Re: [LIB] Help

2002-11-11 Thread barnacle
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 06:42:33 +
From: barnacle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Help

On Monday 11 Nov 2002 1:28 am, you wrote:
 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:20:50 +0800
 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] Help

 At 07:54 AM 10/11/2002 -0800, you wrote:
 Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 15:43:45 +

 From: barnacle [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Subject: Re: [LIB] Help
 
 On Sunday 10 Nov 2002 3:50 pm, you wrote:
   Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 15:43:14 + (GMT Standard Time)
   From: Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: [LIB] Help
 
 Ian - could I trouble you to lose the HTML? It's kinda hard to read...
 
   Hi Neil=0D
   =0D
   I have just tried starting it using F8 no joy I get not ready
   message.=0D =0D
   The Floppy / CD tries to start ie you get an initial noise from them
   then they stop.=0D
   =0D
   Ian
 
 How about the boot? I'm suspicious of the drive itself.

 Remember, the PCMCIA floppy drive only works as a standard floppy drive on
 bootup. Once you've booted the OS, you need drivers to run it (regardless
 of the OS - Windows95, 98, NT, 2k, Linux, etc.).

Is this necessarily so? My recollection is that 95 from a standard 
installation disk image uses the bios to address the floppy; though having 
loaded a 95 from the original toshiba floppies last week I was surprised to 
find that it too failed to see the floppy (which is, I submit, a bit rich!). 
I'm not inclined to experiment further because I just used 95 as a vehicle to 
get 98 and linux cd images on the HD for daughter's machine.

Either way, checking that the Lib boots from the floppy, and can see the 
floppy if booted from the HD in dos mode (*not* a dos start from within 
windows) is a good first test.

Again, it would be good if Ian could remove the HTML.

Neil




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Re: [LIB] Recommendations for Great GPS software?

2002-11-11 Thread Kevin McClelland
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 06:47:22 -0800 (PST)
From: Kevin McClelland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Recommendations for Great GPS software?

Richard T. Waters wrote:

 I've been using the rand Mcnally GPS with Delorme
 Street Atlas 7.  Since I upgraded
 to Windows 2000 I've noticed a great improvement in
the
 GPS initialization time.
 
 As far as software - I am waffling between SA 9 and SA
 2003.  I ain't so sure that
 2003 is better, and the requirements seem high. 
 TeleType (www.teletype.com) got my
 interest when they were reviewed in PC magazine and
 compared favorably to in car
 systems.  I have not heard anything else about them.

I have the Rand McNally GPS receiver and the GPS
software it came with. A little dated - 2000 edition,
but it works. It does have a nifty feature that puts a
compass/altitude/speed indicator next to it. However, I
have not been able to get it to reilably work under
Win2K. Refuses to regognize the GPS over the serial
connection. It also uses a PS2 power tap for power,
although there is a car adapter available. Quick
initialization when it works though, but no good inside
buildings.

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Re: [LIB] Help

2002-11-11 Thread Raymond
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:43:36 +0800
From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Help

At 01:08 AM 11/11/2002 -0800, you wrote:

Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 06:42:33 +
From: barnacle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Help


snip


t (regardless
 of the OS - Windows95, 98, NT, 2k, Linux, etc.).

Is this necessarily so? My recollection is that 95 from a standard
installation disk image uses the bios to address the floppy; though having
loaded a 95 from the original toshiba floppies last week I was surprised to
find that it too failed to see the floppy (which is, I submit, a bit rich!).


Well firstly, the BIOS only treats the floppy as a standard floppy if it's 
seen on bootup (ie. you put the FDD in after bootup and without drivers it 
won't work anyway). Secondly, even if you boot with the floppy in, the 
moment that any program tries to initialize or query the PCMCIA slots AS 
PCMCIA slots (remember, the BIOS puts those slots into a 'weird' mode that 
lets the BIOS directly access the FDD), the BIOS lets go of the FDD. I 
found this out the hard way when I tried to do a floppy install of Linux 
but using a boot disk that enabled a PCMCIA CD-ROM drive (I had both the 
FDD and CD plugged in using the EPR). The moment it hit the code that 
initialized the PCMCIA slots (to access the CD-ROM drive), I lost FDD 
access ... I *think* I confirmed this in the list somewhere, otherwise it 
was on a website somewhere the location of which I've long since forgotten 
... heh


I'm not inclined to experiment further because I just used 95 as a vehicle to
get 98 and linux cd images on the HD for daughter's machine.


