Re: [LIB] When EZ-Drive is a must for W98 * W2K installations
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 12:20:58 +0100 From: Philip Nienhuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] When EZ-Drive is a must for W98 * W2K installations Matt Hanson wrote: Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 17:22:31 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] When EZ-Drive is a must for W98 * W2K installations Hi Matt: Here I got Win2K on a primary C: (and another stripped one on a logical G:) and Win98 on logical E: (plus OS/2 maintenance on logical D:\ FAT16)), so I can't reproduce your setup. Yet I wonder if the exact file path name you mentioned in your post / request to me matter much. I got a 10 GB and a 15 GB logical FAT32 partition on my Libby (both 8 GB) and I am very very sure that there are file- and pathnames inside which are much longer than what you mentioned. I think what happened on you Lib is that initially scandisk got confused because of the 0b setting (it doesn't use LBA disk translation then) and screwed up the file system, including your Daemon Tools subdir. Now that you converted it to 0c, scandisk can at last do a proper job and obviously finds the file system and in particular, that subdir has been screwed up. What I found on my Lib using 0b FAT32 type is that Win98 more or less mixed up the drive letters for both FAT32 logical partitions and found wrong disk sizes. Therefore I think the damage you encountered could have been much worse... scandisk could also have wiped out entire logical partitions. I do have Ranish Daemon Tools somewhere on disk but never installed them, thank you. BTW, hint: for Win2K virtual CD-ROM you can also use the free Microsoft tool Virtual CD-ROM Control Panel v2.0.1.1 (VcdControlTools.exe/zip or so, search microsoft.com). Meant for XP but works on W2K too. Needs admin rights BTW. Philip Philip, Thought I'd 1st try a quick and easy route of addressing the problems I've been having by trying converting partition types as you had pointed out. I got Ranish Partition Manager to convert all of the 0b FAT32 partitions to 0c FAT32 LBA partitions on my 110 HDD, and made the changes. But these file/folder problems for W98 persist. I uninstalled EZD, popped the HDD out of the 110, put it in the desktop, booted from the FDD, ran Ranish part.exe and did the partition type conversion. That process was as easy as highlighting a partition, pressing the 'Ins' key, and moving the highlight bar down one notch from 0b to 0c for each partition, and saving the changes. After converting the partition types leaving EZD uninstalled, I put the HDD back in the 110, booted into W98 on C: and ran Scandisk on the G: partition above 8GB. It only took a few seconds to come up with a folder error there: --- G:\My Downloads\File Management\Virtual CD Drive\DAEMON Tools 3.47 This folder is invalid. Although it is marked as a folder, its contents do not appear to be valid. Scandisk repairs this error by converting this folder into a file. NOTE: If you choose to repair this error, make sure you recover lost file fragments later. If files in this folder were named using an international character set other than the one you are using now, click Cancel, and then refer to the Readme.txt file. --- That was the folder for the freeware virtual CD program Jim Drouillard pointed me to recently (thanks Jim!). If you have W98 as C: on your system, W2K on a logical drive 8GB, and some partition 8GB you could use, I wonder if you could do a test and try setting up a path and file like mine above. And then try running Scandisk on that 8GB partition from your W98 on C: to see if it finds the same problem. I'd guess that for test purposes it wouldn't matter if you didn't have the file daemon347.exe in the '\DAEMON Tools 3.47' as I do, but it wouldn't hurt to duplicate as much as what I've got here as possible. daemon347.exe is here: http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/portal/download.php?mode=ViewCategorycatid=5 or directly to the file download: http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/portal/download.php?mode=Downloadid=34 Thanks for your feedback on all this Philip.
