Bill Clinton
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 ? If your problem can be solved by use of a
 redundant EU Commissioner with little or no ability,
 please contact e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
 see if her husband is allowed to come.
 
 ? If you are interested in joining the Army and
 wish to be shouted at, paid little, have premature
 arthritis, put your wife and family in a condemned hut
 miles from civilization and are prepared to work your
 butt off daily, risking your life in all weathers and
 terrains, both day and night, whilst watching the
 Treasury eroding your original terms and conditions of
 service, the Foreign Secretary giving away the country
 you wished to defend, the Chancellor destroying your
 national asset base, your Cabinet giving you away to
 command by a foreign power, and your Government make a
 nonsense of your oath of allegiance, then please stay
 on the line.
 
 Your call will shortly be connected to a rather
 bitter,
 much passed-over Recruiting Sergeant in a grotty shop
 down by the railway station.
 
 Have a pleasant day, and thank you again for trying to
 contact the residue of The British Army."
 
 *
 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi y'all,
 
  When I worked at the library one of my jobs was to
  set up the incoming phone
  message - if you want reference, press 1; if you
  want etc. I thought it was
  the stupidest thing in the world. It is a close to
  anti-public service as you
  can get. But, I wasn't the boss. Besides, it could
  be worse - read on.
 
  Party on,
  William
 
  ---
 
  Subject: Pentagon phone menu
 
  Ever wonder how the trend of replacing human
  customer service representatives
  with computers could affect the military?  Here's
  the result.  Picture troops
  under fire, desperately needing artillery support,
  making a phone call and
  hearing the following:
 
  Thank you for calling the 26th Division's automated
  artillery support request
  line. Please be assured that we will attempt to
  assist you with all available
  resources in the shortest time possible. For air
  support, please call the
  U.S. Air Force at 1-800-BOMBNOW.
 
  [In enemy language: If you are a member of the
  [enemy country] army, we will
  not be able to assist you.  Please contact your own
  army's artillery support
  request line at 1-800-DIEYANK]
 
  If you are attacking a fixed enemy position, please
  press 1.
  If you are engaged in mobile defense, please press
  

Sources for Librettos?

2000-10-03 Thread Kapusta Gerhard

Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 10:36:26 +0200
From: Kapusta Gerhard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Sources for Librettos?

Hi!

Does anybody know sources to buy new or used Librettos (100CT and 110CT)?

Gerhard


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RE: DOS copy files between PC-card slots?

2000-10-03 Thread Fubar Libretto

Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 11:15:28 GMT
From: "Fubar Libretto" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: DOS copy files between PC-card slots?

Should it be possible to copy files between PC-card slots (one will
contain a 128Mb CF1 card in a PC-card slot adapter, the other will
contain an Iomega "Clik" (aka "Pocket Zip"?) drive...  from a DOS
prompt (ie without Windows)?

Of course.  Each device will be assigned a separate drive letter by
DOS, so there is no restriction.

So how do I get DOS to see these devices? I presume I need some software 
(drivers?) that allow DOS to see the PC-card slots; either something 
specific to PC-card slots, or specific to the devices in the slots (ie the 
CF1 card and the Clik drive), or both?

TIA
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Re: DOS copy files between PC-card slots?

2000-10-03 Thread Fubar Libretto

Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 11:23:28 GMT
From: "Fubar Libretto" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: DOS copy files between PC-card slots?

I take it that Fubar, wants to use the "Click" with out loading Windows
either with dos enablers (no card services or with card services) but
not with windows drivers.

Something like that!

Think of it as a Libretto with no hard drive - I can boot it from a floppy, 
and need to move the images I've taken with my digital camera to some other 
media (the Clik is ideal because it's cheap, available where I am, and will 
still be useful after I've resolved my hard drive / hard drive controller 
problem)

What's the difference between no card services / with card services?
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RE: Anybody in Thailand/Malaysia/Singapore?

2000-10-03 Thread Fubar Libretto

Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 11:24:26 GMT
From: "Fubar Libretto" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Anybody in Thailand/Malaysia/Singapore?

Is anybody reading this list who is based in Thailand or Malaysia
or Singapore?

Are you just curious or do you have a real question lurking within?

