AW: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

2004-10-20 Thread Stefan Katletz
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 08:54:18 +0200
From: Stefan Katletz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: AW: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I



 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Mark Srebnik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Gesendet: Montag, 18. Oktober 2004 01:36
 An: Libretto
 Betreff: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I
 
 
 Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:35:09 -0700
 From: Mark Srebnik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I
 
 on 10/17/04 1:47 PM, Philip Nienhuis at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 22:48:11 +0200
  From: Philip Nienhuis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I
  
  Mark Srebnik wrote:
  :
  ...snip
  Meanwhile, downloaded VectorLinux4.3 that ol' Philip 
  installed...printed out install instructions, extracted files as 
  instructed to hard drive
  
  Since I have WinXP Pro on my 110CT, I'm booting to DOS 
 with a Win98 
  boot floppy
  
  I presume you got XP on a FAT32 partition?
 
 Yes. 
  
  After I typed the install command:
  
  Loadlin ide root=/dev/ram rw initrd=initrd.img
  
  Setup started, saw lots of textat the end saw error message:
  
  Kernel panic: VFS: unable to mount root fs on ram0
  
  Any ideas about how to deal with this??

maybe your ramdisk is too small, try 

root=/dev/ram rw ramdisk_size=1

hth
stefan






Re: AW: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

2004-10-20 Thread Mark Srebnik
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 07:45:58 -0700
From: Mark Srebnik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: AW: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

Thanks for your help Stefan!

Tried that but still get error message...tried with other ramdisk sizes;
1000, 1still get error message

So it goes...

Mark

on 10/19/04 11:53 PM, Stefan Katletz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 08:54:18 +0200
 From: Stefan Katletz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: AW: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Mark Srebnik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Gesendet: Montag, 18. Oktober 2004 01:36
 An: Libretto
 Betreff: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I
 
 
 Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:35:09 -0700
 From: Mark Srebnik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I
 
 on 10/17/04 1:47 PM, Philip Nienhuis at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 22:48:11 +0200
 From: Philip Nienhuis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I
 
 Mark Srebnik wrote:
 :
 ...snip
 Meanwhile, downloaded VectorLinux4.3 that ol' Philip
 installed...printed out install instructions, extracted files as
 instructed to hard drive
 
 Since I have WinXP Pro on my 110CT, I'm booting to DOS
 with a Win98 
 boot floppy
 
 I presume you got XP on a FAT32 partition?
 
 Yes. 
  
 After I typed the install command:
 
 Loadlin ide root=/dev/ram rw initrd=initrd.img
 
 Setup started, saw lots of textat the end saw error message:
 
 Kernel panic: VFS: unable to mount root fs on ram0
 
 Any ideas about how to deal with this??
 
 maybe your ramdisk is too small, try
 
 root=/dev/ram rw ramdisk_size=1
 
 hth
 stefan
 
 
 
 





Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

2004-10-18 Thread Philip Nienhuis
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:41:42 +0200
From: Philip Nienhuis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

Mark Srebnik wrote:
...snip
 Are you referring to the item on page 2 of the BIOS Setup named 'Device
 Config.' ?

Yes
 
 It's the only item I see that has an option called 'Setup by OS'.
 
 However, I don't see option to disable. Only other choice says 'All
 Devices'in other words, I see the following choices:
 
 Device Config. = Setup by OS
 
 Or
 
 Device Config. = All Devices

That's the setting I use. It means the BIOS should initialize integrated
peripheral hardware rather than the OS (iow no Plug and Pray). No big
deal btw, as the only integrated peripheral HW to be set up this way
comprises the OPL3 soundcard and the serial and parallel ports.

From another perspective, as your Libby is apparently not at fault, is
your CD-ROM player OK?

If your Linux setup remains problematic, just transplant your HD to
another desktop and install Linux there. Do not reboot yet. Install
XFree86, specify Neomagic NM 2160 and some default resolution, but do
not boot into graphics mode yet. 
Let Linux reboot for the first time with the HD back in the Libretto.
From then on you can setup Linux further using Harddrake (Mandrake) or
vasm (VL).

P.




Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

2004-10-18 Thread Mark Srebnik
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 20:08:12 -0700
From: Mark Srebnik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

Thanks for clarifying Philip!

