Re: [Lift] Serious widget action

2010-03-10 Thread Timothy Perrett
Personally, I would say forget ExtJS, compared to Cappuccino its streets behind:

http://cappuccino.org/

Easily the most exciting UI framework out there right now 

Cheers, Tim

On 10 Mar 2010, at 03:45, aw wrote:

 It is time for me to add some serious widgets to my lift app.
 
 So far, I am most enamored by ExtJS.
 Another alternative could possibly be ZK.
 
 Does anybody have any experience with these frameworks?  Can you
 comment on why integrating them with Scala/Lift would be a bad idea
 (or not work)?
 
 I searched for some historical posts on ExtJS and discovered some
 threads about it's license and how it impacts inclusion in the lift
 framework.  Would a commercial license prohibit it from being a lift-
 widget submodule candidate?
 
 Does anybody have a better suggestion that you think can compete with
 ExtJS?
 
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Re: [Lift] Serious widget action

2010-03-10 Thread Indrajit Raychaudhuri
Most certainly, yes! Quite like what Anthony is looking for. But (a)
this is different from JSArtifacts implementation for ExtCore that we
talked about couple of times and (b) Cappuccino isn't license
compatible either (for the purpose of integration within Lift).

Anthony, fwiw, David did some stuff on this last year that could be of
some interest to you :) [1]

Cheers, Indrajit

[1] http://github.com/dpp/Frothy

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Timothy Perrett
timo...@getintheloop.eu wrote:
 Personally, I would say forget ExtJS, compared to Cappuccino its streets 
 behind:

 http://cappuccino.org/

 Easily the most exciting UI framework out there right now

 Cheers, Tim

 On 10 Mar 2010, at 03:45, aw wrote:

 It is time for me to add some serious widgets to my lift app.

 So far, I am most enamored by ExtJS.
 Another alternative could possibly be ZK.

 Does anybody have any experience with these frameworks?  Can you
 comment on why integrating them with Scala/Lift would be a bad idea
 (or not work)?

 I searched for some historical posts on ExtJS and discovered some
 threads about it's license and how it impacts inclusion in the lift
 framework.  Would a commercial license prohibit it from being a lift-
 widget submodule candidate?

 Does anybody have a better suggestion that you think can compete with
 ExtJS?

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[Lift] Serious widget action

2010-03-09 Thread aw
It is time for me to add some serious widgets to my lift app.

So far, I am most enamored by ExtJS.
Another alternative could possibly be ZK.

Does anybody have any experience with these frameworks?  Can you
comment on why integrating them with Scala/Lift would be a bad idea
(or not work)?

I searched for some historical posts on ExtJS and discovered some
threads about it's license and how it impacts inclusion in the lift
framework.  Would a commercial license prohibit it from being a lift-
widget submodule candidate?

Does anybody have a better suggestion that you think can compete with
ExtJS?

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Re: [Lift] Serious widget action

2010-03-09 Thread Jim Barrows
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 8:45 PM, aw anth...@whitford.com wrote:

 It is time for me to add some serious widgets to my lift app.

 So far, I am most enamored by ExtJS.
 Another alternative could possibly be ZK.

 Does anybody have any experience with these frameworks?  Can you
 comment on why integrating them with Scala/Lift would be a bad idea
 (or not work)?

 I searched for some historical posts on ExtJS and discovered some
 threads about it's license and how it impacts inclusion in the lift
 framework.  Would a commercial license prohibit it from being a lift-
 widget submodule candidate?

 Does anybody have a better suggestion that you think can compete with
 ExtJS?


I'm using ExtJS in anger at 0rk.  3.1.1 is nice.  3.0.0 is weird.  Some odd
bugs being reported.  We're also getting some weird interactions with some
other js libraries ( I won't mention it, it's not available anymore, and if
it was it just leave you scarred) and CSS.  However, that's the other
libraries fault more then ExtJS's.

If you want something that looks and feels as close to a desktop app as you
can get.. ExtJS can do the job well.  With Lift providing the JSON, it would
be hard to go wrong.  That said.. ExtJS is not an easy beast to learn.  It's
even worse to try and L10N it easily.  I would not try and use just pieces
of it, it's really not designed to do that.  It seems to me to be an all or
nothing approach.  That's not say you can't use it piecemeal, I think you
lose a lot of flexibility (especially in layout) that way.

I wouldn't use it if left to my own devices though, unless I had a
requirement for a desktop app on the web.  It's serious overkill.


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