Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition

2002-05-09 Thread Raymond

Date: Thu,  9 May 2002 23:31:40 -0700
From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition

Quoting neil barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 06:04:00 +
> From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition
> 
> 
> >Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 04:27:39 +
> >From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition
> >
> >>From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> >>Very good, Matthew, the player will end up listening to itself so you'll
> >>end up with MP3s controlling the MP3 player ... I can think of many songs
> >>that'll have one or more of those keywords in them.
> >
> >Hmm... that hadn't occurred to me.  But I was always under the impression
> >that each person had to train voice recognition software to recognize
> >his/her particular voice.  I would think that it would be extremely
> >difficult for software to pick out particular words in the sound of music
> >being played.
> 
> The problem is more likely to be that it can't separate you out from the 
> music it's playing. Hence clever filters that listen to the music and to you
> 
> and make sure there's as little of the music on your signal as possible. 
> Tricky, but doable, but computationally expensive unless you happen to have
> 
> a handy DSP.

Of course, you do have to ask yourself, how hard can it be to push a button? For
not an awful lot more than $10 you could build a suitable control module with a
PIC16F84 and standard code fragments available around the 'net that'll plug into
the libby's serial port (or perhaps you could even bring the serial port lines
out yourself and do away with the minidock), with a few buttons that you can
arrange nicely on your steering wheel, gear stick or wherever you could reach
them without taking your eyes off the road and control things that way. I'm
pretty sure there's a serial control plugin for Winamp (originally designed to
let a Palm or HP calculator control Winamp) that could be used for this purpose
...


- Raymond



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Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition

2002-05-09 Thread neil barnes

Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 06:09:01 +
From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition


>Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 05:20:29 +
>From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition
>
>>From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>>Of course, you could use one lib to do the playback, and one lib to do the
>>voice recognition...
>
>This might be the biggest stumbling block.  If voice recognition software
>requires as much of the system resources as the MP3 player, the L70 
>wouldn't
>cut it, would it?  How about the L110?

Dunno, never tried it.  Find the software, make it work, use P5Mon or 
similar to see how much processor it's using. Or just try it. There's a dos 
version of mgp123 which doesn't use any great amount of processor power, but 
is a little restricted in its capabilities (it knowa bout start and stop!)

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Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition

2002-05-09 Thread neil barnes

Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 06:04:00 +
From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition


>Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 04:27:39 +
>From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition
>
>>From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>>Very good, Matthew, the player will end up listening to itself so you'll
>>end up with MP3s controlling the MP3 player ... I can think of many songs
>>that'll have one or more of those keywords in them.
>
>Hmm... that hadn't occurred to me.  But I was always under the impression
>that each person had to train voice recognition software to recognize
>his/her particular voice.  I would think that it would be extremely
>difficult for software to pick out particular words in the sound of music
>being played.

The problem is more likely to be that it can't separate you out from the 
music it's playing. Hence clever filters that listen to the music and to you 
and make sure there's as little of the music on your signal as possible. 
Tricky, but doable, but computationally expensive unless you happen to have 
a handy DSP.

>
>That said, I'm amazed what voice recognition is cabable of on the phone
>these days.

Check out http://digitalacoustics.com/  I wrote 
the code that cleans up the signal before it gets to the voice recognition 
section.

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Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition

2002-05-09 Thread Matthew Hanson

Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 05:20:29 +
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition

>From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>I've been wondering if it'd be possible to set up voice recognition to 
>>control MP3 playback in the car.  I'd love to be able to say UP for louder 
>>volume, DOWN for lower volume, NEXT for the next track, BACK for the 
>>previous track, STOP, START, CUE FORWARD, CUE BACKWARD etc.  Who was it 
>>that suggested this a few months back for GPS software, and got me 
>>thinking??
>
>W, the voice recognition should be fairly easy (though it may want 
>more processor time than the mp3 player is willing to give up...) but the 
>adaptive filtering to get rid of all the other noise (like the mp3 audio 
>output!) might be a bit...er...interesting.

Yeah... microphone placement would be important if it's going to work at 
all.  How about a set of headphones with those directional mics.  Actually 
would only need a directional mic like the ones used in aviation headsets  
that you position right up to your mouth

>Of course, you could use one lib to do the playback, and one lib to do the 
>voice recognition...

This might be the biggest stumbling block.  If voice recognition software 
requires as much of the system resources as the MP3 player, the L70 wouldn't 
cut it, would it?  How about the L110?