:-)

I'm backpacking through these countries and carrying a dead Libretto.
I'm unable to determine if the problem lies with my hard drive controller or 
the hard drive itself. I understand that by slotting my drive into another 
Libretto, or the drive from another Libretto into mine, I'd have an answer 
in less time than it normally takes to boot...
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Re: DOS copy files between PC-card slots?

2000-10-03 Thread Christian Gennerat

Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 13:28:46 +0200
From: Christian Gennerat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: DOS copy files between PC-card slots?

Fubar Libretto a écrit :

 Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 11:15:28 GMT
 From: "Fubar Libretto" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: DOS copy files between PC-card slots?

 Should it be possible to copy files between PC-card slots (one will
 contain a 128Mb CF1 card in a PC-card slot adapter, the other will
 contain an Iomega "Clik" (aka "Pocket Zip"?) drive...  from a DOS
 prompt (ie without Windows)?
 
 Of course.  Each device will be assigned a separate drive letter by
 DOS, so there is no restriction.

 So how do I get DOS to see these devices? I presume I need some software
 (drivers?) that allow DOS to see the PC-card slots; either something
 specific to PC-card slots, or specific to the devices in the slots (ie the
 CF1 card and the Clik drive), or both?

Or with a small linux system. The drivers do exist.



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Re: Sources for Librettos?

2000-10-03 Thread Sue0849

Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 07:56:44 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Sources for Librettos?

I have a Libretto 110CT for sale if  anyone is interested. Hardly used.




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Re: DOS copy files between PC-card slots?

2000-10-03 Thread Fubar Libretto

Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 12:11:41 GMT
From: "Fubar Libretto" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: DOS copy files between PC-card slots?

If you look at Iomega site you can find drivers for windows,
but those will not work for dos, and you can find dos drivers for the Jaz
and Zip, but I do not see any drivers for the 250 zip usb or for the click.

I see...

I just tried http://www.iomega.com/software/drivers.html
and selected "Clik! PC Card Drive" and "Windows 3.1/DOS" and get the message 
"Sorry, no software is available for this selection"  :-(

I've also tried a couple of search engines, just on the off-chance, but 
drawn a blank...

So yes if you can get it recognized it would be no problem copying between
them. I think the real question that you need answer is will dos recognize
the click. Perhaps even without Iomega drivers you can get Card and Sockets
service to work with it, as a simple hard drive. Perhaps it would be best 
to
check with your DOS card and Sockets service provider and see if they have 
a
driver for it.

Who might my DOS card and Sockets provider be? What are the alternatives?

TIA, and TVVVM for your help!
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Re: Sources for Librettos?

2000-10-03 Thread Fubar Libretto

Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 12:28:57 GMT
From: "Fubar Libretto" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Sources for Librettos?

Does anybody know sources to buy new or used Librettos (100CT and 110CT)?

The 110 is still available in Hong Kong
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Re: DOS copy files between PC-card slots?

2000-10-03 Thread David Hettel

Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 09:13:19 -0400
From: "David Hettel" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: DOS copy files between PC-card slots?

I think your out of luck.
With out a working hard drive, and limited to 3.5" floppies you just aren't
going to have room enough to load all the programs you would need. It use to
be that the Aussie Toshiba site had card and sockets that you could down
load. But the install program would not fit on one 3.5" floppy. What you are
looking for is old software for say a Toshiba T4XXX computer. an dos 5 or
dos 6.

Trying to do what you want to do is not going to be easy at all. Trying to
do it by just downloading
from the net, I think will be almost impossible. IMHO there just to much you
need to load in your config.sys to put on just one disk! Sorry. If I were
you I byte the bullet and try another hard drive. Chances are you got a
blown Hard Drive and not a bad controller. IMHO unless you pulled your Hard
drive while you Libretto was power up, or you went poking around the pins
with your screwdriver, chances are its your hard drive.

David Hettel

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From: "Fubar Libretto" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Libretto" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: DOS copy files between PC-card slots?


 Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 12:11:41 GMT
 From: "Fubar Libretto" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: DOS copy files between PC-card slots?

 If you look at Iomega site you can find drivers for windows,
 but those will not work for dos, and you can find dos drivers for the Jaz
 and Zip, but I do not see any drivers for the 250 zip usb or for the
click.

 I see...