Re: [LIB] slow
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 12:52:33 +0100 From: Philip Nienhuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] slow john wrote: Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 00:51:33 -0600 (GMT+6) From: john [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: slow thanks for the help in getting my linux install working again on my libby. Movies now play and very nicely except my audio and video are out of sync still--the audio is about four times fater than my video. the reason for this is my hard drive has started reading and writing very slow. It only works at about 1.3 M/s. It is much faster than that. It has a 8MB cache for starters:)!! here are the pertinant sections of my config file Does everything look right? its a toshiba 2.5 inch 60 gig GAX drive. Here is my .config, actually also for the PCMCIA floppy patch. It is for 2.4.28 kernel, but while trying to get the floppy patch in the 2.6.x kernel series I noted that esp. the IDE stuff is largely the same. I attached the entire .config file, perhaps there are more options you might want to compare to your setup. BTW how fast does your Toshiba HD rotate? My 60 GB Hitachi 7K60 = 7200rpm + 8 MB cache, I found that does make a noticable difference compared to a 15 GB Toshiba 1517GAP 4200 rpm with ?2? MB cache. Philip # =floppy.config= # # Automatically generated make config: don't edit # CONFIG_X86=y # CONFIG_SBUS is not set CONFIG_UID16=y # # Code maturity level options # CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y # # Loadable module support # CONFIG_MODULES=y CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y CONFIG_KMOD=y # # Processor type and features # # CONFIG_M386 is not set # CONFIG_M486 is not set # CONFIG_M586 is not set # CONFIG_M586TSC is not set CONFIG_M586MMX=y # CONFIG_M686 is not set # CONFIG_MPENTIUMIII is not set # CONFIG_MPENTIUM4 is not set # CONFIG_MK6 is not set # CONFIG_MK7 is not set # CONFIG_MK8 is not set # CONFIG_MELAN is not set # CONFIG_MCRUSOE is not set # CONFIG_MWINCHIPC6 is not set # CONFIG_MWINCHIP2 is not set # CONFIG_MWINCHIP3D is not set # CONFIG_MCYRIXIII is not set # CONFIG_MVIAC3_2 is not set CONFIG_X86_WP_WORKS_OK=y CONFIG_X86_INVLPG=y CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG=y CONFIG_X86_XADD=y CONFIG_X86_BSWAP=y CONFIG_X86_POPAD_OK=y # CONFIG_RWSEM_GENERIC_SPINLOCK is not set CONFIG_RWSEM_XCHGADD_ALGORITHM=y CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT=5 CONFIG_X86_USE_STRING_486=y CONFIG_X86_ALIGNMENT_16=y CONFIG_X86_HAS_TSC=y CONFIG_X86_GOOD_APIC=y CONFIG_X86_PPRO_FENCE=y # CONFIG_X86_F00F_WORKS_OK is not set CONFIG_X86_MCE=y # # CPU Frequency scaling # CONFIG_CPU_FREQ=y CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_TABLE=y CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_PROC_INTF=y # # CPUFreq governors # CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_USERSPACE=y CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_24_API=y # # CPUFreq processor drivers # CONFIG_X86_POWERNOW_K6=m CONFIG_X86_POWERNOW_K7=m CONFIG_X86_LONGHAUL=m CONFIG_X86_SPEEDSTEP_ICH=m CONFIG_X86_SPEEDSTEP_CENTRINO=m CONFIG_X86_P4_CLOCKMOD=m CONFIG_X86_LONGRUN=m CONFIG_X86_GX_SUSPMOD=m CONFIG_TOSHIBA=m # CONFIG_I8K is not set # CONFIG_MICROCODE is not set CONFIG_X86_MSR=m CONFIG_X86_CPUID=m CONFIG_E820_PROC=y CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y # CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G is not set # CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set # CONFIG_HIGHMEM is not set # CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION is not set # CONFIG_MTRR is not set # CONFIG_SMP is not set CONFIG_X86_UP_APIC=y CONFIG_X86_UP_IOAPIC=y CONFIG_X86_LOCAL_APIC=y CONFIG_X86_IO_APIC=y # CONFIG_X86_TSC_DISABLE is not set CONFIG_X86_TSC=y # # General setup # CONFIG_NET=y CONFIG_PCI=y # CONFIG_PCI_GOBIOS is not set # CONFIG_PCI_GODIRECT is not set CONFIG_PCI_GOANY=y CONFIG_PCI_BIOS=y CONFIG_PCI_DIRECT=y CONFIG_ISA=y CONFIG_PCI_NAMES=y # CONFIG_EISA is not set # CONFIG_MCA is not set CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y # # PCMCIA/CardBus support # CONFIG_PCMCIA=m CONFIG_CARDBUS=y CONFIG_TCIC=y CONFIG_I82092=y CONFIG_I82365=y # # PCI Hotplug Support # # CONFIG_HOTPLUG_PCI