Re: [LIB] Flipstart (was Vulcan) PC - 1lbs mini-notebook -
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 21:27:54 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Flipstart (was Vulcan) PC - 1lbs mini-notebook - Libretto alternative All I can say is, if this thing does in fact make it to market at a reasonable price, my task of choosing a laptop next year is going to get REALLY tricky ... *sigh* ... I can understand a lack of PC-card port on the device itself (I mean, after all the thing is supposed to be small right?) but it does surprise me that they haven't mentioned a PC-card port on the docking station. Even something like a little dedicated PC card dock (similar in concept to the SpringBoard adapter for the thin Visor Edge PDAs perhaps, where a little adapter has a docking port and a PCMCIA port and is shaped so the PCMCIA card sits neatly under the laptop) might have made sense ... that plus firewire like on the small Sony Vaio (can't remember which model, the really small one) would have been nice (I could have imagined taking something like that on holiday, record DV movies during the day with a camcorder, dump them to the hard drive over dinner, encode them into VCD format overnight then burn them to CD using the CDRW dock over breakfast) ... As for thumb-typing, I've used the keyboard on the Sony UX-50 (perhaps 8cm between the a and l keys if you're lucky?) and it's surprisingly touch-typeable with the thumbs. It certainly isn't 90wpm but it'd be the fastest I've gotten data into a PDA (using only onboard facilities) ... besides wireless bluetooth keyboards are becoming easily available ... The thing that does surprise me is battery life ... or rather how they can manage to claim a whole working day's charge (which I take to be around 7 hours or so) even in low power mode, whilst still being functional. My Sony Clie NX-70 PDA on low power mode only manages 4 hours on a charge (with a 1.1AH 4.8V? LiIon battery) and that's with a PDA processor and solid state memory! I wonder what battery that thing runs on ... it can't have more than a couple of AH of charge at around the 5V mark given its size right? I could just imagine rigging it up to run off AA-sized cells (like I did my NX-70)! Now why couldn't Toshiba have come out with something like this? *sigh* - Raymond At 11:50 PM 20/02/2004 -0800, you wrote: Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 08:48:13 +0100 From: Wouter. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Flipstart (was Vulcan) PC - 1lbs mini-notebook - Libretto alternative This FlipStart looks to be a great Libretto replacement, however the only thing I noticed (and one of the most important for me) is the lack of a pc-card port! Where do I stick my CF-card reader? Where my Firewire card? Or should I connect it all through the USB-port? Or did I miss something, misread the specs? They're getting very, very close to me getting my wallet out. But not quite yet... Wouter - Original Message - From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 6:48 AM Subject: [LIB] Flipstart (was Vulcan) PC - 1lbs mini-notebook - Libretto alternative Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:46:15 -0800 (PST) From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Flipstart (was Vulcan) PC - 1lbs mini-notebook - Libretto alternative Basically, think 1 pound (450g), smaller-than-a-Libretto-50, 5.6 1024x600 squint-widescreen LCD, 30GB, mini-notebook that could have been a Libretto if Toshiba had continued making mini-notebooks along the line of the original L20-70 series. Until they come out with the final product and we get to play with it, won't know if it's any good (looks like PDA keyboard) or for real (not out yet). It is possible given the small motherboard size of the Sony Extreme X505 (885g with a larger LCD screen), and PDAs like the Sharp Zaurus SL-C860 has everything except the HD and larger screen. But I think the one thing that'll kill it for a lot of people is the keyboard -- the L50 KB is pushing touch-typing size, and I really think that the L100/110 form-factor is about as small as you can go with medium to large sized hands for touch-typing for long periods of time. The screen resolution won't be that big of a problem under XP where you can set the display pitch and have all of the text and icons blown up automatically. Certainly interesting is the MP3 player and outer-case control pad where you can access some functions with the lid closed. But sadly, 30GB is going to be far too small for XP + Office + a few applications (usually ~10GB already), plus data, plus music for me =( They're probably using the 1.8 HDs found in the Apple iPods given the size and weight, and the digital camera is a nice touch. But, what were they thinking?!? Not even one slim 5mm PCMCIA slot?!? Not even a built-in ethernet or modem connector (come on now, look at the 3COM XJACK ethernet/modem all-in-one single connector and tell me they can't squeeze a pop-out jack the size of
Re: [LIB] Flipstart (was Vulcan) PC - 1lbs mini-notebook -