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Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition

2002-05-09 Thread Matthew Hanson

Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 04:27:39 +
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Soldering Voice Recognition

>From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Quoting Matthew Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > I've been wondering if it'd be possible to set up voice recognition > to 
>control MP3 playback in the car.  I'd love to be able to say UP > for 
>louder volume, DOWN for lower volume, NEXT for the next track, > BACK for 
>the previous track, STOP, START, CUE FORWARD, CUE BACKWARD > etc.  Who was 
>it that
>
>Very good, Matthew, the player will end up listening to itself so you'll 
>end up with MP3s controlling the MP3 player ... I can think of many songs 
>that'll have one or more of those keywords in them.

Hmm... that hadn't occurred to me.  But I was always under the impression 
that each person had to train voice recognition software to recognize 
his/her particular voice.  I would think that it would be extremely 
difficult for software to pick out particular words in the sound of music 
being played.

That said, I'm amazed what voice recognition is cabable of on the phone 
these days.  It didn't take software trained to my voice for the UPS 
tracking line to recognize an alpha-numeric code the first tiume I read it 
off the other day!  Wonder if it could do as well with music playing in the 
background.

M.

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Re: [LIB] Keyboard question

2002-05-09 Thread brett

Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 12:50:07 +0900
From: "brett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Keyboard question

Raymond,

What you say is true (reprogramming / mapping etc).

I'll get a better photo of the Toshiba Libretto L5, and Sony Vaios as soon as I get a 
chance (Sony, probably later today).

-Brett

On 09/May/2002 16:31:11, Raymond  wrote:
> Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 07:28:46 +0800
> From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [LIB] Keyboard question
> 
> At 02:50 PM 9/05/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 14:45:24 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: Brett Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: [LIB] Keyboard question
> >
> >Ricardo,
> >
> >It has all the punctuation of a normal Japanese
> >Keyboard.
> >
> >http://shop.conics.net/jpn-keyboard/keys-explained-02.jpg
> >
> >this is a better picture of a normal Japanese
> >keyboard.
> 
> Actually, it depends on the keyboard. I do recall on a Japanese Thinkpad 
> 240 there were a few more keys than that (for instance the left shift key 
> was a single square because they squeezed an extra key in there, the upper 
> row of numbers actually lined up with the row below because there wasn't 
> enough room to displace them to the left and so on) ... I could imagine 
> some scancodes would be quite different to a 'normal' keyboard (besides 
> which that keyboard on that website isn't even 'normal' anyway, the other 
> markings are British! Just look at the " above the 2 key!) ;-)
> 
> Having said that all you'd need to do is reprogram that lookup table and 
> you'll be fine ... plus you'll have some extra keys to do other things with!
> 
> 
> - Raymond
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[LIB] L1x0 at 300+MHz- doesn't work!

2002-05-09 Thread Gennadiy Tsygan

Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 22:01:52 -0400
From: "Gennadiy Tsygan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: L1x0 at 300+MHz- doesn't work!

I decided to take a plunge and try to increase a bus speed of my L110. When
I moved up to 75MHz bus, the computer would constantly reboot after the OS
selection screen. Too bad. 266 MHz may be the limit for 1x0 generation. Or
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Re: [LIB] Keyboard question

2002-05-09 Thread Raymond

Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 07:28:46 +0800
From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Keyboard question

At 02:50 PM 9/05/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 14:45:24 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Brett Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [LIB] Keyboard question
>
>Ricardo,
>
>It has all the punctuation of a normal Japanese
>Keyboard.
>
>http://shop.conics.net/jpn-keyboard/keys-explained-02.jpg
>
>this is a better picture of a normal Japanese
>keyboard.

Actually, it depends on the keyboard. I do recall on a Japanese Thinkpad 
240 there were a few more keys than that (for instance the left shift key 
was a single square because they squeezed an extra key in there, the upper 
row of numbers actually lined up with the row below because there wasn't 
enough room to displace them to the left and so on) ... I could imagine 
some scancodes would be quite different to a 'normal' keyboard (besides 
which that keyboard on that website isn't even 'normal' anyway, the other 
markings are British! Just look at the " above the 2 key!) ;-)

Having said that all you'd need to do is reprogram that lookup table and 
you'll be fine ... plus you'll have some extra keys to do other things with!


- Raymond

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RE: spoofing (was Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus)

2002-05-09 Thread Raymond

Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 07:22:50 +0800
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Subject: RE: spoofing (was Re: [LIB] W32.Klez.gen@mm virus)

At 07:15 AM 9/05/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 15:15:53 +0100
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>
>Keith wrote:
> > >I had one of those "bounces" as well - they are not genuine
> > bounces.  If the
> >
> > How can you tell?
>
>One clue is the mismatch between the "from" address and the routing
>information in the headers.  The from field shows the address of the
>postmaster at your local domain ([EMAIL PROTECTED] in my case), to
>make it look like a genuine system message. But the routing history showed
>it had in fact originated from an ISP in Nepal (!).
>Another clue is the fact that the message itself is html - genuine
>automatically generated bounce notifications are invariably in plain text.