I thought my CDRW/DVD drive is OKat least it seems to work well...

As for the other install method, my only desktop computer right now is a
PowerMacG4so I don't think that will work... ;-)

Could try it I suppose with my PC at work when no one's looking ;-)

Mark

on 10/18/04 1:41 AM, Philip Nienhuis at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:41:42 +0200
 From: Philip Nienhuis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I
 
 Mark Srebnik wrote:
 ...snip
 Are you referring to the item on page 2 of the BIOS Setup named 'Device
 Config.' ?
 
 Yes
 
 It's the only item I see that has an option called 'Setup by OS'.
 
 However, I don't see option to disable. Only other choice says 'All
 Devices'in other words, I see the following choices:
 
 Device Config. = Setup by OS
 
 Or
 
 Device Config. = All Devices
 
 That's the setting I use. It means the BIOS should initialize integrated
 peripheral hardware rather than the OS (iow no Plug and Pray). No big
 deal btw, as the only integrated peripheral HW to be set up this way
 comprises the OPL3 soundcard and the serial and parallel ports.
 
 From another perspective, as your Libby is apparently not at fault, is
 your CD-ROM player OK?
 
 If your Linux setup remains problematic, just transplant your HD to
 another desktop and install Linux there. Do not reboot yet. Install
 XFree86, specify Neomagic NM 2160 and some default resolution, but do
 not boot into graphics mode yet.
 Let Linux reboot for the first time with the HD back in the Libretto.
 From then on you can setup Linux further using Harddrake (Mandrake) or
 vasm (VL).
 
 P.
 
 





Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

2004-10-17 Thread Mark Srebnik
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 10:35:45 -0700
From: Mark Srebnik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

Arggg.guess I wrote too soon

A) Mandrake Saga:

Defragged my hard as requested by Mandrake installer. Then tried installing
again with 'pcmcia' boot disk as noted below in previous post.

This time problemswhen asked to select where to install from HD, CD,
etcI selected CD drive but now nothing happens...CD drive doesn't
respond...;-(

I got a message: 'gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file' in the installer
window. 

Also saw message:

Warning: mounting partition /dev/hda5 in directory /tmp/inspect_tmp_dir
failed (invalid argument)

Saw same message for hda7 as well

Tried a few times, even remade boot disk...but no go...

Very strange as to why things aren't working now after it seems I was so
close to getting Mandrake installed???


B) VectorLinux 4.3 Saga:

Meanwhile, downloaded VectorLinux4.3 that ol' Philip installed...printed out
install instructions, extracted files as instructed to hard drive

Since I have WinXP Pro on my 110CT, I'm booting to DOS with a Win98 boot
floppy

After I typed the install command:

Loadlin ide root=/dev/ram rw initrd=initrd.img

Setup started, saw lots of textat the end saw error message:

Kernel panic: VFS: unable to mount root fs on ram0

Any ideas about how to deal with this??

-

Thanks for everyone's continuing assistance.

I hope this will be useful to others who might try to install Linux and save
them the hours of aggravation I'm going through!

Mark
Frustrated Silicone Valley Libretterati Linux Installer


on 10/16/04 3:47 PM, Mark Srebnik at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 15:47:01 -0700
 From: Mark Srebnik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I
 
 Thanks for your help Christian!
 
 on 10/16/04 11:41 AM, Christian Gennerat at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 20:40:15 +0200
 From: Christian Gennerat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I
 
 Oh you have either USB or PCMCIA
 is it a Frecom ?
 
 I have the EXP 2400P CDRW-DVD drive. I have both USB and PCMCIA cables for
 it.
 
 so you can boot with floppy using pcmcia.img
 I have installed all Mandrake versions with Freecom PCMCIA CD
 
 you boot with floppy.
 when install process begins, eject the floppy pcmcia card,
 and insert CD pcmcia card. that's all.
 
 OK, just tried using the pcmcia image to start with floppy and then ejected
 it when CD started up...
 
 For the first time got past the 'Configuring PCMCIA Cards' install point!!!
 
 Had a problem with the partitioning...said my drive needed to be defragged
 first...think I can take care of that by myself hopefully.
 
