Re: [LIB] Libretto/linux file system problem
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 09:30:50 +0200 From: Christian Gennerat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto/linux file system problem Matthew Hanson a écrit : Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 16:14:03 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto/linux file system problem Have downloaded a 993kb 2.2.19 patch 'patch-2.4.18.gz', and a 18,891mb full kernel 'linux-2.2.19.tar.gz' and am reading through installation instructions. Is anyone familiar with the procedure? Ooooh patch-2.4.18.gz is the diff file between 2.4.17 kernel and 2.4.18 do not use with 2.2.19 ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] 110 L2, side by side...
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 19:07:11 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] 110 L2, side by side... At 06:18 PM 17/04/2002 -0700, you wrote: Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 18:17:21 -0700 From: Renita Herrmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] 110 L2, side by side... I love both my libbies, Kevin. True, the 100 is a little chunky and short, drab in color, but it's rock solid, never complains, and has a NORMAL keyboard. The L3 is sleek and sexy, but unplugged I can't get the screen to brighten, a big minus (see below why I can't read the manual). The L3 I have has the Japanese keyboard, but all the keys are standard (i.e., the keyboard SAYS the open parenthesis is shift^8, but it's really shift^9. Funny, UK keyboards are just as bad ... my L100 has a UK keyboard so the pound sign is weird, the sign is in the wrong place and whatnot ... I guess its a good thing, I can touchtype so it doesn't annoy me but it confuses the absolute hell out of people I show it to who try to do anything except straight typing with it (and who can't touchtype) ... Like the little symbol between the shift and the number SAYS ampersand, but it's really the umbrella from a MAITAI! Umm ... what the heck is a MAITAI? Speaking of which I can't think of any symbol on a character that looks like an umbrella ... The longer screen is nice, but it's a lot of wasted space (pretty, but still wasted) since most of the work I do deals with only the standard screen width. I find the width of my L100 nice when I put it into virtual 800x600 and let it scroll ... does the L3 do that? And the manual is in Japanese. Raymond said to speak quietly to it in Japanese and it will behave. I did?!?! I can't imagine I'd ever say that. SHOUT at it in Japanese maybe but speak quietly? NEVER! ;-) - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] installing linux on the 50ct
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 19:09:58 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] installing linux on the 50ct At 07:18 PM 17/04/2002 -0700, you wrote: Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 02:16:26 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] installing linux on the 50ct Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 07:47:48 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well my experience with this is that as much as possible, keep the install process standard (which in most cases means boot off the CD and execute a standard install, adding options if necessary then making specific changes like X and PCMCIA once installation is complete) ... thats the way that the installers would have tested the most and is least likely to stuff up orhave unintended 'consequences'. Remember, there are many, many ways of installing and not all of them will have been rigorously tested. You can always copy the RPMs across after installation, just before you put the hard drive back in the libby ... Hey Raymond, Would you have any experience in tracking down drivers to get the Mandrake 7.1 installation disk to be seen on various CD-ROM drives? I gave up on PCMCIA CD-ROM drives under DOS or Linux boot disks ages ago when I jumped through hoops to get a DOS PCMCIA disk thingy working on a Portege 3110 for work ... I stick to IDE drives (be it internal or by putting the hard drive into a desktop). Having said that, by the looks of things, its actually easier to get parallel CD-ROM drives working under Linux or DOS boot disks than it is getting PCMCIA ones working ... go figure. I'm wondering if maybe I can install Mandrake right onto the L50 from a CD-ROM drive, I might have better luck at getting a clean installation than trying to clean up problems from installing on the desktop, and then plugging it into the L50. Well Mandrake is just a 'refined' version of Redhat ... Kudzu does an admirable job of reconfiguring and I've never had a problem with moving Linux installs from computer to computer or from desktop to laptop ... or rather I've never had a problem that I wouldn't have encountered if I installed Linux straight onto the target computer. - Raymond --- /~\ | | Does fuzzy logic tickle?| | ___ | My HDD has no reverse. How do I backup? | | /__/ +---| | / \ a y b o t | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | HTTP://www.raybot.net| | ICQ: 31756092 | Need help? Visit #Windows98 on DALNet! | \~/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] 110 L2, side by side...
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 12:30:10 + From: Jon C [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] 110 L2, side by side... Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 19:07:11 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] 110 L2, side by side... At 06:18 PM 17/04/2002 -0700, you wrote: Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 18:17:21 -0700 From: Renita Herrmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] 110 L2, side by side... I love both my libbies, Kevin. True, the 100 is a little chunky and short, drab in color, but it's rock solid, never complains, and has a NORMAL keyboard. The L3 is sleek and sexy, but unplugged I can't get the screen to brighten, a big minus (see below why I can't read the manual). The L3 I have has the Japanese keyboard, but all the keys are standard (i.e., the keyboard SAYS the open parenthesis is shift^8, but it's really shift^9. Funny, UK keyboards are just as bad ... my L100 has a UK keyboard so the pound sign is weird, the sign is in the wrong place and whatnot ... I guess its a good thing, I can touchtype so it doesn't annoy me but it confuses the absolute hell out of people I show it to who try to do anything except straight typing with it (and who can't touchtype) ... Strange that. I feel the same way about US keyboards. Why is the enter key so flippin' big? Personally I think on the UK / EU keyboards shift-4 should return the euro symbol and not the dollar.. (joke...!) Jon C (Not buying an L1/2/3 any more, someone's offered me a new Portege 3490 with 256mb / 40mb for GBP 500) -- ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] 110 L2, side by side...