is not set CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT=y CONFIG_SYSCTL=y CONFIG_KCORE_ELF=y # CONFIG_KCORE_AOUT is not set CONFIG_BINFMT_AOUT=m CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y CONFIG_BINFMT_MISC=m CONFIG_PM=y CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y # CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND_DEBUG is not set # CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND_CHECKSUM is not set CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND_COMPRESSION=y CONFIG_APM=m # CONFIG_APM_IGNORE_USER_SUSPEND is not set # CONFIG_APM_DO_ENABLE is not set # CONFIG_APM_CPU_IDLE is not set # CONFIG_APM_DISPLAY_BLANK is not set # CONFIG_APM_RTC_IS_GMT is not set # CONFIG_APM_ALLOW_INTS is not set # CONFIG_APM_REAL_MODE_POWER_OFF is not set CONFIG_BADRAM=y # # ACPI Support # CONFIG_ACPI=y CONFIG_ACPI_BOOT=y CONFIG_ACPI_BUS=y CONFIG_ACPI_INTERPRETER=y CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y CONFIG_ACPI_POWER=y CONFIG_ACPI_PCI=y CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP=y CONFIG_ACPI_SYSTEM=y CONFIG_ACPI_AC=m CONFIG_ACPI_BATTERY=m CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=m CONFIG_ACPI_FAN=m CONFIG_ACPI_PROCESSOR=m CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=m # CONFIG_ACPI_ASUS is not set # CONFIG_ACPI_TOSHIBA is not set # CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG is not set CONFIG_ACPI_RELAXED_AML=y # # Memory Technology Devices (MTD) # # CONFIG_MTD is not set # # Parallel port support # CONFIG_PARPORT=m CONFIG_PARPORT_PC=m CONFIG_PARPORT_PC_CML1=m #
Re: [LIB] slow
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 11:31:19 -0600 (GMT+6) From: john [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] slow On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Philip Nienhuis wrote: Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 12:52:33 +0100 From: Philip Nienhuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] slow john wrote: Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 00:51:33 -0600 (GMT+6) From: john [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: slow thanks for the help in getting my linux install working again on my libby. Movies now play and very nicely except my audio and video are out of sync still--the audio is about four times fater than my video. the reason for this is my hard drive has started reading and writing very slow. It only works at about 1.3 M/s. It is much faster than that. It has a 8MB cache for starters:)!! here are the pertinant sections of my config file Does everything look right? its a toshiba 2.5 inch 60 gig GAX drive. Here is my .config, actually also for the PCMCIA floppy patch. It is for 2.4.28 kernel, but while trying to get the floppy patch in the 2.6.x kernel series I noted that esp. the IDE stuff is largely the same. I attached the entire .config file, perhaps there are more options you might want to compare to your setup. BTW how fast does your Toshiba HD rotate? My 60 GB Hitachi 7K60 = 7200rpm + 8 MB cache, I found that does make a noticable difference compared to a 15 GB Toshiba 1517GAP 4200 rpm with ?2? MB cache. I just checked the specs: 5400rpm, 60gig, 16MB cache. Rated at up to 100M/s top transfer rate. Its a very fast drive actually and if I can unscrewup my hard drive setup on 2.6 I'll let you know its top speed on the libby. On a equivilant laptop with dma enabled I was getting around 8 M/s, which is slow for it . On the 110CT, for some reason I am getting 1.5M/s. Faster than the IBM I was using, tho. I also seem to have a memory problem under 2.6.x. Under 2.4 I usually had about 32MB free after booting now I only have 1-2MB free. I noticed you have ACPI enabled in your .config file. When I enable it I can't get the donauboe FIR driver to find its I/O address and it doesn't create the irda0 driver plus it gives me real bad battery life. I also can't get the Neomagic framebuffer driver neofb to load using the 'libretto' parameter. Haven't found out why. Gives me a nasty error and locks up the computer. I also have a problem hotplugging my dvd drive from a usb port, when it is disconnected I get a glitch that says it is linked to a whole bunch of drivers, and forces me to shut down. I'm having a whole bunch of