 Will report back later... ;-)
 
 Thanks,
 
 Mark
 
 
 Mark Srebnik a écrit :
 
 So I also tried connecting my CD drive with the PCMCIA cable and used the
 command you wrote below. Same problem...
 
 
 
 





Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

2004-10-17 Thread Philip Nienhuis
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 22:48:11 +0200
From: Philip Nienhuis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

Mark Srebnik wrote:
:
...snip
 Meanwhile, downloaded VectorLinux4.3 that ol' Philip installed...printed out
 install instructions, extracted files as instructed to hard drive
 
 Since I have WinXP Pro on my 110CT, I'm booting to DOS with a Win98 boot
 floppy

I presume you got XP on a FAT32 partition?
 
 After I typed the install command:
 
 Loadlin ide root=/dev/ram rw initrd=initrd.img
 
 Setup started, saw lots of textat the end saw error message:
 
 Kernel panic: VFS: unable to mount root fs on ram0
 
 Any ideas about how to deal with this??

Puzzling

1. The error message simply means that the kernel could not find the
file system on ramdisk (I guess VFS means virtual file system.)
Is initrd.img in the same subdir as ide (I guess so otherwise loadlin
would have complained)? Is initrd.img from the same VL43 version as ide?

BTW you typed the same command line as in:
http://www.vectorlinux.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3434   (in a
posting by robomop)
and I used it too - worked for me.

2. I am beginning to suspect other (hardware?) problems (e.g., memory
module seated OK?).
- Have you got the latest BIOS (v 8.1)?
Another issue might be your BIOS setup. I have:
- Setup by OS = disabled
- PCMCIA-slots = Auto

I can't think up any other suggestions at the moment.. sorry,

Philip




Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

2004-10-17 Thread Mark Srebnik
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:35:09 -0700
From: Mark Srebnik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

on 10/17/04 1:47 PM, Philip Nienhuis at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 22:48:11 +0200
 From: Philip Nienhuis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I
 
 Mark Srebnik wrote:
 :
 ...snip
 Meanwhile, downloaded VectorLinux4.3 that ol' Philip installed...printed out
 install instructions, extracted files as instructed to hard drive
 
 Since I have WinXP Pro on my 110CT, I'm booting to DOS with a Win98 boot
 floppy
 
 I presume you got XP on a FAT32 partition?

Yes. 
 
 After I typed the install command:
 
 Loadlin ide root=/dev/ram rw initrd=initrd.img
 
 Setup started, saw lots of textat the end saw error message:
 
 Kernel panic: VFS: unable to mount root fs on ram0
 
 Any ideas about how to deal with this??
 
 Puzzling
 
 1. The error message simply means that the kernel could not find the
 file system on ramdisk (I guess VFS means virtual file system.)
 Is initrd.img in the same subdir as ide (I guess so otherwise loadlin
 would have complained)?

Yes.

 Is initrd.img from the same VL43 version as ide?

Yes.

 BTW you typed the same command line as in:
 http://www.vectorlinux.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3434 (in a
 posting by robomop)
 and I used it too - worked for me.

I got it from the VL4.3 Install Instructions I printed out...

 2. I am beginning to suspect other (hardware?) problems (e.g., memory
 module seated OK?).

Checked memory module recentlyin Windows it says I have 64MB

 - Have you got the latest BIOS (v 8.1)?

Yes.

 Another issue might be your BIOS setup. I have:
 - Setup by OS = disabled

Are you referring to the item on page 2 of the BIOS Setup named 'Device
Config.' ? 

It's the only item I see that has an option called 'Setup by OS'.

However, I don't see option to disable. Only other choice says 'All
Devices'in other words, I see the following choices:

Device Config. = Setup by OS

Or 

Device Config. = All Devices

 - PCMCIA-slots = Auto

My BIOS says 'PC Card = Auto-Selected'...I assume this is the same thing...
 
 I can't think up any other suggestions at the moment.. sorry,
 
 Philip

Please no sorry, your help is great

Thanks to everyone trying to helphelps keep me motivated to get this
solved and Linux on my Lib ;-)

Mark





Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

2004-10-16 Thread Christian Gennerat
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 20:40:15 +0200
From: Christian Gennerat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I
Mark Srebnik a écrit :
So I also tried connecting my CD drive with the PCMCIA cable and used the
command you wrote below. Same problem...
 

