Re: [LIB] Charging problem on 50ct Error code

2005-02-15 Thread Jürgen Schöll
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 10:23:57 +0100
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_Sch=F6ll?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem on 50ct Error code
To finish the report about my problems charging my libretto and the error 
codes.
I got a new battery from the supplier. All is ok, no flashing orange led. 
The battery gets charged.
I'am glad, but the error code Battery voltage is over the limit. makes no 
sense at all, when given to a new, but defect battery.
Thanks for helping

Jürgen Schöll 





Re: [LIB] Charging problem on 50ct Error code

2005-02-10 Thread Matt Hanson
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 17:11:25 -0800 (PST)
From: Matt Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem on 50ct Error code


--- Jürgen Schöll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I would like to believe this, but is there anyone, who could confirm this
 by  translating the error code?

Well... from what I can figure out from the service manual, that sequence
of blinks should indicate a battery pack problem where the, Battery
voltage is over the limit.

To determine the error code, the sequences have to be converted from binary
to hex.  It seems your series of blinks would calculate to 10h.  Though I'm
not up on the very technical aspects of things.

Neil just posted the URL to his copy of the 50/70 manual here:

http://www.nbarnes.easynet.co.uk/libretto/li50_70ct.pdf 

So have a look in there.  Here's what I copied from the pertinent section:


==

2.3 Power Supply Troubleshooting

The power supply controls many functions and components. To determine if
the power supply is functioning properly, start with Procedure 1 and
continue with the other Procedures as instructed. The procedures described
in this section are:

Procedure 1: Power Status Check
Procedure 2: Error Code Check
Procedure 3: Connection Check
Procedure 4: Replacement Check

Procedure 1 Power Status Check

The following icons indicate the power supply status:

q Battery icon
q DC IN icon

The power supply controller displays the power supply status through the
Battery and the DC IN icons as shown in the tables below.

Table 2-1 Battery icon
==

Battery icon  Power supply status
  ===
Lights orange Quick charge *1
Lights green  Battery has a full charge and the AC adapter is connected
Blinks orange The battery level becomes low while operating the
computer on
(even intervals)  battery power*2
Doesn’t light Any condition other than those above. If the battery 
  becomes too hot charging will stop and the battery icon 
  will go out even if the AC adapter is connected

*1 One of two battery levels becomes low.
*2 AutoResume Off will be executed soon.

Table 2-2 DC IN icon


DC IN iconPower supply status
=====

Lights green  DC power is being supplied from the AC adapter
Blinks orange Power supply malfunction*3
Blinks green  Stand-by state
Doesn’t light Any condition other than those above

*3 When the power supply controller detects a malfunction, the DC IN icon 
blinks and an error code is displayed.

To check the power supply status, install a battery pack and connect an AC
adapter.

Check 1 If the DC IN icon flashes orange, go to Procedure 2.
Check 2 If the DC IN icon does not light, go to Procedure 3.
Check 3 If the Battery icon does not light orange or green, go to Procedure
4.

CAUTION: Use only an AC adapter that is manufactured specifically for the
Libretto 50CT/70CT. If you use a different AC adapter, the computer’s power
supply may malfunction or a fuse on the system board may be blown.

Procedure 2 Error Code Check


If the microprocessor detects a malfunction, the DC IN icon blinks orange.
The blink pattern indicates an error as shown below.

[X] Start Off for 2 seconds
[X] Error code (8 bit)

1: On for one second
0: On for half second
Interval between data bits:  Off for half second

Error codes begin with the least significant digit. For example:

Error code 12h (Error codes are given in hexadecimal)


 Read--

On:  --||-| |--| |-| |-| |--|_|-|_|-|_|-|
Off:   ||0|_|1 |_|0|_|0|_|1 |_|0|_|0|_|0|___

   Start^ -Order---

 Bit 0   12   3   45   6   7



[X][X] Check 1 Convert the DC IN icon blink pattern into the hexadecimal
error code and compare it to the tables below.



[X] DC power supplied through AC adapter
==

Error code  Meaning
==  ===

01h AC adapter voltage is over the limit (16.5 V)


[X] Battery pack


Error code Meaning
== ===

10hBattery voltage is over the limit
11hBattery charge current is over the limit
12hBattery discharge current is over the maximum allowed
   limit when there is no load
13hBattery voltage is under the limit


[X] B5V,VCC output
==

Error code Meaning
== ===

20hVCC voltage is over the limit
21hVCC voltage is under the limit
22hVCC does not start up when power supply is turned on


[X] B3V output
==

Error code Meaning
== ===

30hB3V voltage is over the limit
31hB3V voltage is under the limit
33hB3V does not start up when the power

Re: [LIB] Charging problem on 50ct Error code

2005-02-09 Thread Matt Hanson
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 22:45:06 -0800 (PST)
From: Matt Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem on 50ct Error code

Jürgen...  I had the AC plug in my 50CT fail just a few weeks back.  I
wonder if you're having the same problem.  

I pluged in the AC cord without the battery inserted, and the system
started to boot, but then suddenly shut down.  I looked into the Libby's AC
socket, and found that I could move one of the metal connectors.  I took
the system apart, and found that the plastic socket had broken into 2
pieces.  I just haven't gotten around to epoxying the two halves back
together.

I wonder if what you're seeing is the same broken AC connector that
sometimes makes a connection with the power cord, and sometimes doesn't. 
The batteries then sometimes getting charged, and then going dead and
causing the blinking LEDs??