fun:))) besides not being able to play movies. Here's a question for you--I've been looking for a linux pro to unscewup my linux installations ever since I started using it last year being I'm not much of a software person myself, I'm not any good at it, and don't have any time to really fix stuff plus I want to use it. Impossible to find. Nobody seems to want to work on it inspite of the fact it has a whole list of great reasons and very few defects as compared to other small and microcomputer operating systems. And get this -- from what I've been willing to offer the pay is way better. But everybody knows how to reload programs and plug in boards in windows and wants to charge an arm and a leg to do it inspite of the fact I can grab pretty much anyone off the street to do it -- takes little brains. Problem is -- an OS like that is basically useless to me. Its pretty and clickable (which are its advantages) but it just doesn't work right. So..after this long spiel why is it so hard to find a linux guy?!!? john
Re: [LIB] slow
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 21:18:34 +0100 From: Philip Nienhuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] slow john wrote: Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 11:31:19 -0600 (GMT+6) From: john [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] slow On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Philip Nienhuis wrote: Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 12:52:33 +0100 From: Philip Nienhuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] slow john wrote: Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 00:51:33 -0600 (GMT+6) From: john [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: slow thanks for the help in getting my linux install working again on my libby. Movies now play and very nicely except my audio and video are out of sync still--the audio is about four times fater than my video. the reason for this is my hard drive has started reading and writing very slow. It only works at about 1.3 M/s. It is much faster than that. It has a 8MB cache for starters:)!! here are the pertinant sections of my config file Does everything look right? its a toshiba 2.5 inch 60 gig GAX drive. Here is my .config, actually also for the PCMCIA floppy patch. It is for 2.4.28 kernel, but while trying to get the floppy patch in the 2.6.x kernel series I noted that esp. the IDE stuff is largely the same. I attached the entire .config file, perhaps there are more options you might want to compare to your setup. BTW how fast does your Toshiba HD rotate? My 60 GB Hitachi 7K60 = 7200rpm + 8 MB cache, I found that does make a noticable difference compared to a 15 GB Toshiba 1517GAP 4200 rpm with ?2? MB cache. I just checked the specs: 5400rpm, 60gig, 16MB cache. Rated at up to 100M/s top transfer rate. Its a very fast drive actually and if I can unscrewup my hard drive setup on 2.6 I'll let you know its top speed on the libby. On a equivilant laptop with dma enabled I was getting around 8 M/s, which is slow for it . On the 110CT, for some reason I am getting 1.5M/s. Faster than the IBM I was using, tho. I also seem to have a memory problem under 2.6.x. Under 2.4 I usually had about 32MB free after booting now I only have 1-2MB free. I noticed you have ACPI enabled in your .config file. When I enable it I can't get the donauboe FIR driver to find Ah that sound familiar (in VectorLinux 4.x). I get similar messages, but I don't use IR. I forgot to disable it in the kernel or in modules.conf (or is it conf.modules?). its I/O address and it doesn't create the irda0 driver plus it gives me real bad battery life. I also can't get In my case I get 2.5-3 hours (a bit less than Windows) using ACPI. Using APM it's just about 2-2.5 hours. YMMV the Neomagic framebuffer driver neofb to load using the 'libretto' parameter. Haven't found out why. Gives me a nasty error and locks up the I don't use framebuffer, I just use native XFree86 Neomagic accelerated support. computer. I also have a problem hotplugging my dvd drive from a usb port, when it is disconnected I get a glitch that says it is linked to a whole bunch of drivers, and forces me to shut down. I'm having a whole bunch of fun:))) besides not being able to play movies. I got no USB