Re: [LIB] SPAM!! Is it Lib list generated?

2006-07-05 Thread Matthew Hanson

Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 04:30:02 +
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] SPAM!! Is it Lib list generated?


From: Daniel Seiden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I have been looking into the whole spam issue and David's explanation  is 
correct in this  case. I can not find anything that would be  causing spam 
on the list. We are getting a ton of spam at the email  account for the 
list but between the anti-spam measures that are  implemented and the list 
software itself most if not all is removed.


I will certainly be keeping an eye on it.


Good work Dan!  I know how hard you've been working to keep SPAM from 
clogging up the list server over the years!



On Jul 5, 2006, at 5:52 PM, David Chien wrote:


Spam is pretty bad nowadays.  you don't even need to use anything  except
private addresses and you can be spammed. How?  simple, the  spammers 
merely
need access any computer that sits between you and the target  (because 
onn the
internet, mail is often passed from you to many other computers on  the 
way to
the target), and they can pull that address from the data stream  and 
spam.


other ways, since this list is public, is to pull it from the  Mailing 
List Archives


As I pointed out in another post, the domains for all email domains were 
deleted from the files of both archive sites a number of years back.  So 
SPAM can't be generated from what's there now.  If people have copies of the 
older archive files, and are still selling them to SPAMMERs, that's another 
thing, but it seems relatively unlikely to me.


Matt

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Re: [LIB] SPAM!! Is it Lib list generated?

2006-07-05 Thread Daniel Seiden

Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 18:03:07 -0700
From: Daniel Seiden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] SPAM!! Is it Lib list generated?

Hello all,

I have been looking into the whole spam issue and David's explanation  
is correct in this  case. I can not find anything that would be  
causing spam on the list. We are getting a ton of spam at the email  
account for the list but between the anti-spam measures that are  
implemented and the list software itself most if not all is removed.


I will certainly be keeping an eye on it.

Dan


On Jul 5, 2006, at 5:52 PM, David Chien wrote:


Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 17:51:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Chien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] SPAM!! Is it Lib list generated?

Spam is pretty bad nowadays.  you don't even need to use anything  
except
private addresses and you can be spammed. How?  simple, the  
spammers merely
need access any computer that sits between you and the target  
(because onn the
internet, mail is often passed from you to many other computers on  
the way to
the target), and they can pull that address from the data stream  
and spam.


other ways, since this list is public, is to pull it from the  
Mailing List Archives


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Re: [LIB] SPAM!! Is it Lib list generated?

2006-07-05 Thread David Chien
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 17:51:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Chien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] SPAM!! Is it Lib list generated?

Spam is pretty bad nowadays.  you don't even need to use anything except
private addresses and you can be spammed. How?  simple, the spammers merely
need access any computer that sits between you and the target (because onn the
internet, mail is often passed from you to many other computers on the way to
the target), and they can pull that address from the data stream and spam.

other ways, since this list is public, is to pull it from the Mailing List 
Archives

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Re: [LIB] SPAM!! Is it Lib list generated?

2006-07-04 Thread Matthew Hanson

Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2006 20:07:09 +
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] SPAM!! Is it Lib list generated?


From: "Chris Hogan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Not me Matt, nothing untoward on my hotmail account or this account.

I get batches of spam every now and then, as a spammer finds the address
somewhere (e.g. librettolist archives), then they peter out over a week or
so once they get put out of action, or the webmaster works out how to 
filter

them out.


I don't think the 2 list archives are to blame, as long ago all the email 
domains in them were deleted.  Interesting you have Hotmail though, and 
haven't seen the same ones I've seen in the past few days Chris.



From: "Alan Middleton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

My address is also used solely for this list and now regularly gets 
spammed.. I suspect some kind soul has subscribed, havested addresses and 
added them to some lists.


That sounds like a reasonable probablility.  Though if that were the case, 
why would you and I be getting SPAM now and not Chris.  All 3 us us have 
been around here for ages.



Don't think it can be avoided :(


That's for sure.  I've set up Yahoo and Hotmail accounts in the past that I 
didn't use at all for days, and ended up getting SPAM before I sent any 
email or gave the addresses to anyone.  I suspect employees working for them 
have found ways to make a few extra $$$ in their spare time.


Matt

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Re: [LIB] SPAM!! Is it Lib list generated?

2006-07-04 Thread Alan Middleton
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2006 14:49:51 +0100 (GMT/BST)
From: "Alan Middleton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] SPAM!! Is it Lib list generated?

My address is also used solely for this list and now regularly gets spammed.. I 
suspect some kind soul has subscribed, havested addresses and added them to 
some lists.

Don't think it can be avoided :(

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From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: [LIB] SPAM!! Is it Lib list generated?

> Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2006 06:41:39 +
> From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: SPAM!! Is it Lib list generated?
> 
> In the past 4-5 days I've suddenly been getting SPAM coming into this 
> Hotmail email address.  About 10-12 at this point.
> 
> I haven't gotten any since I reactivated this hotmail address quite a while 
> back now.  And I use this email account exclusively to post to the Lib List. 
>   I haven't given out the address anywhere else on the net.  And Google 
> doesn't find it anywhere.
> 
> Is anyone else having this experience either with a Hotmail address, or any 
> others?
> 
> Matt
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[LIB] SPAM!! Is it Lib list generated?

2006-07-03 Thread Matthew Hanson

Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2006 06:41:39 +
From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SPAM!! Is it Lib list generated?

In the past 4-5 days I've suddenly been getting SPAM coming into this 
Hotmail email address.  About 10-12 at this point.


I haven't gotten any since I reactivated this hotmail address quite a while 
back now.  And I use this email account exclusively to post to the Lib List. 
 I haven't given out the address anywhere else on the net.  And Google 
doesn't find it anywhere.


Is anyone else having this experience either with a Hotmail address, or any 
others?


Matt

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