 I just tried http://www.iomega.com/software/drivers.html
 and selected "Clik! PC Card Drive" and "Windows 3.1/DOS" and get the
message
 "Sorry, no software is available for this selection"  :-(

 I've also tried a couple of search engines, just on the off-chance, but
 drawn a blank...

 So yes if you can get it recognized it would be no problem copying
between
 them. I think the real question that you need answer is will dos
recognize
 the click. Perhaps even without Iomega drivers you can get Card and
Sockets
 service to work with it, as a simple hard drive. Perhaps it would be best
 to
 check with your DOS card and Sockets service provider and see if they
have
 a
 driver for it.

 Who might my DOS card and Sockets provider be? What are the alternatives?

 TIA, and TVVVM for your help!
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LINUX boot+copy files between PC-card slots

2000-10-03 Thread Fubar Libretto

Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 13:40:32 GMT
From: "Fubar Libretto" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: LINUX boot+copy files between PC-card slots

Re my 'quest' to copy files between PC-card slots, from a CF1 flash memory 
card (in a PC-card adapter) to an Iomega 'Clik' disk...

I just found the following Clik/Linux page:

http://paulbristow.net/linux/clik.html
which even includes a paragraph:

 Toshiba Libretto 100/110 CT
 The drive only works in slot 0, the bottom PCMCIA slot.
 I guess this is something to do with the Cardbus stuff in slot 1.

Kinda looks promising, though I have no Linux experience whatsoever so right 
now it's all way over my head.

So, before pursuing this further, my question is - can anyone advise the 
feasability of booting Linux from a floppy, and then being able to copy 
between PC-cards...  obviously I can use more than one floppy disk (I could 
even use another CF card or Clik drive, if it would help), but I *can't* use 
the built-in Libretto hard drive...
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Re: LINUX boot+copy files between PC-card slots

2000-10-03 Thread Paul Bristow

Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 20:40:26 +0200
From: Paul Bristow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: LINUX boot+copy files between PC-card slots

In theory it should be possible.  

One would need to build a couple of floppies including a heavily patched 
kernel with the Clik! driver and the Libretto Floppy driver.  In fact
this
is a phenominally good idea for a rescue disk set.  

Unfortunately I don't have time today or tomorrow to even start to
attempt this.

Is there no way you can find a fellow traveller with a windows PC who
will let you
"use" his laptop under supervision in return for a few beers?

Fubar Libretto wrote:
 
 Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 13:40:32 GMT
 From: "Fubar Libretto" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: LINUX boot+copy files between PC-card slots
 
 Re my 'quest' to copy files between PC-card slots, from a CF1 flash memory
 card (in a PC-card adapter) to an Iomega 'Clik' disk...
 
 I just found the following Clik/Linux page:
 
 http://paulbristow.net/linux/clik.html
 which even includes a paragraph:
 
  Toshiba Libretto 100/110 CT
  The drive only works in slot 0, the bottom PCMCIA slot.
  I guess this is something to do with the Cardbus stuff in slot 1.
 
 Kinda looks promising, though I have no Linux experience whatsoever so right
 now it's all way over my head.
 
 So, before pursuing this further, my question is - can anyone advise the
 feasability of booting Linux from a floppy, and then being able to copy
 between PC-cards...  obviously I can use more than one floppy disk (I could
 even use another CF card or Clik drive, if it would help), but I *can't* use
 the built-in Libretto hard drive...
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Re: Palm Pilot HotSync

2000-10-03 Thread E. Smith

Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 18:56:16 -0400
From: "E. Smith" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Palm Pilot HotSync

Yes. I'm syncing an m100 currently via IR port. Plus, I've previously synced
a Visor (with the help of a third-party app that enabled IrDA communication
on the Visor) via IR, and I sync that Visor via the serial cradle, too.

Works great.  Libretto 50CT.

-e.

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To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 6:34 PM
Subject: Palm Pilot HotSync


Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 18:27:30 -0400
From: "Yeshiah Zalman" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Palm Pilot HotSync

Anyone successfully hotsync their Palm Pilot without
getting an Error 8009 on their libretto?

Yeshiah




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HD Purchase

2000-10-03 Thread Joseph Lee Pereira

Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 19:21:32 -0600
From: "Joseph Lee Pereira" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: HD Purchase

Greetings,
Someone please point me to a decent company where I can purchase a 
couple of hard drives for a few laptops, including a L110. Much 
appreciated!!