Wouldn't a drive converter be a lot easier/faster? Why would you need 95 
first to get 98 onto there?


Either way, checking that the Lib boots from the floppy, and can see the
floppy if booted from the HD in dos mode (*not* a dos start from within
windows) is a good first test.


Definitely. Otherwise everything else we've said is irrelevant ... heh
Make sure it's safe mode command prompt ... I don't know if CnC services 
are loaded on a standard command line boot. The boot from floppy test 
should give a definative answer anyway.


Again, it would be good if Ian could remove the HTML.


Ditto ... heh


- Raymond

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Re: [LIB] Help

2002-11-11 Thread Pres Waterman
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:21:11 -0500
From: Pres Waterman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Help


Again, it would be good if Ian could remove the HTML.


He's using Incredimail, a bloatware/spyware useless thing that makes a 3k
message into about a 30k fat pretty thing that resists editing.

But I have nothing bad to say!
;)

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[LIB] WTB: extra hard drive bracket

2002-11-11 Thread David Nedved
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:11:15 -0500
From: David Nedved [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: WTB: extra hard drive bracket

Hi All,

Anyone have an extra hard drive bracket for a L110 (probably same as 50-110)
to sell?  I'm swapping drives rather regularly, and getting tired of having
to deal with 4 screws, when it really should be just two (and optional ones
at that...).

I'm in the US, and have money ready to go in my paypal account...

Thanks in advance,

David



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Re: [LIB] WTB: extra hard drive bracket

2002-11-11 Thread Raymond
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 07:55:59 +0800
From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] WTB: extra hard drive bracket

At 02:18 PM 11/11/2002 -0800, you wrote:

Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 17:11:15 -0500
From: David Nedved [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: WTB: extra hard drive bracket

Hi All,

Anyone have an extra hard drive bracket for a L110 (probably same as 50-110)
to sell?  I'm swapping drives rather regularly, and getting tired of having
to deal with 4 screws, when it really should be just two (and optional ones
at that...).


I had a bit of a poke around at one stage but gave up ... it's probably a 
lot easier to either get a piece of stiff plastic and bend it into the 
right shape and drill holes in the right places (I'd say the sorta stuff 
that one finds as the insulating sheet in mains power supplies should be 
plenty strong enough) or use a piece of packing strip, again bent to the 
right shape and either glued to the drive (if you're willing to do that) or 
again drilled in the right places.


- Raymond

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Re: [LIB] Help

2002-11-11 Thread Raymond
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 08:04:04 +0800
From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Help

At 09:06 AM 11/11/2002 -0800, you wrote:

Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 16:36:05 +
From: barnacle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Help

On Monday 11 Nov 2002 3:50 pm, you wrote:
 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:43:36 +0800
 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] Help



snip


ppy (which is, I submit, a bit
  rich!).

 Well firstly, the BIOS only treats the floppy as a standard floppy if it's
 seen on bootup (ie. you put the FDD in after bootup and without drivers it

That may be where I have seen it - perhaps I've always had the floppy plugged
in when I needed it and booted in w95 :)
Having said that, I'm pretty sure I never installed a driver under w95, while
w98 was a nightmare if you got the wrong driver.


I'd hazard a guess that *maybe* Win95 doesn't, by default, try to 
initialize the PCMCIA cards (I recall after install, having to double click 
on the PCMCIA icon in control panel to actually install the 32 bit access 
drivers). Perhaps until you do that, Win95 won't initialize PCMCIA on boot 
and hence won't knock the BIOS off it's special FDD access routines when in 
contrast, Win98 will initialize PCMCIA straight away?


That may have been confirmed by me. What happens under linux is that the 
first
load of the floppy is via the bios. Thereafter linux installs its own floppy
drivers which bypass the bios, and lo and behold there ain't no floppy
there... bugger!

Hmm ... nah it was definitely the PCMCIA boot disk that killed it (at the 
specific point that it initialized the PCMCIA controller) ... it was happy 
when I used a standard boot disk (but then I had other unrelated problems).


 I'm not inclined to experiment further because I just used 95 as a vehicle
  to get 98 and linux cd images on the HD for daughter's machine.