Oh you have either USB or PCMCIA
is it a Frecom ?
so you can boot with floppy using pcmcia.img
I have installed all Mandrake versions with Freecom PCMCIA CD
you boot with floppy.
when install process begins, eject the floppy pcmcia card,
and insert CD pcmcia card. that's all.
--
--
Christian Gennerat



Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

2004-10-16 Thread Mark Srebnik
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 15:47:01 -0700
From: Mark Srebnik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

Thanks for your help Christian!

on 10/16/04 11:41 AM, Christian Gennerat at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2004 20:40:15 +0200
 From: Christian Gennerat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

 Oh you have either USB or PCMCIA
 is it a Frecom ?

I have the EXP 2400P CDRW-DVD drive. I have both USB and PCMCIA cables for
it.

 so you can boot with floppy using pcmcia.img
 I have installed all Mandrake versions with Freecom PCMCIA CD
 
 you boot with floppy.
 when install process begins, eject the floppy pcmcia card,
 and insert CD pcmcia card. that's all.

OK, just tried using the pcmcia image to start with floppy and then ejected
it when CD started up...

For the first time got past the 'Configuring PCMCIA Cards' install point!!!

Had a problem with the partitioning...said my drive needed to be defragged
first...think I can take care of that by myself hopefully.

Will report back later... ;-)

Thanks,

Mark


 Mark Srebnik a écrit :
 
 So I also tried connecting my CD drive with the PCMCIA cable and used the
 command you wrote below. Same problem...






Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

2004-10-15 Thread Philip Nienhuis
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 20:53:21 +0200
From: Philip Nienhuis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

Mark Srebnik wrote:
 
 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 16:46:02 -0700
 From: Mark Srebnik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I
 
 Hi Philip,
 
 Thanks for the advice...
 
 Just tried what you suggested with Mandrake...
 
 After starting the install with the loadlin command as you describe, got a
 bunch of text and at the end:
 
 Kernel panic: VFS: unable to mount root fs on 01:03

= kernel can't find the ramdisk file system. I think it intends to say
it can't find the image. Did you specify the ramdisk image and -size?
I do not know the commands for USB CD-ROM players. For Mandrake 9.2 to
be installed using a PCMCIA CD-ROM player I used:

loadlin vmlinuz initrd=all.rdz root=/dev/ram3 ramdisk_size=128000
vga=785 acpi=off pcmcia automatic=method:cdrom

(all on one line).
Perhaps change pcmcia into usb (w/o quotes) and try again?

If it still won't go, copy the entire \Mandrake dir from your CD-ROM to
HD, too, and use something like

loadlin vmlinuz initrd=all.rdz root=/dev/ram3 ramdisk_size=128000
acpi=off 

and specify a HD install when asked (it will also ask for the location
of the \Mandrake tree.). The acpi=off thing makes little difference BTW
(at least here).
BTW I figure you got just one CD-ROM for Mandrake 9.1?
 
 Now, I did copy over the alt0 directory on the CD I have. However, wonder if
 it matters or not that this was a CD from a Linux magazine??

Just check if there's a vmlinuz and an all.rdz file.
 
 Also, wouldn't mind trying VectorLinux too...
 
 Do you use the same loadlin command or is it different?

Vectorlinux? IIRC it is
loadlin ide rw initrd=initrd.img root=/dev/ram
or so (ide instead of vmlinuz). Details are in the vectorlinux message
board / installation forum (see their web site).

Philip




Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

2004-10-15 Thread Mark Srebnik
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 21:08:13 -0700
From: Mark Srebnik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

Thanks again Philip for your help!

Definitely helps keep me going and not giving up on Linux!

However, things don't seem to be going well for me

Maybe I don't understand things correctly, but I did enter the command as
you had written in your previous email:

loadlin vmlinuz initrd=all.rdz ramdisk_size=128000 root=/dev/ram3
acpi=off vga16

The problem with Mandrake install always was occurring after it recognized
the CDRW/DVD drive (using my USB cable) and CD drive seems to take over
install process. Always gets stuck when the installer says 'Configuring
PCMCIA Cards'...although it's interesting that in the very top right of the
installer window it says 'hard drive detection'

Also, the floppy drive keeps working and light is continually on and doesn't
go off. 

