Re: a test email (& dmarc) @admins

2021-08-16 Thread lejeczek




On 16/08/2021 09:35, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:

On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 09:38:50AM +0100, lejeczek wrote:

hi guys.
I sent email a while ago and I wonder, also having not received a single
reply, because I did not get that own email - is there are problem I'm
having here or DMARC(yahoo & others?) are not fixed in by this mailing list
- would an admin(anybody) know?

This mailing list (and all hosted on redhat.com) are seriously broken
when senders have strict DMARC settings. This hits everyone posting
from @yahoo.* addresses - mail still gets sent out by the list, but
a large number of receipients mail servers will throw it away due to
DMARC violation.  I've had tickets open with our mail provider for
a year & a half now but progress fixing it is painfully slow.

Regards,
Daniel
not all, which fact is most intriguing to me - as if there 
were no communication on some fundamental level and each 
mailman(s) admin(s) lived in a separate closet.
One such example where guys had it for very long (if not 
always) fixed in is freeIPA mailing list, but there is a few 
more I'm subscribed to "owned" by Redhat which work.


many thanks, L.



Re: a test email (& dmarc) @admins

2021-08-16 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 07:23:25PM +0100, lejeczek wrote:
> 
> 
> On 16/08/2021 09:35, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 09:38:50AM +0100, lejeczek wrote:
> > > hi guys.
> > > I sent email a while ago and I wonder, also having not received a single
> > > reply, because I did not get that own email - is there are problem I'm
> > > having here or DMARC(yahoo & others?) are not fixed in by this mailing 
> > > list
> > > - would an admin(anybody) know?
> > This mailing list (and all hosted on redhat.com) are seriously broken
> > when senders have strict DMARC settings. This hits everyone posting
> > from @yahoo.* addresses - mail still gets sent out by the list, but
> > a large number of receipients mail servers will throw it away due to
> > DMARC violation.  I've had tickets open with our mail provider for
> > a year & a half now but progress fixing it is painfully slow.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Daniel
> not all, which fact is most intriguing to me - as if there were no
> communication on some fundamental level and each mailman(s) admin(s) lived
> in a separate closet.
> One such example where guys had it for very long (if not always) fixed in is
> freeIPA mailing list, but there is a few more I'm subscribed to "owned" by
> Redhat which work.

The freeIPA mailing lists are hosted on fedoraproject.org, which is
handled by different mail infrastructure than redhat.com. NB the
problem isn't in mailman, it is the backend mail infra that is
causing the trouble.

Regards,
Daniel
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Re: a test email (& dmarc) @admins

2021-08-16 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 09:38:50AM +0100, lejeczek wrote:
> hi guys.
> I sent email a while ago and I wonder, also having not received a single
> reply, because I did not get that own email - is there are problem I'm
> having here or DMARC(yahoo & others?) are not fixed in by this mailing list
> - would an admin(anybody) know?

This mailing list (and all hosted on redhat.com) are seriously broken
when senders have strict DMARC settings. This hits everyone posting
from @yahoo.* addresses - mail still gets sent out by the list, but
a large number of receipients mail servers will throw it away due to
DMARC violation.  I've had tickets open with our mail provider for
a year & a half now but progress fixing it is painfully slow.

Regards,
Daniel
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a test email (& dmarc) @admins

2021-08-14 Thread lejeczek

hi guys.
I sent email a while ago and I wonder, also having not 
received a single reply, because I did not get that own 
email - is there are problem I'm having here or DMARC(yahoo 
& others?) are not fixed in by this mailing list - would an 
admin(anybody) know?


many thanks, L.