Joseph
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Re[2]: can't install CD in 70-CT

2000-10-03 Thread Viboon Chaojirapant

Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 11:05:05 +0900
From: Viboon Chaojirapant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re[2]: can't install CD in 70-CT

Hi Ken,

It is a shame that you have to sell away the L70
because the external CD-ROM drive can't work.
I can't get my CD-ROM to work in DOS too when
I just got my L70. In fact, because of that, I
can't install Win98 clean. However, there is an
alternative.

Anyway, in case you want one to give it one
last chance:

1. Get a DOS PC communication program. I used
   Norton Commander. I'm sure there are others
   out there that will enable you too connect
   2 PCs via a serial or parallel cable in DOS.
   Try http://www.bootdisk.com/.

2. Get a serial or parallel communication cable.
   Connect L70 and a desktop with it.

3. Boot L70 from floppy and maybe format the
   hard disk? I partitioned my 6GB disk into
   C and D drives.

4. Copy the DOS PC communication program into
   a desktop PC that is linked with your L70
   through the serial or parallel port.
   You also need a copy on your L70. I put it
   into D drive.

5. Activate the DOS PC communication program
   on both L70 and desktop. Make the desktop
   the master and L70 the slave. Make sure the
   2 PCs see each other.

6. Put your Win98 or whatever CD into the desktop's
   CD drive.

7. Copy all files from the Win98 CD into a
   directory in the L70's D drive. This may take
   a few hours, depending on the stability
   of the communication program. Norton Commander
   was pretty stable.

8. Restart your L70, boot from floppy again.

9. Go to the local copy of Win98 and run setup.exe.
   Install into C drive.

If you follow the above steps, you'll get a clean
copy of Win98 in L70. With Win98, you will then
have access to the CD-ROM, no problem at all
for me. From then on, you can install anything you
want through the CD drive, or anywhere.

It took me 2 weeks just to get Win98 into L70,
and it was an extremely frustrating experience.
I had tried various methods to make the PCMCIA
card CD-ROM work in DOS but fail. The Toshiba
website isn't helpful at all. Finally, I figured
the above mentioned method is worth a try and
indeed it was. In fact, it took me a day to
copy Win98SE into L70, and the next day I had
Win98SE running already.

Now I am happy with my L70 :).

Hope this helps.

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 From: Ken Rossman [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 10:40 PM
 To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: Sources for Librettos?

 Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2000 08:38:00 -0400
 From: Ken Rossman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Sources for Librettos?

 Ebay usually has a dozen or so at any given time.  Check the
 "completed sales" to get an idea what they are selling for.
 I have given up trying to get my 70CT to work with the CD.
 it is for sale now on ebay...

 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=457314711

 Ken


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Re[2]: Anybody in Thailand/Malaysia/Singapore?

2000-10-03 Thread Viboon Chaojirapant

Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 11:17:49 +0900
From: Viboon Chaojirapant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re[2]: Anybody in Thailand/Malaysia/Singapore?

Hi Fubar,

 I'm backpacking through these countries and carrying a dead Libretto.
 I'm unable to determine if the problem lies with my hard drive controller or 
 the hard drive itself. I understand that by slotting my drive into another 
 Libretto, or the drive from another Libretto into mine, I'd have an answer 
 in less time than it normally takes to boot...

From http://www.toshiba-asia.com/ --

Malaysia   Tele Dynamics Sdn Bhd  Tel: 60-3 7552988
   2A Jln 13/1, 46200 Petaling Jaya   Fax: 60-3 7575479
   Selangor Darul Ehsan

Singapore  Toshiba Data Dynamics Pte Ltd  Tel: 65-7418181
   10 Kallang Sector  Fax: 65-7482505
   Data Dynamics Building
   Singapore 349 280

Thailand   Chevalier OA (Thailand) LtdTel: 662-2244570
   Chevalier House,   Fax: 662 2240068
   540 Bamrungmuang Road
   Debsirin, Pomprab,
   Bangkok 10100

I think you will have a better chance of getting
someone who speaks English in Malaysia or Singapore.

Anyway, I think the best way to do is to go to one
of those malls where they sell laptops, and ask them
to check your hard disk for you. They can easily
check whether your hard disk is dead or alive.

Hope this helps.
   
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