Matt


--- Jürgen Schöll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 18:33:52 +0100
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_Sch=F6ll?=)
 Subject: Charging problem on 50ct Error code
 
 
 Hello folks, maybe someone can help me.
 Yesterday my beloved libretto suddenly crashed. 
 Everything went dark, the battery led was dark, only the DC-IN led
 flashes. 
 The libretto was connected with the AC adapter to the wall socket, a 2600
 mh battery was in the libretto. 
 The led flashes an error code - I suppose: After 2 seconds off at the
 start, there are 4 short flashes, then 
 comes 1 long flash (1 second) und then follow 3 short flashes. Then again
 2 seconds dark, 4 short flashes and so on.
 It looks like  1 000. Is this a binary signal? What is the meaning?
 The AC- adapter seems to be ok. It gives 15,08 V and I can use the
 libretto with the small batteries (1300 hm).
 The charging of this small batteries is ok. I can use the libretto
 without any battery, only withe the AC-adapter. 
 I tried a totally new battery (2600 mh), all went dark, I can't charge
 it. I tried a small older battery, everything seemd to be ok. 
 Today morning I retried an older 2600 mh battery, which caused yesterday
 the same faults. 
 Now the charging led lights orange, everything seems allright. 
 When I insert another older battery, which produced the evening before
 the above mentioned faults, everything went dark, only the error code
 flashes.
 When I insert the new uncharged battery (2600 mh) nothing goes, the DC-in
 led flashes the error code. 
 When I unplug the libretto, replug ist and then insert an 1300 mh battery
 everything goes.
 The batteries, which work, have a voltage of 12,5 V at the most outward
 contacts and 11,97 V between 
 contact 1 and 3. The batteries, that don't work have slightly different
 voltages: 12,53 most outward, 12,03 between contact 1 and 3.
 I don't think that matters.
 I have no idea, what is wrong.
 The contacts of the batteries are ok. Not all 2600 mh batteries are
 broken. The AC-adapter charges (but only small batteries).
 
 Cheers
 
 Jürgen





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Re: [LIB] Charging problem on 50ct Error code

2005-02-09 Thread Jürgen Schöll
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 08:41:16 +0100
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_Sch=F6ll?=)
Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem on 50ct Error code
Thank you for answering, Matt
I tested the plug; it's ok. I also tested the socket; it's ok too.
The status is now, that 3 batteries (all are older ones, two 1300 mh and one 
2600 mh) work. The libretto works fine,
when with these batteries in or out.
It crashes immediately and the damned error code appears, when I insert the 
newer 2600 mh batteries and the libretto is plugged in.
When the libretto is  not plugged to the AC adapter and I insert the above 
mentioned batteries it is not startable. Everything stays dark.
When I plug in and try to charge the error code   1 000 comes.
Is this the error code indicating bafterie failure? Or indicates it, that 
something ist wrong with the charging unit
in the libretto? But I can charge the other batteries!

At the moment I think, that the unprobable has happend: 2 batteries crashed 
at the same moment, one old, one totally new.

I would like to believe this, but is there anyone, who could confirm this by 
translating the error code?

Jürgen
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To: Libretto libretto@basiclink.com
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem on 50ct Error code


Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 22:45:06 -0800 (PST)
From: Matt Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LIB] Charging problem on 50ct Error code
Jürgen...  I had the AC plug in my 50CT fail just a few weeks back.  I
wonder if you're having the same problem.
I pluged in the AC cord without the battery inserted, and the system
started to boot, but then suddenly shut down.  I looked into the Libby's 
AC
socket, and found that I could move one of the metal connectors.  I took
the system apart, and found that the plastic socket had broken into 2
pieces.  I just haven't gotten around to epoxying the two halves back
together.

I wonder if what you're seeing is the same broken AC connector that
sometimes makes a connection with the power cord, and sometimes doesn't.
The batteries then sometimes getting charged, and then going dead and
causing the blinking LEDs??
Matt
--- Jürgen Schöll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 18:33:52 +0100
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (=?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen_Sch=F6ll?=)
Subject: Charging problem on 50ct Error code
Hello folks, maybe someone can help me.
Yesterday my beloved libretto suddenly crashed.
Everything went dark, the battery led was dark, only the DC-IN led
flashes.
The libretto was connected with the AC adapter to the wall socket, a 2600
mh battery was in the libretto.
The led flashes an error code - I suppose: After 2 seconds off at the
start, there are 4 short flashes, then
comes 1 long flash (1 second) und then follow 3 short flashes. Then again
2 seconds dark, 4 short flashes and so on.
It looks like  1 000. Is this a binary signal? What is the meaning?
The AC- adapter seems to be ok. It gives 15,08 V and I can use the
libretto with the small batteries (1300 hm).
The charging of this small batteries is ok. I can use the libretto
without any battery, only withe the AC-adapter.
I tried a totally new battery (2600 mh), all went dark, I can't charge
it. I tried a small older battery, everything seemd to be ok.
Today morning I retried an older 2600 mh battery, which caused yesterday
the same faults.
Now the charging led lights orange, everything seems allright.
When I insert another older battery, which produced the evening before
the above mentioned faults, everything went dark, only the error code
flashes.
When I insert the new uncharged battery (2600 mh) nothing goes, the DC-in
led flashes the error code.
When I unplug the libretto, replug ist and then insert an 1300 mh battery
everything goes.
The batteries, which work, have a voltage of 12,5 V at the most outward
contacts and 11,97 V between
contact 1 and 3. The batteries, that don't work have slightly different
voltages: 12,53 most outward, 12,03 between contact 1 and 3.
I don't think that matters.
I have no idea, what is wrong.
The contacts of the batteries are ok. Not all 2600 mh batteries are
broken. The AC-adapter charges (but only small batteries).
Cheers
Jürgen


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