Re: [libvirt-users] nvme, spdk and host linux version

2019-12-12 Thread Michal Privoznik

On 12/12/19 3:51 PM, Mauricio Tavares wrote:

On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 5:40 AM Michal Privoznik  wrote:


On 11/27/19 4:12 PM, Mauricio Tavares wrote:

I have been following the patches on nvme support on the list and was
wondering: If I wanted to build a vm host to be on the bleeding edge
for nvme and spdk fun in libvirt, which linux distro --
fedora/ubuntu/centos/etc -- should I pick?



For NVMe itself it probably doesn't matter as it doesn't require any
special library. However, I'm not so sure about SPDK, esp. whether my
NVMe patches is what you really need? My patches enable the only missing
combination:

host kernel storage stack + qemu storage stack =  
This has disadvantage of latency added by both stacks, but allows
migration.

neither host kernel nor qemu storage stack =  (aka PCI assignment)
This offers near bare metal latencies, but prohibits migration.

qemu storage stack only = 
This is what my patches implement and should combine the above two:
small latencies and ability to migrate.


   That is actually my question: is handing the hard drive through
PCI assignment faster or slowe than disk type='nvme'?


According to:

https://www.linux-kvm.org/images/4/4c/Userspace_NVMe_driver_in_QEMU_-_Fam_Zheng.pdf 
(slide 25)


the fastest is the host, followed by PCI assignment (in qemu it's called 
VFIO), then disk type='nvme' and the last one is disk type='block' with 
/dev/nvme0 (referred to as linux-aio).


Michal

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Re: [libvirt-users] nvme, spdk and host linux version

2019-12-12 Thread Mauricio Tavares
On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 5:40 AM Michal Privoznik  wrote:
>
> On 11/27/19 4:12 PM, Mauricio Tavares wrote:
> > I have been following the patches on nvme support on the list and was
> > wondering: If I wanted to build a vm host to be on the bleeding edge
> > for nvme and spdk fun in libvirt, which linux distro --
> > fedora/ubuntu/centos/etc -- should I pick?
> >
>
> For NVMe itself it probably doesn't matter as it doesn't require any
> special library. However, I'm not so sure about SPDK, esp. whether my
> NVMe patches is what you really need? My patches enable the only missing
> combination:
>
> host kernel storage stack + qemu storage stack =  
>This has disadvantage of latency added by both stacks, but allows
> migration.
>
> neither host kernel nor qemu storage stack =  (aka PCI assignment)
>This offers near bare metal latencies, but prohibits migration.
>
> qemu storage stack only = 
>This is what my patches implement and should combine the above two:
> small latencies and ability to migrate.
>
  That is actually my question: is handing the hard drive through
PCI assignment faster or slowe than disk type='nvme'?

>
> Michal
>


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Re: [libvirt-users] nvme, spdk and host linux version

2019-12-12 Thread Michal Privoznik

On 11/27/19 4:12 PM, Mauricio Tavares wrote:

I have been following the patches on nvme support on the list and was
wondering: If I wanted to build a vm host to be on the bleeding edge
for nvme and spdk fun in libvirt, which linux distro --
fedora/ubuntu/centos/etc -- should I pick?



For NVMe itself it probably doesn't matter as it doesn't require any 
special library. However, I'm not so sure about SPDK, esp. whether my 
NVMe patches is what you really need? My patches enable the only missing 
combination:


host kernel storage stack + qemu storage stack =  
  This has disadvantage of latency added by both stacks, but allows 
migration.


neither host kernel nor qemu storage stack =  (aka PCI assignment)
  This offers near bare metal latencies, but prohibits migration.

qemu storage stack only = 
  This is what my patches implement and should combine the above two: 
small latencies and ability to migrate.



Michal

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Re: [libvirt-users] nvme, spdk and host linux version

2019-12-11 Thread Ján Tomko

On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 06:42:40PM -0500, Cole Robinson wrote:

On 11/27/19 10:12 AM, Mauricio Tavares wrote:

I have been following the patches on nvme support on the list and was
wondering: If I wanted to build a vm host to be on the bleeding edge
for nvme and spdk fun in libvirt, which linux distro --
fedora/ubuntu/centos/etc -- should I pick?


IMO Fedora, most of libvirt is developed by @redhat people so there's
plenty of Fedora expertise around


Gentoo is also a popular choice among libvirt developers.

Jano



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Re: [libvirt-users] nvme, spdk and host linux version

2019-12-10 Thread Cole Robinson
On 11/27/19 10:12 AM, Mauricio Tavares wrote:
> I have been following the patches on nvme support on the list and was
> wondering: If I wanted to build a vm host to be on the bleeding edge
> for nvme and spdk fun in libvirt, which linux distro --
> fedora/ubuntu/centos/etc -- should I pick?

IMO Fedora, most of libvirt is developed by @redhat people so there's
plenty of Fedora expertise around

- Cole

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[libvirt-users] nvme, spdk and host linux version

2019-11-27 Thread Mauricio Tavares
I have been following the patches on nvme support on the list and was
wondering: If I wanted to build a vm host to be on the bleeding edge
for nvme and spdk fun in libvirt, which linux distro --
fedora/ubuntu/centos/etc -- should I pick?


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