Actually, the headers did match up on the one I got (the earthlink one, I 
think it was the one I posted onto the list, that was all the header info I 
got) and it WAS a plain text email with a virus attachment ...

*sigh* I wonder how far THIS email will go before it gets under control ...


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[LIB] I have subscribed with my other email address

2002-05-09 Thread Brett Bennett

Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 14:57:31 -0700 (PDT)
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I have subscribed with my other email address, it will
be easier to keep track of this list in Netscape mail.

I will unsubscribe this email address (you can still
send email here if you want).

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Re: [LIB] Keyboard question

2002-05-09 Thread Brett Bennett

Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 14:45:24 -0700 (PDT)
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Ricardo,

It has all the punctuation of a normal Japanese
Keyboard.

http://shop.conics.net/jpn-keyboard/keys-explained-02.jpg

this is a better picture of a normal Japanese
keyboard.

-Brett
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> Subject: Keyboard question
> 
> Just wondering, do L5 Japanese keyboards have the
> "´" character on them?
> It's hard to tell from the pictures on the net... In
> Portuguese, the
> "`", """ and "´" characters are extremelly useful! 
>  
> Thanks for helps and hints,
>  
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RE: [LIB] Busted L50-60-70...

2002-05-09 Thread neil barnes

Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 21:04:02 +
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Subject: RE: [LIB] Busted L50-60-70...


>Date: Wed, 8 May 2002 21:55:32 -0400
>From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=B7TechnoDragon=B7?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: [LIB] Busted L50-60-70...
>
> >= Original Message From "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>=
> >>Sounds like I can help you. Email me again in 3 weeks to remind me if 
>you
> >>don't otherwise solve it
> >
> >Doh! And here I was, trying to remember where I'd seen the insides of a 
>50
> >recently :)
>
>  Hey, first come, first serve. :) I just want it fixed by my trip this
>summer. I can't get a L100 trade-in, so I'm fixing up every tiny little
>problem with this current one, no matter how insignificant.

Techno,

You misunderstand me :) I have a dead mobo from Pres in my possession - he's 
happy for me to send you the offending microswitch. Drop me a line off-list 
with your postal address and I'll get it off to you.

Alternatively, I should be in the states in a month or so (though I can't be 
exact as to the date yet) if you'd rather avoid the vagaries of 
transatlantic mail.

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Re: RES: [LIB] Keyboard question

2002-05-09 Thread neil barnes

Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 17:33:46 +
From: "neil barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RES: [LIB] Keyboard question

>Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 17:02:12 +0800
>From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: RES: [LIB] Keyboard question
>

>Of course, you do realize you'll now have to document your experiences to
>the rest of us so you can help our money go away faster ... or not as the
>case may be ... ;-)

I think in the interests of science, he should buy us one each to make sure 
he's examining it properly!

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RE: [LIB] Busted L50-60-70...

2002-05-09 Thread ·TechnoDragon·

Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 13:07:11 -0400
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=B7TechnoDragon=B7?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [LIB] Busted L50-60-70...

>= Original Message From "Alan Middleton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
=
>There is a busted libretto 50 on ebay at the moment -
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2022747146
>
>Don't know if it is exactly the parts you need since the screen has been
removed and may have damaged the switch.
>
>No knowledge of the seller, has a rating of 0 and is based in the uk so you
may not want to get involved

 I appreciate lookign out fo rme, but that'll be a bit much for just a
little switch. £50 is like $100 or so. Plus, it has a bunch of accessories
that I'd have to sell off. I've found myself stuck with that type of garbage
before, buying a busted lot of stuff and saying "I can sell off the rest and
make a profit" but not. I still have an i-opener with a busted bios socket
that I just tossed into a dumpster yesterday. Screen is good, but noone wanted
it, not even at $5, so it's gone now. I'm not playing that game ever again, I
want just the switch, nothing else from the libretto that comes attached with
it. I'm sick and tired of loosing and wasting money.

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[LIB] I hope I remember this.....

2002-05-09 Thread Chester Prudhomme

Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 10:05:40 -0700
From: Chester Prudhomme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: I hope I remember this.

...correctly!? A couple of months ago somebody posted a link to a retail
site (computergeeks.com maybe?)  that had a great deal on electronic tablets ($20
bucks or so?). A couple of posters said that they would be ordering one. I'm
wondering how they are being used and what the reviews of them are now that they
have been used for awhile?

Chester





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