Re: [PATCH RESEND v3 8/8] libvirt.spec: drop no longer required build dependencies

2021-05-26 Thread Andrea Bolognani
On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 10:19:28PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 11:34 AM Andrea Bolognani  wrote:
> > On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 05:06:41PM +0200, Michal Prívozník wrote:
> > > Wasn't the whole idea to drop dependencies?
> >
> > The point was to drop **build** dependencies, specifically
> > problematic ones such as ZFS. When it comes to runtime dependencies,
> > our RPMs generally try to be as featureful as possible, so adding a
> > dependency on scrub is the right thing to do IMO.
>
> Why is ZFS problematic? The zfs-fuse package is totally fine for us to
> depend on...

I'm not too familiar with the ZFS situation in Fedora / RHEL, but at
least in Debian we're patching meson.build specifically to enable ZFS
support without needing a ZFS implementation available at build time.

In general, using the build time availability of programs to guess
whether features should be enabled is a good, user-friendly behavior,
but we shouldn't second-guess the information provided by the user:
if they passed -Dstorage_zfs=enabled to Meson, then we should enable
ZFS support whether or not ZFS happens to be currently installed.

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Andrea Bolognani / Red Hat / Virtualization




Re: [PATCH RESEND v3 8/8] libvirt.spec: drop no longer required build dependencies

2021-05-25 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 11:34 AM Andrea Bolognani  wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 05:06:41PM +0200, Michal Prívozník wrote:
> > On 5/25/21 12:00 PM, Andrea Bolognani wrote:
> > > On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 10:00:47AM +0200, Pavel Hrdina wrote:
> > >> -# For storage wiping with different algorithms
> > >> -BuildRequires: scrub
> > >
> > > Turns out we're actually missing the runtime dependency on scrub! Can
> > > you please take care of addressing that issue in a separate patch?
> >
> > Are we? scrub is needed if and only if you want to pass a special
> > algorithm to virStorageVolWipePattern(). Does that justify a runtime
> > dependency? We fail gracefully if scrub isn't installed. We aren't even
> > requiring qemu binary for daemon-driver-qemu package.
> >
> > Wasn't the whole idea to drop dependencies?
>
> The point was to drop **build** dependencies, specifically
> problematic ones such as ZFS. When it comes to runtime dependencies,
> our RPMs generally try to be as featureful as possible, so adding a
> dependency on scrub is the right thing to do IMO.
>

Why is ZFS problematic? The zfs-fuse package is totally fine for us to
depend on...


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Re: [PATCH RESEND v3 8/8] libvirt.spec: drop no longer required build dependencies

2021-05-25 Thread Andrea Bolognani
On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 05:06:41PM +0200, Michal Prívozník wrote:
> On 5/25/21 12:00 PM, Andrea Bolognani wrote:
> > On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 10:00:47AM +0200, Pavel Hrdina wrote:
> >> -# For storage wiping with different algorithms
> >> -BuildRequires: scrub
> >
> > Turns out we're actually missing the runtime dependency on scrub! Can
> > you please take care of addressing that issue in a separate patch?
>
> Are we? scrub is needed if and only if you want to pass a special
> algorithm to virStorageVolWipePattern(). Does that justify a runtime
> dependency? We fail gracefully if scrub isn't installed. We aren't even
> requiring qemu binary for daemon-driver-qemu package.
>
> Wasn't the whole idea to drop dependencies?

The point was to drop **build** dependencies, specifically
problematic ones such as ZFS. When it comes to runtime dependencies,
our RPMs generally try to be as featureful as possible, so adding a
dependency on scrub is the right thing to do IMO.

-- 
Andrea Bolognani / Red Hat / Virtualization




Re: [PATCH RESEND v3 8/8] libvirt.spec: drop no longer required build dependencies

2021-05-25 Thread Michal Prívozník
On 5/25/21 12:00 PM, Andrea Bolognani wrote:
> On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 10:00:47AM +0200, Pavel Hrdina wrote:
>> -# For mount/umount in FS driver
>> -BuildRequires: util-linux
> 
> This BuildRequires is duplicated, so please drop the other instance
> as well.
> 
>> -# For storage wiping with different algorithms
>> -BuildRequires: scrub
> 
> Turns out we're actually missing the runtime dependency on scrub! Can
> you please take care of addressing that issue in a separate patch?

Are we? scrub is needed if and only if you want to pass a special
algorithm to virStorageVolWipePattern(). Does that justify a runtime
dependency? We fail gracefully if scrub isn't installed. We aren't even
requiring qemu binary for daemon-driver-qemu package.

Wasn't the whole idea to drop dependencies?

Michal



Re: [PATCH RESEND v3 8/8] libvirt.spec: drop no longer required build dependencies

2021-05-25 Thread Andrea Bolognani
On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 10:00:47AM +0200, Pavel Hrdina wrote:
> -# For mount/umount in FS driver
> -BuildRequires: util-linux

This BuildRequires is duplicated, so please drop the other instance
as well.

> -# For storage wiping with different algorithms
> -BuildRequires: scrub

Turns out we're actually missing the runtime dependency on scrub! Can
you please take care of addressing that issue in a separate patch?

With the second BuildRequires on util-linux removed,

  Reviewed-by: Andrea Bolognani 

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Andrea Bolognani / Red Hat / Virtualization