copyleft lite? - rev 3
Thanks for the feedback so far! By without fee I meant that copyright holder(s) were not imposing a fee; this was confusing and unnecessary so I removed it. I see what you meant meant about the rights not specifically granted are reserved being superfluous. I've removed it for now, but might add it back. Not sure whether the license is easier to understand with or without that. Nailing down the copyleft scope was the tricky bit. This doubled the length of the license terms. As soon as you start talking about what's inside the scope of copyleft, you also have to talk about what's outside the scope. I taken a stab at this but I think I could use some help with the wording, especially in the last paragraph. Here's the current revision: software program name. Copyright (c) year(s) copyright holder(s). All rights reserved. LICENSE AGREEMENT: This license agreement applies to the accompanying software, documentation, and related materials (software). This license also applies to derivative works. Permission to use, copy, and distribute this software is hereby granted, provided that the above copyright notice appear in all copies or substantial portions of the software; and that the above copyright notice, this permission notice, and the following disclaimers appear in the documentation and/or other materials provided with the software. When you distribute this software outside your organization, the source code must be made available to the recipients under these license terms, and/or under the terms of the GNU General Public License (GPL) as published by the Free Software Foundation. You may create derivative works by modifing this software; and/or by combining part or all of this software with other materials. Derivative works must be plainly marked as such, and must not be misrepresented as being the original software. When you distribute a derivative work based on the software, the source code for the entire derivative work must be made available under the terms of this license and/or the GPL. A work that does not itself contain any portion of the software is not considered a derivative work, even if it accesses services exposed by this software or a derivative work; even when it is stored or distributed on the same medium with software licensed under this agreement. Your rights under this license will terminate automatically if you fail to comply with the terms and conditions set forth herein. DISCLAIMER OF WARRANTY: THIS SOFTWARE AND THE ACCOMPANYING FILES ARE PROVIDED AS IS. NO WARRANTY OF FITNESS FOR ANY PARTICULAR PURPOSE IS OFFERED. ANY AND ALL WARRANTIES, WHETHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS OR CONTRIBUTING AUTHORS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE. The recipient must assume the entire risk of using this software. -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3
Re: copyleft lite?
These terms will make it not GPL compatible because the GPL is not identical to these terms. Maybe something like the source code (including any modifications) must be made available to the recipients under these terms or the terms of the GNU General Public License... --- Bruce Dodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying for a simple, easy-to-read license with some degree of copyleft. I hope it will be compatible with the GPL also. __ LICENSE AGREEMENT: When you distribute this software outside your organization, the source code (including any modifications) must be made available to the recipients under these license terms. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3
Re: copyleft lite?
Bruce Dodson wrote: disclaimers appear in supporting documentation. When you distribute this software outside your organization, the source code (including any modifications) must be made available to the recipients under these license terms. You have not defined the copyleft scope. That is, how much of the source code has to be made available? Only the source code put under this license (like MozPL), the source code that somehow belongs together (like LGPL), or everything that goes into the executable (like GPL). -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3
Re: copyleft lite?