 Wouldn't a drive converter be a lot easier/faster? Why would you need 95
 first to get 98 onto there?

I have so many drives (5) hanging off the desktop machine it wasn't worth the
hassle of doing it that way - windows gets unhappy with too many drives, it
seems, and throws major wobblies.


Does it? Win98SE/WinNT/Win2k seemed quite happy in my old machine (2 RAID 
arrays of 2 drives each, 2 CD-ROM drives, 2 extra hard drives plus parallel 
zip drive plus numerous mapped drives ;-)

Why don't you just temporarily replace one drive with the libby (just long 
enough to do the file copy)?


So, having a big heap of floppies, I copied them to the disk,


Good lord! How long did *that* take?!?!



 then installed
from the hd, then (the cd rom being recognised in the pcmcia) copied the w98
and linux cd to the hd, then loaded w98, then loaded linux - which has
sensible drivers and recognises the pc network card -


Gee you had more luck that I did! Linux was a headache to get working 
(including 2 kernel recompiles) just to get PCMCIA and networking ... and I 
still haven't really got my FDD working properly yet ... not that I tried 
very hard since ... hehe

On and this is RH6.2 ... does Mandrake have better support (not that I can 
be bothered reinstalling it)?


so I could get the
windows drivers from the net... there have to be easier ways, but now
daughter has a dual boot mandrake/w98 machine that works on our local
network.

(I missed out the bit where I loaded W2k and then took it off again)


Hehe ... off floppies again I presume? ;-)


- Raymond

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[LIB] New to list - USB question..

2002-11-11 Thread Aaron Choate
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:13:48 -0700
From: Aaron Choate [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: New to list - USB question..

Hi all!  I've just become the proud owner of a Libretto 50 CT that I
intend to use for a custom piece of DOS software that communicates with
and records the activity of my car's computer - but I'd also like to use
it as a dumping point for my digital camera when I'm on the road, but in
order to do this, I need to find a USB option for it.  I'm pretty sure
most of the USB cards they sell won't work (requires Cardbus PCMCIA
socket) -- is there another option?

You'll forgive me if this is one of those has been asked 1 times
questions that us new guys often ask :)

-Aaron





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Re: [LIB] New to list - USB question..

2002-11-11 Thread Raymond
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:27:55 +0800
From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] New to list - USB question..

At 05:18 PM 11/11/2002 -0800, you wrote:

Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:13:48 -0700
From: Aaron Choate [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: New to list - USB question..

Hi all!  I've just become the proud owner of a Libretto 50 CT that I
intend to use for a custom piece of DOS software that communicates with
and records the activity of my car's computer - but I'd also like to use
it as a dumping point for my digital camera when I'm on the road, but in
order to do this, I need to find a USB option for it.  I'm pretty sure
most of the USB cards they sell won't work (requires Cardbus PCMCIA
socket) -- is there another option?


Yup as far as we know there is no way of getting USB working on the 50/70CT 
... what sort of memory card does your camera use? 99.9% of digital cameras 
use SmartMedia, SecureDigital/MMC, CompactFlash or Memory Stick, for all of 
these you can get PCMCIA readers for them (which don't require cardbus). 
Indeed, in most cases, the readers pick up using the standard drivers 
available under Win95 and above!

For cards with controllers (mostly CompactFlash), these readers are very 
cheap ($10USD perhaps), for controller-less cards (SmartMedia, *possibly* 
MS and SD/MMC but I'm not sure) the readers are a bit more expensive. Note 
that especially with a controller-less card, do NOT remove the card before 
you 'stop' and make sure you don't suddenly shut down or hibernate without 
ejecting the card during a write, otherwise you run a very real risk of 
damaging the card (take it from someone who has!).


Hope this helps!

- Raymond

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Re: [LIB] Deadline on LCD of my 50CT!!!!

2002-11-11 Thread tradelink tradelink
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 09:30:57 +0800 (CST)
From: =?big5?q?tradelink=20tradelink?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Deadline on LCD of my 50CT

Woo... ZSNES (DOS version) still a bit slow to run on
my 50ct (75MHz).

BTW, I have take the whole LCD panel apart and check
all the connectors, also tried to pressure anywhere on
and beside LCD..., but still nothing change.