I tried Jim Drouillard's suggestion to disconnect floppy after CD drive
starts working but makes no differenceThanks for the suggestion Jim!

So I also tried connecting my CD drive with the PCMCIA cable and used the
command you wrote below. Same problem...

Then tried to do your other suggestion and for some unknown reason can't
seem to copy files from the DVD (from the Linux magazine). Keep getting
error messages in Windows when it tries to copy file over to hard drive.
Also, tried using DOS copy command after booting with Win98 boot floppy.
That didn't work either!

Starting to wonder if maybe there might be a problem with the files on the
DVD???

Maybe best to download Linux install files myself instead of using these
magazine CD's and DVD's???

I'm pretty persistent guy but this is starting to drive me nuts ;-)

Mark


on 10/15/04 3:19 PM, Philip Nienhuis at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 20:53:21 +0200
 From: Philip Nienhuis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I
 
 Mark Srebnik wrote:
 
 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 16:46:02 -0700
 From: Mark Srebnik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I
 
 Hi Philip,
 
 Thanks for the advice...
 
 Just tried what you suggested with Mandrake...
 
 After starting the install with the loadlin command as you describe, got a
 bunch of text and at the end:
 
 Kernel panic: VFS: unable to mount root fs on 01:03
 
 = kernel can't find the ramdisk file system. I think it intends to say
 it can't find the image. Did you specify the ramdisk image and -size?
 I do not know the commands for USB CD-ROM players. For Mandrake 9.2 to
 be installed using a PCMCIA CD-ROM player I used:
 
 loadlin vmlinuz initrd=all.rdz root=/dev/ram3 ramdisk_size=128000
 vga=785 acpi=off pcmcia automatic=method:cdrom
 
 (all on one line).
 Perhaps change pcmcia into usb (w/o quotes) and try again?
 
 If it still won't go, copy the entire \Mandrake dir from your CD-ROM to
 HD, too, and use something like
 
 loadlin vmlinuz initrd=all.rdz root=/dev/ram3 ramdisk_size=128000
 acpi=off 
 
 and specify a HD install when asked (it will also ask for the location
 of the \Mandrake tree.). The acpi=off thing makes little difference BTW
 (at least here).
 BTW I figure you got just one CD-ROM for Mandrake 9.1?
 
 Now, I did copy over the alt0 directory on the CD I have. However, wonder if
 it matters or not that this was a CD from a Linux magazine??
 
 Just check if there's a vmlinuz and an all.rdz file.
 
 Also, wouldn't mind trying VectorLinux too...
 
 Do you use the same loadlin command or is it different?
 
 Vectorlinux? IIRC it is
 loadlin ide rw initrd=initrd.img root=/dev/ram
 or so (ide instead of vmlinuz). Details are in the vectorlinux message
 board / installation forum (see their web site).
 
 Philip
 
 





Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

2004-10-14 Thread Philip Nienhuis
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 11:27:49 +0200
From: Philip Nienhuis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

Mark Srebnik wrote:
 
 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 15:40:40 -0700
 From: Mark Srebnik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I
 
 Just a quick update
 
 Tried Tory's suggestion and made some progress, but not there yet...
 
 I looked at image files and made boot floppy from image file on Mandrake 9.1
 CD called 'hdcdrom_usb.img'didn't see one there called 'usb.img'.
 
 Did that using 'rawwinen' in 'dosutils' directory...
 
 Floppy booted Libretto and saw Mandrake Install window and then asked
 whether to install from CDROM or Hard Drive. Selected CDROM and it
 recognized CDROM and started install process!
 
 The first few steps went OK, but seemed to have hit a snag now...for the
 past 30 minutes my floppy drive is working and the install window says
 configuring PCMCIA cards. I have a feeling installer is stuck
 
 Oh wellany suggestions

Hmm
Sounds like the old Linux kernel can't recognize Flashbuster PCMCIA
floppy drive syndrome.
Nothing to be done about it, unless you build your own Linux install
kernel patched for the PCMCIA floppy.
I wouldn't know how to build an install kernel BTW :-(  (but it can't be
that hard - obviously you need a running Linux system for that...)

BTW No luck yet trying to get the floppy to work in Linux 2.6.x kernels.