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 09:03:00 -0600 From: john [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Flipstart (was Vulcan) PC - 1lbs mini-notebook - Why not swap the motherboard out and put it in the libretto case? You'd have a better screen and keyboard plus room for pcmcia. john At 07:30 AM 2/21/2004, you wrote: Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 21:27:54 +0800 From: Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Flipstart (was Vulcan) PC - 1lbs mini-notebook - Libretto alternative All I can say is, if this thing does in fact make it to market at a reasonable price, my task of choosing a laptop next year is going to get REALLY tricky ... *sigh* ... I can understand a lack of PC-card port on the device itself (I mean, after all the thing is supposed to be small right?) but it does surprise me that they haven't mentioned a PC-card port on the docking station. Even something like a little dedicated PC card dock (similar in concept to the SpringBoard adapter for the thin Visor Edge PDAs perhaps, where a little adapter has a docking port and a PCMCIA port and is shaped so the PCMCIA card sits neatly under the laptop) might have made sense ... that plus firewire like on the small Sony Vaio (can't remember which model, the really small one) would have been nice (I could have imagined taking something like that on holiday, record DV movies during the day with a camcorder, dump them to the hard drive over dinner, encode them into VCD format overnight then burn them to CD using the CDRW dock over breakfast) ... As for thumb-typing, I've used the keyboard on the Sony UX-50 (perhaps 8cm between the a and l keys if you're lucky?) and it's surprisingly touch-typeable with the thumbs. It certainly isn't 90wpm but it'd be the fastest I've gotten data into a PDA (using only onboard facilities) ... besides wireless bluetooth keyboards are becoming easily available ... The thing that does surprise me is battery life ... or rather how they can manage to claim a whole working day's charge (which I take to be around 7 hours or so) even in low power mode, whilst still being functional. My Sony Clie NX-70 PDA on low power mode only manages 4 hours on a charge (with a 1.1AH 4.8V? LiIon battery) and that's with a PDA processor and solid state memory! I wonder what battery that thing runs on ... it can't have more than a couple of AH of charge at around the 5V mark given its size right? I could just imagine rigging it up to run off AA-sized cells (like I did my NX-70)! Now why couldn't Toshiba have come out with something like this? *sigh* - Raymond At 11:50 PM 20/02/2004 -0800, you wrote: Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 08:48:13 +0100 From: Wouter. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Flipstart (was Vulcan) PC - 1lbs mini-notebook - Libretto alternative This FlipStart looks to be a great Libretto replacement, however the only thing I noticed (and one of the most important for me) is the lack of a pc-card port! Where do I stick my CF-card reader? Where my Firewire card? Or should I connect it all through the USB-port? Or did I miss something, misread the specs? They're getting very, very close to me getting my wallet out. But not quite yet... Wouter - Original Message - From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Libretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 6:48 AM Subject: [LIB] Flipstart (was Vulcan) PC - 1lbs mini-notebook - Libretto alternative Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 21:46:15 -0800 (PST) From: David Chien [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Flipstart (was Vulcan) PC - 1lbs mini-notebook - Libretto alternative Basically, think 1 pound (450g), smaller-than-a-Libretto-50, 5.6 1024x600 squint-widescreen LCD, 30GB, mini-notebook that could have been a Libretto if Toshiba had continued making mini-notebooks along the line of the original L20-70 series. Until they come out with the final product and we get to play with it, won't know if it's any good (looks like PDA keyboard) or for real (not out yet). It is possible given the small motherboard size of the Sony Extreme X505 (885g with a larger LCD screen), and PDAs like the Sharp Zaurus SL-C860 has everything except the HD and larger screen. But I think the one thing that'll kill it for a lot of people is the keyboard -- the L50 KB is pushing touch-typing size, and I really think that the L100/110 form-factor is about as small as you can go with medium to large sized hands for touch-typing for long periods of time. The screen resolution won't be that big of a problem under XP where you can set the display pitch and have all of the text and icons blown up automatically. Certainly interesting is the MP3 player and outer-case control pad where you can access some functions with the lid closed. But sadly, 30GB is going to be far too small for XP + Office + a few applications (usually ~10GB already), plus data, plus music for me =( They're probably using the 1.8 HDs found in the Apple iPods given the size and
Re: [LIB] Serious boot problem - Help needed!