Okay. I can add that or under GPL clause; it doesn't really make the license harder to understand, and it's worth it to ensure GPL compatibility. I will have to work on some simple explanation of what modifications means. Suggestions are welcome! I'm thinking if the resulting software ends up as one binary executable file (DLL / EXE / .so / whatever), the whole thing needs to be covered under the terms of this license (or the terms of the GPL, subject to its definition of what constitutes a modification). But I want the wording to be simple and not scary - I don't want the recipient to need to hire both a lawyer and a programmer to understand the license! software program name. Copyright (c) year(s) copyright holder(s). All rights reserved. LICENSE AGREEMENT: This is a license agreement and not an agreement for sale. All rights not specifically granted in this agreement are reserved to the copyright holder(s). Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software for any purpose and without fee is hereby granted, provided that the above copyright notice appear in all copies, and that the above copyright notice, this permission notice, and the following disclaimers appear in supporting documentation. When you distribute this software outside your organization, the source code (including any modifications) must be made available to the recipients under these license terms, or under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation. Your rights to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software will terminate automatically if you fail to comply with the terms and conditions set forth in this license agreement. DISCLAIMER OF WARRANTY: THIS SOFTWARE AND THE ACCOMPANYING FILES ARE PROVIDED AS IS. NO WARRANTY OF FITNESS FOR ANY PARTICULAR PURPOSE IS OFFERED. ANY AND ALL WARRANTIES, WHETHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS OR CONTRIBUTING AUTHORS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE. The recipient must assume the entire risk of using this software. - Original Message - From: Andy Tai [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bruce Dodson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 5:40 AM Subject: Re: copyleft lite? These terms will make it not GPL compatible because the GPL is not identical to these terms. Maybe something like the source code (including any modifications) must be made available to the recipients under these terms or the terms of the GNU General Public License... --- Bruce Dodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying for a simple, easy-to-read license with some degree of copyleft. I hope it will be compatible with the GPL also. __ LICENSE AGREEMENT: When you distribute this software outside your organization, the source code (including any modifications) must be made available to the recipients under these license terms. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3
Re: copyleft lite?
Seems to me that it is not GPL compatible. The GPL expressly prohibits combining with licenses that have more restrictive terms than the GPL. without fee is a restriction the GPL does not include. -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3
Re: copyleft lite?
Bruce Dodson wrote: All rights not specifically granted in this agreement are reserved to the copyright holder(s). That one line is superfluous. That is what the statute book says. Since it there in the statute book, this is how it will be, whether you say it or not. Your rights to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software will terminate automatically if you fail to comply with the terms and conditions set forth in this license agreement. Your rights under this license will terminate . will save a few words, and serve the purpose. DISCLAIMER OF WARRANTY: How about adding a clause to the effect that source code is available, and it is for the user you to verify whether the software meets his requirements? Definitely, in terms of product liability, the copyright holders of packages released under open source licences have a definite edge in this respect. I feel that this is one clause which ought to be included in the GPL also. Such a clause would be in conformance with, and indeed more relevant in light of open source business strategy of charging support and services rather that the initial down payments. Regards, Mahesh T. Pai. Want to sell your car? advertise on Yahoo Autos Classifieds. It's Free!! visit http://in.autos.yahoo.comm -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3
Re: copyleft lite?
Mahesh T Pai wrote: That one line is superfluous. That is what the statute book says. Since it there in the statute book, this is how it will be, whether you say it or not. IANAL, but isn't that true only until they change the statute book? In other words, isn't there something to be said for stating your intent even if it is superfluous, in case the statute book is changed? Randy Kramer -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3
copyleft lite?
I'm trying for a simple, easy-to-read license with some degree of copyleft. I hope it will be compatible with the GPL also. Please take a look at the following, and help me find any flaws. Thanks, Bruce __ software program name. Copyright (c) year(s) copyright holder(s). All rights reserved. LICENSE AGREEMENT: This is a license agreement and not an agreement for sale. All rights not specifically granted in this agreement are reserved to the copyright holder(s). Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software for any purpose and without fee is hereby granted, provided that the above copyright notice appear in all copies, and that the above copyright notice, this permission notice, and the following disclaimers appear in supporting documentation. When you distribute this software outside your organization, the source code (including any modifications) must be made available to the recipients under these license terms. Your rights to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software will terminate automatically if you fail to comply with the terms and conditions set forth in this license agreement. DISCLAIMER OF WARRANTY: THIS SOFTWARE AND THE ACCOMPANYING FILES ARE PROVIDED AS IS. NO WARRANTY OF FITNESS FOR ANY PARTICULAR PURPOSE IS OFFERED. ANY AND ALL WARRANTIES, WHETHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS OR CONTRIBUTING AUTHORS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE. The recipient must assume the entire risk of using this software. -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3