Philip




Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

2004-10-14 Thread Tory Braybrook
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:07:46 -0600
From: Tory Braybrook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

On Wednesday 13 October 2004 11:34 pm, Mark Srebnik wrote:
 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 15:40:40 -0700
 From: Mark Srebnik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

 Just a quick update

 Tried Tory's suggestion and made some progress, but not there yet...

 I looked at image files and made boot floppy from image file on Mandrake
 9.1 CD called 'hdcdrom_usb.img'didn't see one there called 'usb.img'.


I just popped my 9.2 disc in - hdcdrom_usb.img is the right one.

 Did that using 'rawwinen' in 'dosutils' directory...


rawwritewin?

 Floppy booted Libretto and saw Mandrake Install window and then asked
 whether to install from CDROM or Hard Drive. Selected CDROM and it
 recognized CDROM and started install process!

 The first few steps went OK, but seemed to have hit a snag now...for the
 past 30 minutes my floppy drive is working and the install window says
 configuring PCMCIA cards. I have a feeling installer is stuck

 Oh wellany suggestions


1) Make sure you don't have any PCMCIA cards except for the floppy drive 
installed. 
2) Try installing the floppy in the laptop PCMCIA rather than the docking port 
(Or vice versa) 
3) Try Mandrake 9.2. Sounds like the 9.1 kernel is choking on something.

When I did it, the install just ignored the floppy drive - I didn't have a 
problem with the PCMCIA services (That I recall. It's been a long time now.)

Tory

 2 steps forward, 1 step back

 Mark

 on 9/27/04 10:11 PM, Tory Braybrook at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 23:13:38 -0600
  From: Tory Braybrook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - HELP!
 
  On Monday 27 September 2004 09:47 pm, Mark Srebnik wrote:
  Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 20:45:26 -0700
  From: Mark Srebnik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - HELP!
 
  Hi Tory,
 
  No, I didn't receive your email.could you please resend to:
 
  mark AT MarkSrebnikArchitect.com
 
  Thanks for your help!
 
  Mark
 
  Err... That was mainly it. What boot disk are you using to do the
  installation? You have to take a look in the images directory on the
  first Mandrake 9 cd, and you'll see a bunch of IMG files. I believe the
  standard/most common boot disk is the cdrom.img image. The one you want
  for a USB CD-ROM install is the usb.img. It should give the details,
  including how to make a boot cd from an image in the install
  documentation - which is a text file on the CD itself. I can't be any
  more specific, as I don't have my Madrake 9 cds here right now.
 
  Tory
 
  on 9/27/04 4:25 PM, Tory Braybrook at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Did you get the reply I sent to you directly? What floppy image are you
  using to boot with? You have to use the usb.img image instead of
  cdrom.img.
 
  Tory
 
 
  Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 17:27:02 -0600
  From: Tory Braybrook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - HELP!
 
  On Monday 27 September 2004 12:55 pm, Mark Srebnik wrote:
  Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 11:53:10 -0700
  From: Mark Srebnik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - HELP!
 
  As always, THANK YOU Philip for your great help!!
 
  Will either try Mandrake 9.2 or your approach
 
  Will keep trying ;-)
 
  Mark




Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

2004-10-14 Thread Mark Srebnik
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:05:34 -0700
From: Mark Srebnik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

Thanks as always Tory for your help!...

My comments below yours...

Mark

on 10/14/04 7:02 AM, Tory Braybrook at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:07:46 -0600
 From: Tory Braybrook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I
 
 On Wednesday 13 October 2004 11:34 pm, Mark Srebnik wrote:
 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 15:40:40 -0700
 From: Mark Srebnik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

[SNIP]
 
 I looked at image files and made boot floppy from image file on Mandrake
 9.1 CD called 'hdcdrom_usb.img'didn't see one there called 'usb.img'.
 
 
 I just popped my 9.2 disc in - hdcdrom_usb.img is the right one.
 
 Did that using 'rawwinen' in 'dosutils' directory...
 
 rawwritewin?

Sorry, typo on my part... ;-)

 Floppy booted Libretto and saw Mandrake Install window and then asked
 whether to install from CDROM or Hard Drive. Selected CDROM and it
 recognized CDROM and started install process!
 