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 08:29:26 -0400 From: Pres Waterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] 110 L2, side by side... have has the Japanese keyboard, but all the keys are standard (i.e., the keyboard SAYS the open parenthesis is shift^8, but it's really shift^9. Like the little symbol between the shift and the number SAYS ampersand, but it's really the umbrella from a MAITAI! The longer screen is nice, but it's I assume you are in English Windows. Have you installed a Japanese keyboard driver to make Windows read the keys as they are labeled? IOW have you run across kbdjp001.kbd? Pres Waterman, W2PW c/o Patchogue 112 Ford//Kia 112 Long Island Ford and Kia Dealer GO BILLS! ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] 110 L2, side by side...
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 13:45:31 + From: neil barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] 110 L2, side by side... Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 19:07:11 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] 110 L2, side by side... Funny, UK keyboards are just as bad ... my L100 has a UK keyboard so the pound sign is weird, the sign is in the wrong place and whatnot AHEM. And what's wrong with the UK keyboard layout? (Actually, on the 50 and 70 I prefer the US layout, the space bar is bigger, but there you go...) Neil _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Libretto/linux file system problem
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 14:59:44 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto/linux file system problem From: Fran [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 19:21:17 +1200 Patch incrementally on a plain 2.4.5. 2.four.five? Was that a typo? Arg... these version numbers are getting confusing. Christian said to upgrade the kernel from 2.2.15 to 2.2.19, which he said was a good one. Neil and I have 2.2.15 and I understood that if I patch, I should patch incrementally up from that to 2.2.18 or 2.2.19, yes? Easier to grab the 2.4.18 or 19 source whole. For some reason I downloaded the 2.2.18 patch, and the full 2.2.19 kernel at 18+mb. Are you saying that it would be easier to compile directly from 2.2.15 to 2.2.19? And that patching incrementally from 2.2.15 to 2.2.19 is a more complicated and lengthy process? If you patch then all the current kernel config options should stay. Shouldn't be _too_ much of a problem. Does this imply that if I don't patch, but compile 2.2.15 right to 2.2.19, that I'll loose config options? I've just (5mins ago) updated from 2.2.19 to 2.4.17 on my 110. Do you know if the procedure is written out somewhere for doing this that isn't too overly steeped in Linuxese? ;-P Matt (Questions, questions... it is a puzzlement.) On Thu, 18 Apr 2002 16:34, you wrote: Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 08:28:14 +1200 From: Fran [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2.2.15 had a problem with RieserFS. Slack came with a patch for that kernel to fix it. I would upgrade the kernel. Fran :):):) Fran, Do you know if the process of patching from 2.2.15 to 2.2.18 a simple or complicated process for a linux newbie? Am I right in deducing from reading through a few documents that patches need to be added incrementally... 2.2.15, 2.2.16, 2.2.17, 2.2.18? Neil wrote out a whole process of installing a small, customized installation of Mandrake 7.1 on a L50 750mb HDD for me. But I've been having problems with it, and now it seems he's having problems with 7.1... though maybe not related ones. My head spins out of control trying to decipher Linux configuration files. I'm guessing that patching from 2.2.15 to 2.2.18 is going to take a lot of analysis of my particular installation... yes? Cheers, Matt On Fri, 12 Apr 2002 19:43, you wrote: Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 07:40:44 From: neil barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto/linux file system problem From: Fran [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto/linux file system problem Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 13:13:00 -0700 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 08:12:13 +1200 From: Fran [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto/linux file system problem What kernel? 2.2.15. But it got worse - to the extent that trying to list half the files in the /home directory was crashing the calling program -so I updated the backups that I could, and rebuilt last night.I think I will go on to the Debian distribution, when I've downloaded another couple of disks - the testing package seems reasonably stable and hasenough modern libraries that I can use recent software, whichis a minor problem with M7.1 Thanks, Neil _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Libretto/linux file system problem
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 15:18:32 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto/linux file system problem Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 09:30:50 +0200 From: Christian Gennerat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matthew Hanson a écrit : Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 16:14:03 + From: Matthew Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Libretto/linux file system problem Have downloaded a 993kb 2.2.19 patch 'patch-2.4.18.gz', and a 18,891mb full kernel 'linux-2.2.19.tar.gz' and am reading through installation instructions. Is anyone familiar with the procedure? Ooooh patch-2.4.18.gz is the diff file between 2.4.17 kernel and 2.4.18 do not use with 2.2.19 Aaack! Good you noticed that Christian. I thought I'd made a typo writing 'patch-2.4.18.gz'. But I did in fact download that file, and not the 'patch-2.2.19.gz' file. Fran seemed to confirm that in order to patch up from 2.2.15, it has to be done incrementally - 2.2.15, 2.2.17, 2.2.18, 2.2.19. And that maybe compiling right to 2.2.19 would be less work. Tho' she seemed to imply that some settings may be lost... yes? I do have 'linux-2.2.19.tar.gz' and am wondering if the instructions I found here http://bse.die.ms/kerncomp.txt would work with the tiny installation of Mandrake 7.1 that Neil customized for a 750mb L50 HDD. Matt _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
[LIB] unsubscribe
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