on my Lib (no EPR, no USB card either). On my desktop I find USB support (in Mandrake 10.x) a bit lacking compared to Windows and even OS/2 Warp 4.52 / ECS 1.2. But I haven't grasped enough of the USB/hotplug internals. It some ways it looks like a minefield. Cardbus events on the Lib are much easier managed than USB on my desktop. I never tried to play DVD on my Lib in Linux, but I might try someday. Here's a question for you--I've been looking for a linux pro to unscewup my linux installations ever since I started using it last year being I'm not much of a software person myself, I'm not any good at it, and don't have any time to really fix stuff plus I want to use it. Impossible to find. Nobody seems to want to work on it inspite of the fact it has a whole list of great reasons and very few defects as compared to other small and microcomputer operating systems. And get this -- from what I've been willing to offer the pay is way better. But everybody knows how to reload programs and plug in boards in windows and wants to charge an arm and a leg to do it inspite of the fact I can grab pretty much anyone off the street to do it -- takes little brains. Problem is -- an OS like that is basically useless to me. Its pretty and clickable (which are its advantages) but it just doesn't work right. So..after this long spiel why is it so hard to find a linux guy?!!? Well to run Linux on aging equipment like a Libretto 110 one must be a hobbyist and hobbyists take much of the beating. Plus, to run Linux on aging equipment like Librettos you cannot avoid diving into the software. Like you, I am not so much of a software guy. Last attempt was trying the floppy patch on 2.6.x kernels, but I had to give up when I found that the whole kernel interrupt stuff has been changed when going from 2.4.x to 2.6.x. - that is way over my head.
Re: [LIB] When EZ-Drive is a must for W98 * W2K installations
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 16:56:24 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LIB] When EZ-Drive is a must for W98 * W2K installations --- Philip Nienhuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think what happened on you Lib is that initially scandisk got confused because of the 0b setting (it doesn't use LBA disk translation then) and screwed up the file system, including your Daemon Tools subdir. Now that you converted it to 0c, scandisk can at last do a proper job and obviously finds the file system and in particular, that subdir has been screwed up. I didn't allow scandisk to make that change on the Daemon Tools subdir when I ran it the other day. It popped up that message, and gave me the option to repair or quit. Having seen the damage fixing the error did once last week, I've been quitting, and either running chkdsk from W2K to check for problems on that drive, or installing EZD and running scandisk again from W98. And with EZB, scandisk finds no problems. But I did allow scandisk to repair a couple of these errors last week before switching C: from 0b to 0c. Do you think that when I allowed scandisk to convert those folders and files to recovered data files, it also wrote changes to FATs that are confusing it now that the C: partition has been changed from 0b to 0c? This is all pretty confusing to me. ;-P Data partitions aren't really affected by the change from type 0b to 0c, right? The change only affects booting from a partition, in that the partition is seen as Windows FAT32 LBA as type 0c, and just Windows FAT32 as type 0b. So I guess I could just leave things as they are with EZD installed. But I am still having problems with Winamp not being able to find MP3s on G: that are listed in its ACSII M3U playlist files. And that's running Winamp from W2K. Tho' I really have no idea if the two file/folder issues are related. How about I delete the C: partition, create a new one as 0c, restore a 'vanilla' image of W98. And delete the G: partition, create a new one, 0b or 0c probably doesn't matter for a data partition, and restore the data from backup on the desktop. Or do you think W2K may still be playing a part here? If I created a new C: and restored a W98 image, I'd have to run W2K setup again so it can boot from C:. Matt __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com