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 09:12:04 -0600 From: john [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Serious boot problem - Help needed! Hi Matt The acual recovery is very simple. Install the dos version of Norton Disk Doctor on your windows boot floppy. Boot using the floppy. Do a fdisk /mbr on the c drive. Sys the c drive. Copy NDD to c. Remove floppy. Reboot. Run NDD. It'll fix your fat structure and anything else wrong. john At 01:46 PM 2/20/2004, you wrote: Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 19:44:41 + From: Matt Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Serious boot problem - Help needed! L70 froze again during my last attempt to reply John. I guess it's not the mouse.. :-/ From: john [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why not just boot with a floppy, do a fdisk /mbr then reboot to the 'C' drive? You don't need ezdrive with any version of windows past 95. You should be able to boot just fine with a rebuilt master boot record and then you can fix what you need. Well, disk partition is such an esoteric field. I have gone the FDISK /MBR route for various problems in the past, some successful and some not. Along the way I've also gotten conflicting ideas on how to go about these sorts of things. Up to this point I haven't done anything intrusive to the drive while waiting to see if Symantec is actually going to provide support. They were always about the only support staff I've ever found that really knows how to troubleshoot and fix these kinds of problems well. If it comes to it, I might try backing up the MBR with PM's Wrprog.exe utility, or the freeware utility that Franklin Eekhout suggested. Then I might be able to restore the present MBR needs be. As I've written, this is really just another exercise in learning, as there really isn't anything on this drive that is crucial to recover. Norton Ghost aborted the process of imaging both the C: primary and D: logical partitions on the bad HDD (I haven't tried E: yet). Partition Magic had reported file sizes not matching FATs, and FATs not being identical on the C: drive that Ghost later reported bad blocks and read sector errors on. But PM reported no errors on the D: where Ghost later aborted imaging with an error message on the target slave drive saying it couldn't open GHOST.ERR, and that an internal inconsistency had been detected. While I'm waiting for Symantec, I think I'll put the drive in the desktop and see what disk recovery software might be able to retrieve. I'll try fixing things after I get as much data back as I can. Matt _ Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee when you click here. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest ** -- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.211 / Virus Database: 261.9.6 - Release Date: 2/18/2004 -- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 7.0.211 / Virus Database: 261.9.6 - Release Date: 2/18/2004 ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
[LIB] Off list: get data off before send back?
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 02:07:28 + From: Matt Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Off list: get data off before send back? Hmm... did I say Altavista or Astalavista? _ Dream of owning a home? Find out how in the First-time Home Buying Guide. http://special.msn.com/home/firsthome.armx ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
Re: [LIB] Serious boot problem - Help needed!
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 02:36:47 + From: Matt Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] Serious boot problem - Help needed! Hey John, From: john [EMAIL PROTECTED] The acual recovery is very simple. Install the dos version of Norton Disk Doctor on your windows boot floppy. Boot using the floppy. Do a fdisk /mbr on the c drive. Sys the c drive. Copy NDD to c. Remove floppy. Reboot. Run NDD. It'll fix your fat structure and anything else wrong. Hmmm... that entails writing data to the drive that I want to recover data from :-/ And it looks like just doing an FDISK /MBR might be a bit problematic. Stellar Phoenix has found FATs for 33 logical drives on the HDD. No doubt residuals from past wiping, repartitioning and installing OSs on the drive. Who knows which FAT FDISK might decide to use... I have to admit, I'm pretty clueless about how the FAT32 file system and partitioning works to begin with. I started using WinHex to learn a little more about it, but I've got light years to go before I'll get a reasonable grasp of it all. I was able to recover my C: and D: drive data, leaving an E: drive left to deal with. But it looks like that E: drive is blown to pieces. Phoenix doesn't report any logical drives the size of the lost E: drive, so I'm trying the most likely of the 33 logical drives it reports. Then, a better way to go with Disk Doctor may be to run it from an installation on the desktop I have the 20GB HDD from the L100 set up in. I'd think I could just run it right on the 20GB HDD without running FDISK on it 1st, couldn't I? Or are partition problems beyond DD? Then there's always MBRWORK to play with, but it looks like that may require a better handle on how partition tables and FATs are written to a HDD than I'm capable of. If Franklin, or anyone else can fill me in on just what it may entail, it's be fun to play with. I just started up the program for a moment, but didn't explore the MBR editing tool. Matt _ Click, drag and drop. My MSN is the simple way to design your homepage. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200364ave/direct/01/ ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
[LIB] W2K L100
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 22:57:28 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: W2K L100 Installed W2K + SP3 on my L100, then used geraintj's (http://www.geraintj.com/) Toshiba utilities for ACPI, BIOS in Control Panel, and power, plus the TOSPWR2K utility from a list members recent email (http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg13278.html). Also set up a W98 W2K swap/page file on its own partition, per Phil's recommendations. I'm quite pleased to say everything's working nicely! The TOSPWR2K Power Saver sets up a modern, quite spiffy version of the hairy light bulb utility with nearly the versatility of the original. However, the light bulb in the system tray must be re-christened the Shaved Light Bulb. Toshiba removed the hair! Don't they read this list? Looking forward to hours of software installs :-\ Lee ** http://libretto.basiclink.com - Libretto mailing list http://www.silverace.com/libretto/ - Archives ---TO UNSUBSCRIBE--- Reply to any of the list messages. The reply mail should be addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Then replace any text on the message's subject line: cmd:unsubscribe TO UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST-- Do above but with this on subject line: cmd:unsubscribe digest **