Bad luck..

Thanks anyway to you all!

 --- David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ªº¶l¥ó¤º®e¡G Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 18:51:50 -0800
(PST)
 From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] Deadline on LCD of my 50CT
 
 Hmmm!  Another classic videogame to download! =)
 
 
 
 I've got the same thing going on the very top row of
 my L110 now and then.  It
 goes away when I open and close/flex the lid a bit,
 so I'm pretty sure it's the
 result of applying pressure to the mouse and
 resulting pressure applied to the
 lid area.  Just another one of those 'great' ideas
 that should have been
 encased in a pure metal casing instead of the more
 flexible plastic Librettos
 use in their lids.
 
 Anyways, pretty much take it apart, check the
 connectors, make sure
 everything's seated well and contacts are clean and
 put it back together again.
  If it is a bad LCD panel, then it's a lot
 harder/impossible to fix, so you may
 be stuck there.  However, I think you'll have a good
 chance of fixing the line
 problem since on mine, it goes away when the contact
 point flexes the right
 way.
 
 d =)
 
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[LIB] Install RH 7.2 on Libretto 50ct

2002-11-11 Thread tradelink tradelink
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 10:02:33 +0800 (CST)
From: =?big5?q?tradelink=20tradelink?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Install RH 7.2 on Libretto 50ct

Someone may ask similar questions before. However,
even I have tried to search through the whole mailing
list on this, I still can't solve my problem

Here is my story :-

1) Config. 
Libretto 50ct
32MB ram
6.4GB IBM harddisk
PCMCIA floppy
Panasonic PCMCIA CDROM
EagleTec PCMCIA 10/100Mb ethernet card

2) OS and partition info.
Partition 1 - 1.5Gb FAT32 with WIN95 installed
Partition 2 - 1.5Gb FAT16 with RH 7.2 files (2CD)
Partition 3 - 3Gb not used yet

3) Aim
To install RH 7.2 to Partition 3 and config WIN95 /
RH7.2 dual boot system.

My fail experience.. :

1) Boot up Libretto with DOS and PCMCIA cdrom support,
run autoboot.bat from cdrom.
RESULT : RH 7.2 can't recognize my CDROM and ask me
for the driver (I have no linux driver for CDDROM)

2) Copy all RH 7.2 files to partition 2 (FAT16) by
WIN95 and boot up with DOS.  Run autoboot.bat from
partition2.
RESULT : I can select installation from HD and either
/dev/hda1 /dev/hda5 can be chosen as RH image drive,
but RH can't find my RH files no matter what directory
I input!!!  Actually, I copy the complete directory
structure from RH CDs to root of partition 2, that's
mean dir RedHat is located at the root of partition 2,
so nothing I need to input at directory field, Right?

3) Mount RH CDs to my desktop RH 6.2 and setup it
accessible from FTP.  Then, run autoboot.bat again and
select FTP installation with my PCMCIA ethernet card
plug in Libretto.
RESULT : Able to connect to FTP and download some
files, but the installation process stop after a while
due to some what file extraction error!!

OOO I tried these all out last night and
able to get 2 hrs sleep only!!!

Please help!!!

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Re: [LIB] Install RH 7.2 on Libretto 50ct

2002-11-11 Thread Raymond
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:02:41 +0800
From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Install RH 7.2 on Libretto 50ct

Well I can tell you right now that I've had almost *exactly* the same 
problem and tried the same things (but in my case it was Red Hat 6.2 which 
is probably why you didn't find it in the archives).

In short however, I found that by far the easiest way of doing things is to 
slap on a drive converter and temporarily put it into your desktop as the 
only hard drive (disconnect all the other hard drives). Then do a normal 
install (using the desktop's CD-ROM drive) but do NOT set up X and do not 
tell it to use a graphical login. Also don't install any 'options' that may 
be specific to your desktop. Then put the hard drive into your laptop, let 
Kudzu run (to reconfigure things for the libby), then run Xconfigurator to 
set up X, then do any other setup/recompiles you need to get sound, PCMCIA, 
etc. working.

Hope this helps!