 The first few steps went OK, but seemed to have hit a snag now...for the
 past 30 minutes my floppy drive is working and the install window says
 configuring PCMCIA cards. I have a feeling installer is stuck
 
 Oh wellany suggestions
 
 
 1) Make sure you don't have any PCMCIA cards except for the floppy drive
 installed. 

Just removed my ethernet card and tried againmade no difference, still
gets stuck on 'Configuring PCMCIA card'

 2) Try installing the floppy in the laptop PCMCIA rather than the docking port
 (Or vice versa) 

Just tried both waysmade no difference, still gets stuck on 'Configuring
PCMCIA card'

 3) Try Mandrake 9.2. Sounds like the 9.1 kernel is choking on something.

Wouldn't mind trying 9.2...having problem downloading it for some reason,
but will try again later...

 When I did it, the install just ignored the floppy drive - I didn't have a
 problem with the PCMCIA services (That I recall. It's been a long time now.)
 
 Tory

Hmmmwhat I noticed is that even when CD drive started up after floppy
boot and selecting CD drive install, floppy drive light stays on continually
and floppy is whirring around.so not like your install it sounds
like

Maybe I should try another distro???

Mark





Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

2004-10-14 Thread Philip Nienhuis
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 19:24:24 +0200
From: Philip Nienhuis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

Mark Srebnik wrote:
 
 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 07:57:42 -0700
 From: Mark Srebnik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I
 
 Thanks as always Philip for your input!

Here's some more. Try to install from HD.

Simply copy the contents of \isolinux\alt0 on MDK9.1 CDROM #1 to a
directory on your HD.

Next download
ftp://elserv.ffm.fgan.de/pub/linux/loadlin-1.6/update-1.6c/loadlin.exe.gz
(= latest loadlin.exe)
and unpack it with winzip or so into this \isolinux\alt0 directory on
your HD.

Then boot into plain DOS (when booting W98, hit F8 early in the boot
process to get a menu and choose the lowermost option, otherwise boot
from a DOS floppy).
Then, change directory to \isolinux\alt0 on your HD and start the
installation with:
 loadlin vmlinuz initrd=all.rdz ramdisk_size=128000 root=/dev/ram3
acpi=off vga16
and see how far you get this time.
 
 Any way to get a Linux LiveCD to work???

On a Libretto? Not that I know of.

BTW I just tried VectorLinux 4.3 and installed it on my Lib110. Worked
the same way using loadlin; only thing is that all installation files
had to be copied to a directory \veclinux on HD (some 400 MB in total).
VectorLinux is *much* faster than Mandrake, boots faster and it has a
very recent kernel (2.6.x).
One glitch is that I couldn't get my HP Deskjet printer to work (it may
be that the cups network printer driver is broken). For the rest I like
VL43 very well.

Good luck,

P.




Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

2004-10-14 Thread Jim Drouillard
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 15:22:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jim Drouillard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

When you boot from the floppy your card slots are
under BIOS control so if you are installing off a USB
CD rather than a PCMCIA CD you should be able to do an
install that does not use PCMCIA drivers and install
them later instead.  Once the installer kernel with
the USB driver is loaded from the floppy it shouldn't
need to access the floppy anymore so you might be able
to just eject the drive before the installer starts
looking for hardware.  If there is no boot floppy that
has USB drivers without PCMCIA drivers then maybe you
can pass an option to the installer somehow to not
look for PCMCIA slots.  I haven't tested this since
I've only installed from the hard drive.

The linux driver for the floppy (floppy_cs.o) is at
http://libxg.free.fr/floppy/floppy.htm (I haven't used
it yet).

Jim




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Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

2004-10-14 Thread Mark Srebnik
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 16:46:02 -0700
From: Mark Srebnik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

Hi Philip,

Thanks for the advice...

Just tried what you suggested with Mandrake...

After starting the install with the loadlin command as you describe, got a
bunch of text and at the end:

Kernel panic: VFS: unable to mount root fs on 01:03

Now, I did copy over the alt0 directory on the CD I have. However, wonder if
it matters or not that this was a CD from a Linux magazine??

Also, wouldn't mind trying VectorLinux too...

Do you use the same loadlin command or is it different?

Thanks,

Mark

on 10/14/04 10:24 AM, Philip Nienhuis at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 19:24:24 +0200
 From: Philip Nienhuis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I
 
 Mark Srebnik wrote:
 
 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 07:57:42 -0700
 From: Mark Srebnik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I
 
 Thanks as always Philip for your input!
 
 Here's some more. Try to install from HD.
 
 Simply copy the contents of \isolinux\alt0 on MDK9.1 CDROM #1 to a
 directory on your HD.
 
 Next download
 ftp://elserv.ffm.fgan.de/pub/linux/loadlin-1.6/update-1.6c/loadlin.exe.gz
 (= latest loadlin.exe)
 and unpack it with winzip or so into this \isolinux\alt0 directory on
 your HD.
 
 Then boot into plain DOS (when booting W98, hit F8 early in the boot
 process to get a menu and choose the lowermost option, otherwise boot
 from a DOS floppy).
 Then, change directory to \isolinux\alt0 on your HD and start the
 installation with:
 loadlin vmlinuz initrd=all.rdz ramdisk_size=128000 root=/dev/ram3
 acpi=off vga16
 and see how far you get this time.
 
 Any way to get a Linux LiveCD to work???
 
 On a Libretto? Not that I know of.
 
 BTW I just tried VectorLinux 4.3 and installed it on my Lib110. Worked
 the same way using loadlin; only thing is that all installation files
 had to be copied to a directory \veclinux on HD (some 400 MB in total).
 VectorLinux is *much* faster than Mandrake, boots faster and it has a
 very recent kernel (2.6.x).
 One glitch is that I couldn't get my HP Deskjet printer to work (it may
 be that the cups network printer driver is broken). For the rest I like
 VL43 very well.
 
 Good luck,
 
 P.
 
 





Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

2004-10-13 Thread Mark Srebnik
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 15:40:40 -0700
From: Mark Srebnik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - UPDATE I

Just a quick update

Tried Tory's suggestion and made some progress, but not there yet...

I looked at image files and made boot floppy from image file on Mandrake 9.1
CD called 'hdcdrom_usb.img'didn't see one there called 'usb.img'.

Did that using 'rawwinen' in 'dosutils' directory...

Floppy booted Libretto and saw Mandrake Install window and then asked
whether to install from CDROM or Hard Drive. Selected CDROM and it
recognized CDROM and started install process!

The first few steps went OK, but seemed to have hit a snag now...for the
past 30 minutes my floppy drive is working and the install window says
configuring PCMCIA cards. I have a feeling installer is stuck

Oh wellany suggestions

2 steps forward, 1 step back

Mark 


on 9/27/04 10:11 PM, Tory Braybrook at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 23:13:38 -0600
 From: Tory Braybrook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - HELP!
 
 On Monday 27 September 2004 09:47 pm, Mark Srebnik wrote:
 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 20:45:26 -0700
 From: Mark Srebnik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - HELP!
 
 Hi Tory,
 
 No, I didn't receive your email.could you please resend to:
 
 mark AT MarkSrebnikArchitect.com
 
 Thanks for your help!
 
 Mark
 
 Err... That was mainly it. What boot disk are you using to do the
 installation? You have to take a look in the images directory on the first
 Mandrake 9 cd, and you'll see a bunch of IMG files. I believe the
 standard/most common boot disk is the cdrom.img image. The one you want for a
 USB CD-ROM install is the usb.img. It should give the details, including how
 to make a boot cd from an image in the install documentation - which is a
 text file on the CD itself. I can't be any more specific, as I don't have my
 Madrake 9 cds here right now.
 
 Tory
 
 
 on 9/27/04 4:25 PM, Tory Braybrook at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Did you get the reply I sent to you directly? What floppy image are you
 using to boot with? You have to use the usb.img image instead of
 cdrom.img.
 
 Tory
 
 
 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 17:27:02 -0600
 From: Tory Braybrook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - HELP!
 
 On Monday 27 September 2004 12:55 pm, Mark Srebnik wrote:
 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 11:53:10 -0700
 From: Mark Srebnik [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [LIB] Install Linux on 110CT w/FD/CD - HELP!
 
 As always, THANK YOU Philip for your great help!!
 
 Will either try Mandrake 9.2 or your approach
 
 Will keep trying ;-)
 
 Mark