- Raymond



At 06:10 PM 11/11/2002 -0800, you wrote:
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 10:02:33 +0800 (CST)
From: =?big5?q?tradelink=20tradelink?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Install RH 7.2 on Libretto 50ct

Someone may ask similar questions before. However,
even I have tried to search through the whole mailing
list on this, I still can't solve my problem


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Re: [LIB] Help

2002-11-11 Thread barnacle
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 05:58:45 +
From: barnacle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Help

On Tuesday 12 Nov 2002 12:10 am, you wrote:
 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 08:04:04 +0800
 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 I have so many drives (5) hanging off the desktop machine it wasn't worth
  the hassle of doing it that way - windows gets unhappy with too many
  drives, it seems, and throws major wobblies.

 Does it? Win98SE/WinNT/Win2k seemed quite happy in my old machine (2 RAID
 arrays of 2 drives each, 2 CD-ROM drives, 2 extra hard drives plus parallel
 zip drive plus numerous mapped drives ;-)

Dunno what the problem is - just that trying to use the network and a big 
drive in certain positions crashes w2k every time. Ok under linux.


 Why don't you just temporarily replace one drive with the libby (just long
 enough to do the file copy)?

 So, having a big heap of floppies, I copied them to the disk,

 Good lord! How long did *that* take?!?!

Only an hour or so...


   then installed
 from the hd, then (the cd rom being recognised in the pcmcia) copied the
  w98 and linux cd to the hd, then loaded w98, then loaded linux - which
  has sensible drivers and recognises the pc network card -

 Gee you had more luck that I did! Linux was a headache to get working
 (including 2 kernel recompiles) just to get PCMCIA and networking ... and I
 still haven't really got my FDD working properly yet ... not that I tried
 very hard since ... hehe

 On and this is RH6.2 ... does Mandrake have better support (not that I can
 be bothered reinstalling it)?

The best option I found on the lib50/70 was Mandrake 7.1 - anything later 
needs too much memory to load, though it will work if you jump through hoops 
with another machine, the later kde is so slow it's not worth the effort. 
Boot from a floppy, install from the hard drive. Never bothered with the 
floppy, I use it so rarely.

Neil



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Re: [LIB] WTB: extra hard drive bracket

2002-11-11 Thread David Chien
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:02:25 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: [LIB] WTB: extra hard drive bracket

www.micsol.com carries all parts.

my site for the exploded parts diagram to figure out what to order.

www.impactcomputers.com also carries many parts, and they have pictures of
everything they sell.

Micsol for sure has what you want - the drive handle, think impact does as
well, but I haven't checked today.

d =)

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Re: [LIB] New to list - USB question..

2002-11-11 Thread David Chien
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:08:09 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: [LIB] New to list - USB question..

Dont' bother. No such thing as a USB adapter for L50's because they simply
dont' make any for the 16-bit PCMCIA port it has.

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However, you can easily download all of the images to your Libretto through a
cheap PCMCIA flash card adapter.  Here, I've got one for CompactFlash and
SmartMedia cards, and both work great.  Just pull the card out from the camera,
insert into adapter, insert into Libretto and poof! it shows up like a
removable HD.  Very nice and faster than USB transfers, too!

This is how I do it on my Libretto 110, too.  

I was in NY a few months back, and with my L110 in a day carry case, and my
Fuji 40i in my belt case, I easily travelled up and down Manhatten taking
pictures all day long w/o worry.  Run out of flash memory?  Just turn on the
Libretto, dump the images to the HD, and start with empty flash cards for
another couple hundred pictures on the go.  

Next time I go, I'll be ready with my PCMCIA GPS unit as well - never need a
paper map ever again with MapPoint!  

(Thankfully, Microsoft does give away freebies when you signup for their local
presentations and events now and then.  Good thing to pickup free software. 
Was able to get both Office 97 and MapPoint for free in the past.)



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Re: [LIB] Deadline on LCD of my 50CT!!!!

2002-11-11 Thread David Chien
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 22:15:33 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: [LIB] Deadline on LCD of my 50CT

 Woo... ZSNES (DOS version) still a bit slow to run on
 my 50ct (75MHz).

  Ran Genecyst Sega Genesis emulator at full speed on my overclocked to 100Mhz
L50/J when I had it years ago w/o any problems.  Just the perfect thing waiting
around during jury duty =)  

  So, maybe ZSNES isn't as optimized?  Can't imagine the SNES having much more
power than the Genesis

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